Karagin
03/04/02 06:33 PM
63.173.170.88
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Type/Model: Liberty Mk I
Tech: Inner Sphere / 3060
Config: Tracked Vehicle
Rules: Level 3, Standard design
Mass: 65 tons
Power Plant: 260 Ford Fusion
Cruise Speed: 43.2 km/h
Maximum Speed: 64.8 km/h
Armor Type: SimplePlate Manufacturers Standard
Armament:
2 Vickers Arms LAC Mk2 Light AC/2s
2 Vickers Ltd. Machine Guns
1 Vickers Arms LAC Light AC/5
Manufacturer: Lantren Corporation
Location: Churchill
Communications System: Vickers 9000
Targeting & Tracking System: Virtutrak S1
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Type/Model: Liberty Mk I
Mass: 65 tons
Equipment: Items Mass
Int. Struct.: 35 pts Standard 0 6.50
Engine: 260 Fusion 0 13.50
Shielding & Transmission Equipment: 0 7.00
Cruise MP: 4
Flank MP: 6
Heat Sinks: 10 Single 0 .00
Cockpit & Controls: 0 3.50
Crew: 5 Members 0 .00
Turret Equipment: 0 .50
Sponson Turret Equipment: 0 1.00
Armor Factor: 216 pts Standard 0 13.50
Internal Armor
Structure Value
Front: 7 50
Left / Right Sides: 7 48/48
Rear: 7 20
Turret: 7 50
Weapons and Equipment Loc Heat Ammo Items Mass
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1 Light AC/2 Lf_Spon 0 45 2 5.00
1 Light AC/2 Rt_Spon 0 45 1 5.00
1 Machine Gun Front 0 100 2 1.00
1 Machine Gun Front 0 1 .50
1 Light AC/5 Turret 0 40 2 7.00
Infantry Bay Body 1 1.00
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TOTALS: 0 9 65.00
Items & Tons Left: 9 .00
Calculated Factors:
Total Cost: 2,875,400 C-Bills
Battle Value: 390
Cost per BV: 7,372.82
Weapon Value: 365 / 365 (Ratio = .94 / .94)
Damage Factors: SRDmg = 9; MRDmg = 5; LRDmg = 1
BattleForce2: MP: 4T, Armor/Structure: 0 / 8
Damage PB/M/L: 1/1/-, Overheat: 0
Class: GH; Point Value: 4
Specials: tran1
My Blurb:
Okay the idea for this came from reading an older scifi story about the world where WW1 went on for longer then it did in our history. This my take of one of the tanks in there, and I felt it would an interesting one for use in the game. The weigh is a guess but they were calling the tank in the story a heavy so I went with that to get the weight.
Comments are welcome.
Karagin
Given time and plenty of paper, a philosopher can prove anything.
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Bob_Richter
03/04/02 06:37 PM
134.121.157.14
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I take it you have HMVee now?
Excellent.
As to the design: Amusing. I wouldn't use one, but I would laugh at my opponent if he did.
-Bob (The Magnificent) Richter
Assertions made in this post are the humble opinion of Bob.
They are not necessarily statements of fact or decrees from God Himself, unless explicitly and seriously stated to be so.
:)
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Karagin
03/04/02 07:16 PM
63.173.170.88
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Doing that defeats the over all idea behind the machine, it is not a hight tech super tank, but a slow moving armored box...or so the story was giving out as and that is what I am sticking to. It had three main guns and some MGs...hence that is what I gave it as best I could with in the game. And considering the weapons were listed as 2 pounders (ie 47mm guns) I think the LACs fit better then a gauss rifle does.
Karagin
Given time and plenty of paper, a philosopher can prove anything.
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NathanKell
03/04/02 07:39 PM
24.44.238.62
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The problem is that, while all that's true, it adds up to a tank that is woefully underarmed for regular BT usage. Of course, that's probably part of the story flavor, too, judging by the horrendously under-armed (at least in terms of concentrated punch) tanks of the WWI design school.
This would indeed make an interesting periphery tank, perhaps something cobbled together by a backwater world?
-NathanKell, BT Space Wars
Question with boldness even the existence of a God; because, if there be one, he must more approve of the homage of reason, than that of blind-folded fear.
Thomas Jefferson |
Karagin
03/04/02 08:07 PM
63.173.170.184
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No they didn't have fusion engines, though they did have steam turbines and such in so of the tanks...a ICE version is possible...I can play around with it some to see how it can be done.
Karagin
Given time and plenty of paper, a philosopher can prove anything.
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NathanKell
03/04/02 09:51 PM
24.44.238.62
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And also WWI-style tanks are usually slow as lard, IIRC...
a 3-5 ICE tank with, perhaps, 2 LAC-5s and an AC-10?
-NathanKell, BT Space Wars
Question with boldness even the existence of a God; because, if there be one, he must more approve of the homage of reason, than that of blind-folded fear.
Thomas Jefferson |
NathanKell
03/04/02 10:00 PM
24.44.238.62
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So...how's this grab you? (unless otherwise noted, same as original)
Liberty Mk. II
3/5 ICE
use LAC/5s in the sponsons, and an AC/10 as the main gun (20rpg)
Armor: 8.5t
Front: 30
R/L Side: 29/29
Turret: 28
Rear: 20
Depending on the program, this may come up as .25 over. Since the infantry only use 0.75t, though, and the main turret 1.2t, you can put that extra .5t of armor on.
-NathanKell, BT Space Wars
Question with boldness even the existence of a God; because, if there be one, he must more approve of the homage of reason, than that of blind-folded fear.
Thomas Jefferson |
Karagin
03/04/02 10:48 PM
63.173.170.227
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The thing in the story didn't have really big guns at the most it had 2 47mm (2 pounders) and one 57mm gun (6 pounder) and a bunch of MGs...I tried to stick to that and keep the heavy chassis part that was given in the story.
Karagin
Given time and plenty of paper, a philosopher can prove anything.
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Karagin
03/04/02 10:50 PM
63.173.170.227
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Interesting, but again the story didn't have the tank having any thing bigger the a 6 pounder (57mm) main gun with two 47mm guns (2 pounders) in side sponsoons as secondary weaponary and a bunch of MGs.
The story labled the tank as a heavy tank and so I went went with that for the version I posted.
Karagin
Given time and plenty of paper, a philosopher can prove anything.
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novakitty
03/05/02 09:19 AM
24.240.246.16
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"heavy" is a good estimate to compare relative effectiveness, but were heavy tanks (by WWI standards) anywhere near as large as a Battletech heavy?
Just a question to pose. No, I cannot remember the answer myself.
meow
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Cray
03/05/02 09:46 AM
204.245.128.3
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That wouldn't really capture the tank's image, one of those old WWI tanks.
Mike Miller, Materials Engineer
Disclaimer: Anything stated in this post is unofficial and non-canon unless directly quoted from a published book. Random internet musings of a BattleTech writer are not canon.
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Karagin
03/05/02 12:21 PM
63.173.170.56
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Some of the ones they came up with but never left the drawing board were far out in tonnage and setup. The ones in the story (Stainsteel Rain) were taken from some of the more radical ideas for tanks at the time (1915-1918) and the author went from there. When it is descirbed as big and heavy I think it was safe to go with that as bases for the weight.
Karagin
Given time and plenty of paper, a philosopher can prove anything.
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Karagin
12/08/06 12:47 AM
70.123.166.36
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Another shot at this...
Karagin
Given time and plenty of paper, a philosopher can prove anything.
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JackGarrity
12/08/06 03:16 AM
71.207.203.207
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its a armor chewer tank dont have to be fancy, bullets re bullets yeah. tho hmm.. instead of that many MG's a set of HMG's might work instead
Greetings Mechwarrior.
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Karagin
12/08/06 12:42 PM
70.123.166.36
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Yes they would, I am waiting for the offical stats in the Tech Manual to come out to upgrade things.
Karagin
Given time and plenty of paper, a philosopher can prove anything.
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