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			<title>i did it!</title>
			<link>http://www.sarna.net/forums/showflat.php?Number=166952</link>
			<description>i can't take it anmore. the owner of neveron has botched htis game to an extent where despite anyones best wishes, the game is destroyed. he claims there is an influx of new people, there is not, he claims he works on this game to improve it, he does not. he decided to ban me from neverons facebook page because he didn't like what i had to say. peace out shadowmaster, hope you enjoy neveron when you are the last person with any empires left and maybe you can war yourself. i just abandoned every empire i own, you can go ahead and call it good on the 6 or so dp i still had, this game is a waste of internet.

i still plan on coming to sarna for a good laugh. -- KJI_3x6</description>
			<pubDate>05/16/13 03:14 PM</pubDate>
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			<title>[off topic, "that other game"] 'brilliant' way to reduce database size - and playerbase as well</title>
			<link>http://www.sarna.net/forums/showflat.php?Number=166917</link>
			<description>"Inactive Empire Deletion Notice"

http://www.invasion3042.com/forums/viewtopic.php?f=2&amp;t=9186

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 Post subject: Inactive Empire Deletion Notice
PostPosted: Sun Apr 21, 2013 5:06 am 
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Inactive Empires will be deleted Wed the 24th. If you want to save your empire, become active.





Apparently 'Order 532 / Order 129' got 'executed' the 24th of April as announced three days earlier at the 21st of April.

One day later (25th of April) the 'fallout' hits their forums:


"So... Yeah how bout that?"

http://www.invasion3042.com/forums/viewtopic.php?f=4&amp;t=9190


full quote of the entire thread (so far), to prevent it from getting wiped into "that other game"'s forums bit bucket once their censors / moderators / admins wake up:  
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Invasion3042.com
Invasion3042 Forums
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	It is currently Fri Apr 26, 2013 1:04 pm

Board index » General F -- NeverSayNever</description>
			<pubDate>04/26/13 07:31 AM</pubDate>
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			<title>ShadowMasterCM</title>
			<link>http://www.sarna.net/forums/showflat.php?Number=166852</link>
			<description>I wrote a big,long drawn out post before that but this lovely website ate it and threw me an empty page. So ill quickly resummerize. Its been about a year of you not working with the players but asking for our help and im sure you have noticed its not gunna work out too well. So lets work 2gethor we all want to fix neveron and it needs money to get a coder to do so(regardless of who), alot of us players that WOULD throw money at you aren't because youve proven to go agiasnt your word. Lets bridge the gap somewhere in the middle. You claim morale is to hard to add in to the amount of emps owed at the momment and I can buy that. But what i cant buy is that a monthly drawing of 1 player(even though its nearly a year late) is that hard to take 30minutes out of your month to do. So i suggest for step 1 you take the 1-4 hours to catch up on backloggs of that to actually give us some trust that your willing to work with the players. Step 2 you pick a weekend that you can take off from your jo -- Fern</description>
			<pubDate>03/31/13 06:07 PM</pubDate>
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			<title>Glory Days of Neveron: How to Implement?</title>
			<link>http://www.sarna.net/forums/showflat.php?Number=166757</link>
			<description>never claimed my vision of nev was perfect. I know alot of it would kill the fun for some that find it funny to drop a modded mech that was equal to a lance of assaults on a poor level 2 person that just dped a mech to stop another empire owned by the dropper and won the battle. I know it would destroy peoples fun of dropping multiple empires and/or high level empires on someone that is actually winning against their other empire.

I said parts of you glory vision isnt fun unless you are the one performing it on others. The hd only zones in the middle of a level 10 where the lower lw empires keep their units hidden, as well as spread out over the face of nev makes it impossible for a person that isnt set up like that hard to even fight back. Not fun having to deal with this. You want fun, but your fun seems to be one sided.
A majority of the things I suggested to make it fun for all instead of an 'elite' few. It would destroy that feeling of the power rush.

I admit it isnt the perfect -- ghostrider</description>
			<pubDate>03/13/13 10:30 AM</pubDate>
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			<title> Moderation, FAQs, etc: A discussion</title>
			<link>http://www.sarna.net/forums/showflat.php?Number=166745</link>
			<description>I'm just going to go ahead and refer you to Mr. Cray at this point, ghostrider. Because's that's an unprovoked, unwarranted personal attack. Hopefully it's number 3 but I'm never quite so lucky. -- Katrar</description>
			<pubDate>03/12/13 06:40 PM</pubDate>
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			<title>SHADOWMASTER Make a Comprehensive Neveron FAQ</title>
			<link>http://www.sarna.net/forums/showflat.php?Number=166694</link>
			<description>There has been much discussion today on the concept of of making a comprehensive all in one place neveron FAQ or wikipedia, and I would like to address this topic in a more structured format. In this discussion it was pointed out that the help features of neveron for new players is greatly lacking. It was also pointed out that player assistance in chat is  useful but limited. Although there are limitations that only actual experience with the game can teach you, I believe that a comprehensive guide/wiki/FAQ on neveron is perfectly achievable for our current admin SHADOWMASTER. Allow me to address each area of concern separately.

In this discussion our current admin, the man in charge, SHADOWMASTER contradicted himself heavily on a very important point. At one point SHADOWMASTER claimed that individual players as well as himself have posted various different guides on the forums that he stickyed in this comment:  i have done FAQ style posts on the fourms  and players just like you, ope -- Maghetti123</description>
			<pubDate>03/06/13 07:50 PM</pubDate>
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			<title>Changes</title>
			<link>http://www.sarna.net/forums/showflat.php?Number=166681</link>
			<description>The things I am going to speak about have most likely already been mentioned but Ive always found that in order to get something changed you have to repeat it more than once.

If Infantry is no longer in use in game then why must we research tech for infantry. Don't come with its a requirment for other tech. If its not in any kind of use then why not allow for us to bypass these techs. Seems like a waste of RP for beginners. 

Training Tech. Again no longer in use. I have personally researched up to lvl 6 before anyone told me that it did NOTHING. Again a way to waste RP. 

With these Two things I have wasted well over 100 RP. You vets may say this is just a small amount but I am a small, just starting out, empire. So these RP a precious.

I would like to SEE a list of TECH that DOES NOT work so I DO NOTwaste RP on them.

Another thing I would like to touch on.

When an Empire surrenders or CFs when you are taking a city. Shouldn't I still ahve the right to the salvage in the zone once -- Rowan</description>
			<pubDate>03/04/13 08:17 PM</pubDate>
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			<title>Craic?</title>
			<link>http://www.sarna.net/forums/showflat.php?Number=166654</link>
			<description>So what is the craic?

Kinda came back from my self-imposed fwar exile a few months back, and wtf has happened?

The noob faction has mail from the last nev-decade.

It seems that it's myself and maybe 4-5 other empires using the ffa - with the heat 'feature' a constant threat - the day changes and ammo goes boom.  I've been lwing against empires that clearly haven't been logged into in over a year.  I can leave wars and come back and finish them at my leisure, with nothing untoward happening.

The market's fubar.

It's like being at the end of time, watching all the stars slowly burn out to nothing, all light stretched out to nothingness, atoms stop moving and the universe dies leaving behind only the void.  Man, Randy couldn't have managed this.

But it's like an addiction, just like my smoking, it's slowly killing me but I keep at it.  That takes a lot of commitment.

It doesn't have to be that way though, just as they are e-cigs, there are other ways Nev can be...  Ways that involv -- Whalefsh</description>
			<pubDate>03/01/13 05:10 PM</pubDate>
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			<title>LW 10 for sale</title>
			<link>http://www.sarna.net/forums/showflat.php?Number=166650</link>
			<description>old post skills are toast but mechs still shine

mechs include:
STR-WIE-1 -2/-2
STR-WIE-1 -2/-2
STR-WIE-1 -1/-1
PIL-SLY01 0/-1
VX-HOC02 -1/-1
HGN-732-2/-3
PLD-SLY02 -4/-3
HGN-732 -1/-2
HGN-732 -2/-1
MAD-4A 1/-2
MAD-4A 0/-2
MAD-4A-1/-2
MAD-4A -1/-2
MAD-4A -1/-2
MAD-4A 0/-1
MAD-4A -1/-1
MAD-4A -2/-1
MAD-4A 0/-1
MAD-4A -1/-1
MAD-4A -1/-1
HGN-732 2/2
GRF-DEST 0/-1
MAD-4A 0/0
MAD-4A 0/0
MAD-4A 1/0
GRF-DEST -1/0
GRF-DEST 0/0
MAD-4A 2/0
MAD-4A 5/1
MAD-4A 1/2
SHG-2E -1/0
MAD-4A 2/2
ON1-LW -1/-1
ON1-LW 0/0
ON1-LW 1/1
ON1-LW -1/1

2nd all jump mech batt

also 10,8,6,4 for sale -- GwB</description>
			<pubDate>03/01/13 06:36 AM</pubDate>
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			<title>Undocumented new feature? - 0/0 skill cap for (unassigned?) soldiers introduced?</title>
			<link>http://www.sarna.net/forums/showflat.php?Number=166637</link>
			<description>I just checked some of my unassigned vehicle soldiers and - surprise, surprise - several of them, which used t be -driver and or -gunner only a few days real time ago, appear to be capped / artificially 'trimmed' down (via new code or admin intervention?) to 0/0. - Undocumented new feature?


Anyone else encountered something similar recently? -- NeverSayNever</description>
			<pubDate>02/28/13 01:18 PM</pubDate>
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			<title>Infantry, Barriers to entry, and Hope for Neveron</title>
			<link>http://www.sarna.net/forums/showflat.php?Number=166623</link>
			<description>Infantry was done away with because it was broken (or so I hear, I'm a noob).  But as I continue to play the game I feel that infantry needs to be present.  Research takes a very long time (as it should).  As a result a new empire is completely unable to produce any unit for war without reaching deep into the tech tree.  So deep I feel that most new players will give up for they ever reach that point.  This in turn will wreck havoc in the markets as noobs spend their money buying mechs instead of resources for production.  I feel that bringing infantry back (with some changes) is critical to ensuring Neveron's continued existence as infantry's existence is critical to retaining new players. -- Adabi</description>
			<pubDate>02/26/13 08:44 AM</pubDate>
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			<title>extreme sugestion</title>
			<link>http://www.sarna.net/forums/showflat.php?Number=166540</link>
			<description>Hi SM, here is a sugestion for trying to ensure neveron future.

I know you are a quite bushy man and that you don't have enough time for coding everything.

Here is my sugestion: make the code public, or pieces of it, so neveron community can help you in coding it (if they still have interest).

I know its a extreme measure but I think it could help. -- rantamplan</description>
			<pubDate>02/09/13 03:51 AM</pubDate>
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			<title>war timers and other things</title>
			<link>http://www.sarna.net/forums/showflat.php?Number=166480</link>
			<description>Is there any sort of eta on when war timers will be fixed?

I know it is even more difficult to fix, but is there any sort of time frame for having the day change sortened? Such as having some of the auto run programs perform their functions at like the in the middle of a nev day instead of midnight?
What is going to happen to peoples whose empires got screwed over because a war never timed out? Will abusers of this be punished, or will things continue as they have in the past?

Will you end those wars that should have ended last year manually? -- ghostrider</description>
			<pubDate>01/16/13 06:39 PM</pubDate>
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			<title>Mass Swap Crew Button</title>
			<link>http://www.sarna.net/forums/showflat.php?Number=166476</link>
			<description>I don't know what it would take, or how hard it would be, but I would really like some sort of a 'Swap All Swapable Crews" button.  Saves the time of looking through the hundreds of new tanks that are training down.  Just an idea. -- TGA</description>
			<pubDate>01/07/13 10:28 AM</pubDate>
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			<title>I had an opinion</title>
			<link>http://www.sarna.net/forums/showflat.php?Number=166467</link>
			<description>Then I remembered it was Neveron. -- Mithrander</description>
			<pubDate>12/31/12 01:45 AM</pubDate>
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			<title>How about accelerated research as mpogd.com voting related bonus?</title>
			<link>http://www.sarna.net/forums/showflat.php?Number=166448</link>
			<description>http://www.mpogd.com/

current rankings at mpogd.com:
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Game of the Month Poll

1. 	E-Sim 	9.40% E-Sim
2. 	Jockstocks 	8.68%
3. 	Threshold 	8.19%
4. 	WarOnline.Net 	7.07%
5. 	Neveron 	7.03%
6. 	Chain of Command 	6.62%
7. 	Invasion 3042 	5.37%
8. 	Pockie Ninja II Social 	5.01%
9. 	Tycoon Online 	5.01%
10. 	Space Merchant Realms 	4.43%





If Neveron manages to stay ranked top 2 - 5 in December 2012 then ShadowMaster could simply turn on accelerated research for a week real time, e.g at the beginning of January 2013.


Simple solution, no extra coding required - everyone gets rewarded for voting for Neveron at mpogd.com - plus the game might attract a few more new players / donators as well.


Just some food for thought ...

Have a nice day / night. -- NeverSayNever</description>
			<pubDate>12/24/12 11:22 AM</pubDate>
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			<title>Dear Nev-Santa [= ShadowMaster] ...</title>
			<link>http://www.sarna.net/forums/showflat.php?Number=166447</link>
			<description>... all I would like to suggest for Nev-Christmas 2012 is:

accelerated research during the holidays.



No complex extra coding required, no time consuming live raffle needed - everyone gets something.


Just some food for thought ...

Have a nice day / night - and: "Merry Christmas!" -- NeverSayNever</description>
			<pubDate>12/24/12 11:03 AM</pubDate>
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			<title>"Current # of Battles: 1  Largest Ongoing Battle: 318 BV"</title>
			<link>http://www.sarna.net/forums/showflat.php?Number=166446</link>
			<description>I've seem the following line:


"Current # of Battles: 1  Largest Ongoing Battle: 318 BV"

way too often already.



Simply an extremely common battle size - or some kind of never ending / not properly resolving (default / place holder?) battle log entry?


Could this be some kind of 'relic' database / log entry which prevents other parts of the battle / war resolution related code (logs) from resolving battles / wars properly?

Corrupted / Damaged log-file entry / database table entry which needs to get fixed / cleaned up manually via admin intervention? -- NeverSayNever</description>
			<pubDate>12/24/12 10:49 AM</pubDate>
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			<title>Neveron, default IRC browser client (via link at main login-page) ...</title>
			<link>http://www.sarna.net/forums/showflat.php?Number=166444</link>
			<description>...  returns connection error?

Anyone else experiencing the same or similar IRC connection issues? -- NeverSayNever</description>
			<pubDate>12/24/12 10:25 AM</pubDate>
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			<title>irongalaxy.com is back</title>
			<link>http://www.sarna.net/forums/showflat.php?Number=166438</link>
			<description>Just a note that after a long hiatus www.irongalaxy.com is back and functional. It's a gaming blog oriented to our under-served and under-appreciated cbt/mecha/strategy genre. There will be posts relevant to neveron in the future, so feel free to stop by once in a while. -- Katrar</description>
			<pubDate>12/19/12 09:22 AM</pubDate>
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