Toscotto
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Reged: 02/02/06
Posts: 530
Loc: Tacoma WA
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Mine for sale...
#124988 - 02/04/06 08:21 PM (66.43.216.131)
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So my girlfriend just sold a mine yesterday from a level 0 and was rubbing it in my face about how much money she would get, and ended up getting only 7 or 8 million out of almost 100 million. What gives?
not that I am to broken up with it, she deserves it! 
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CaBhaal
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Reged: 10/11/04
Posts: 599
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Re: Mine for sale...
[Re: Toscotto]
#124992 - 02/04/06 08:35 PM (24.32.87.123)
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You are limited by level on how much cash you can get from sales. The higher the level, the more cash you can get from selling stuff.
Finance tab -> History shows how much you can get.
CaB
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Toscotto
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Reged: 02/02/06
Posts: 530
Loc: Tacoma WA
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Re: Mine for sale...
[Re: CaBhaal]
#124999 - 02/05/06 01:11 AM (209.152.87.179)
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This now officially sucks!
HA! The total from selling the mine is a big fat 0 ( as far as my limited intellect allows me to comprehend)!
Lesson learned: don't sell a mine at low level. don't commission one either (because someone will take it). hmmmm catch 22 anyone?
WTF?
Let me get this straight- A Small empire spends its limited funds to expand by claiming land (which may or may not be a good idea, but this game is supposed to have VARIETY). It Gets lucky and finds a mine. Gets lucky again by selling it. Gets screwed because of something called market caps.
We did a little looking. Finding this rather maddening game's rules is like playing "night-time blindfolded look for the nano needle in the arcology sized haystack"! come on!
I found references to it in the forum. It should/could be elsewhere, but where to look? The noob is really showing through now!!
Why are there such constraints on small empires trying to grow, and not on huge self perpetuating money making machines?
Where does one FIND the rule (or whatever it is called) that talks about stuff like this.
Don't say look in the help section. It sucks.
Don't say read the updates. There are literally YEARS of them. "find"ing your way through them is impossible. Why not get rid of the no longer applicable ones. Sorry I was using too much Common sense. I guess people should intuitively know where and when to look. argghh!
Don't say you should have known! Dumb Noob. Everyone was a noob once, with less than all needed workinh knowledge. Your loss if you have forgotton it. Looks like the creators have. This is like a crazed tinker that can't stop tinkering. If does not work SCRAP it. If it works stop screwing it up!
This is Not meant to be an easy game, but Come On. It is a damn Labyrinth with glass walls in the middle of the frickn' trail and pitfalls in the portapottys!
This is a war-game. I love WARgames. I want to WAR. Not skirmish with 2 or 3 battalions within the next month if I am lucky.
How LONG without DP or help from an outside source does one (1) lvl 0 or 1 empire save and wait and buy and build and save and wait and train and save and wait and blah blah blah blah.. before it can war and have a good go at it? NO really I would LIKE an answer! Please do not say "war with the same level" Then no one would Ever get to grow except like the blob (watch it and you will see).
Kitfox has a really cool an informative thread on warring at low levels. Nice if you start with 300 mil How long did that take to build? I guess patience is part of the game. Can someone direct me to a faster paced one? The thread is a Great narrative, and a good read. Hats off to you. Still it is not an accurate portrayal of how starting Completely from scratch takes longer than Fourever!
Did I hear a grumble from someone who has played for 4 years? Eat it! does that type of long term fantasy world really make your day? time for therapy, hope you empire can afford it. I bet you saw the word I misspelled too tsk tsk. Mission accomplished.
What? Did you also say that should have more than one empire, and wait awhile to let things build? Oh yeah that's right in order to make out well I need to absorb/leech off of my other empires.
DUH!
If the game was more streamlined (faster money, faster war, more high BV units, phase out of small POS units, a better help/support system (aka:UPDATE THINGS), less bells and whistles being added on and stick to what works) then the need for all these extra empires would never have happened. But it continues. If an empire could make it on its own, there would be no need for multiple Anything. Except those people that need a safety net and are scared of losing their nice neat electronic crack machine, and so have many empires.
Hmmm....
With a promo you get 15 mill to start with. IF you buy something even close to being good to defend yourself (and train them) with it is mostly gone. How long does it take to research building types? Too Long. Everyone needs them, why do they take so long? It is Just a bigger building for cripes sake! Do you research them now or later? If not now, then don't worry about making money with commercial buildings, because they are all 25cf! Even moral income is nothing compared to the small empire subsidy.
Why is that (the subsidy) even needed anyway? If the game was truly balanced it would not be needed, because an empire could be self sufficient from the start after the sign up and/or promo bonuses.
And why can't we sell technology. "hey I would like to build that cool Zippo like you can, how’s about I BUY THE BLUEPRINTS from you?" wow, that is such a stupid idea it might be nice to have.
(sliding scale Assets increase the cost to purchase technologies, no transferal of techs between faction mates/or owned empires.
Why not do research like the way you build a building now. i.e.: Pay for the tooling, but then pay for the RESEARCH work that shows how hard those little buggars are working at your request as emperor for a new toy.
WHAT A RANT!!
I take it back I love this game
It just needs some fix’n and creators that listen. IF you do and I do not see it. Then I appolo jizz, for not seeing it, not for talking about it.
Now that I finishm this should have been posted elsewhere. Oh well. Tough. 
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Toontje
Colonel
Reged: 01/18/04
Posts: 2578
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Re: Mine for sale...
[Re: Toscotto]
#125007 - 02/05/06 06:06 AM (84.24.165.226)
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That was the reason mazer quit eventually.. But there is logic to it, as soon as you hit lvl 3-4 you don't wanta lvl 0 having instantly more funds than you, sa it upsets your defenses by making them evaporate in the face of the medium/heavy bought with the funds.
If you have a nice combustible mine like that, contact someone in chat, then arrange a transfer (either by attack or by using the sales method.)
If you already are in a faction, you can have the money be sent to your FL, who will slowly feed it into your empire.
HOWEVER, as a lvl 0, you cannot get into a faction. Just hold off selling the mine, get up to lvl 1 (which is doable in a day ar 2, 3). Get into a faction (not that hard.), ask around in the faction if someone needs it (better make friends in your faction, as they will do you favours back). Likely someone does need it. If they are nice, the will send the faction leader funds to be sent to you.
The chances of the mine disappearing while you are leveling up are negligable.
In short: get to lvl 1, join a faction, and sell through chat (preferentially in said faction).
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Rather to blow up, then.
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Toscotto
Lieutenant
Reged: 02/02/06
Posts: 530
Loc: Tacoma WA
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Re: Mine for sale...
[Re: Toontje]
#125027 - 02/05/06 12:07 PM (66.43.216.157)
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I understand it is a way to make the game progress in a more controlled fasion.
Just frustrating that's all, but all is peachy in neveron.
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cbtgod
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Reged: 12/14/05
Posts: 1813
Loc: IN A BOX UNDER A HOUSE
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Re: Mine for sale...
[Re: Toscotto]
#125030 - 02/05/06 12:24 PM (71.100.240.191)
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sorry to hear your rant toscotto but i was their myself a while ago. this game needs an overhaul from the ground up but it will never happen. i rember when i first started my empire i asked alot of ?s well the help tickets our ok but not really good. you might want to get in chat and make some freinds? contact your empires around you also for trade agreements etc. it may seem like their are more a-holes in this game at times but their isnt because everybody reading this has been a noob too you just have to meet the right players. and stop killing cats!
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yes its a toad, if you didnt know that you dont know anything about cbt
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Toscotto
Lieutenant
Reged: 02/02/06
Posts: 530
Loc: Tacoma WA
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Re: Mine for sale...
[Re: cbtgod]
#125032 - 02/05/06 12:33 PM (66.43.216.157)
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funny thing, i changed the sig mere seconds befroe reading that. Ann did not appreciate the cat comment either :P we have several.
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