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NeverSayNever
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Marketplace: Resources - price data
      #149744 - 03/02/08 08:11 AM (78.52.26.78)

taken from admin updates:
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[...]
Spent a bunch of time adding logging and updating some code on the mine program to ensure its working as intended and also give discovery and expiration messages in the right empires on your logins. The numerous times I ran the program also gave a jumpstart to reseeding lost mines. Most mines seeded gave a message notification, though some did not so you might have a new mine even though you didn't get a message. You will get a message in the future.
Removed all mines from the noob island.
Changed some code to ensure no new mines appear on the noob island.
Mines: Found and fixed a problem with the mines procedure that was adding far fewer new mines than it should to the game. Some people have spread the rumor that there were no new mines at all, which is untrue. The number was low enough that it could easily appear that way however.
3/1/2008






Well, let's wait and see how long it takes till the current crazy prices at the resources marketplace start fixing themselves (supply and demand).


current prices (resources):
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Resource Units Cost per Unit Seller

Basic Metals 1,074 14,997 Metallic Ministry
Basic Metals 628 14,998 †hé £ûnâ†í€ £égíøn
Basic Metals 100 14,999 Knights of Hell
Basic Metals 5,000 16,000 HeLLs ÐragØØns of Sin
Basic Metals 5,000 17,000 HeLLs ÐragØØns of Sin
Basic Metals 5,000 18,000 HeLLs ÐragØØns of Sin
Basic Metals 5,000 19,000 HeLLs ÐragØØns of Sin
Basic Metals 1,554 19,998 Hex Corporation
Basic Metals 57 19,999 Arrows Guard 2nd RCT

Combustibles 275 17,499 Metallic Ministry
Combustibles 5,196 17,500 Gladiator Battleworks
Combustibles 5,000 22,000 HeLLs ÐragØØns of Sin
Combustibles 1,174 22,998 Hex Corporation
Combustibles 2,200 22,999 Spider Nation
Combustibles 4,519 24,986 3rd *Rose* Royal BM Division
Combustibles 1,014 24,987 Yaronia
Combustibles 8 24,996 Confederate States of Neveron
Combustibles 14,986 29,983 3rd *Rose* Royal BM Division
Combustibles 40 29,984 Assault Services Inc.
Combustibles 613 29,989 Fist of the Dragon

Precious Metals 2,587 45,000 Gladiator Battleworks
Precious Metals 1,097 49,998 Hex Corporation
Precious Metals 370 50,000 Baileys Privateers
Precious Metals 40 52,495 Big Yins
Precious Metals 1,219 52,496 Banana Republic 359
Precious Metals 500 52,497 Skye Rangers
Precious Metals 130 57,899 Big Yins
Precious Metals 850 57,900 Raoul
Precious Metals 40 57,979 Big Yins
Precious Metals 86 57,981 Confederate States of Neveron
Precious Metals 150 57,983 Skye Rangers
Precious Metals 4,627 57,986 3rd *Rose* Royal BM Division
Precious Metals 780 57,988 Baileys Privateers
Precious Metals 100 57,991 Big Yins
Precious Metals 500 59,995 Banana Republic 359
Precious Metals 150 59,999 Big Yins

Rare Earth Elements 1,842 55,000 Gladiator Battleworks
Rare Earth Elements 1,027 67,498 Hex Corporation
Rare Earth Elements 2,000 67,500 32nd Nev Com Honor Guard
Rare Earth Elements 500 68,888 Vanishing Point
Rare Earth Elements 495 69,998 Oonthrax Stables
Rare Earth Elements 490 69,999 Aotearoa
Rare Earth Elements 1,079 70,000 Ingress Legions Reborn
Rare Earth Elements 1,986 90,877 Mechdom
Rare Earth Elements 8,832 92,886 Mechdom
Rare Earth Elements 1,992 92,887 Inqu¡s¡†¡on Øu†pos†

Radioactive Elements 250 999,999 Kiwiland
Radioactive Elements 478 1,000,000 Gladiator Battleworks
Radioactive Elements 260 1,299,989 Ghost Guard
Radioactive Elements 550 1,499,995 Ghost Guard

Neveronium 980 909,998 Jims Giant Locusts
Neveronium 500 909,999 The Davinian Protectorate
Neveronium 8,480 910,000 Alliance Command
Neveronium 50 999,999 Notorious Shadows






current prices (mines)
Quote:


Resource Mines

Resource Cost Seller

Rare Earth Elements 430,000,000 Raiding Party





Edited by ShadowMasterCM (03/19/08 09:06 PM)


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Re: admin updates: mines / resources (mines respawning fixed?) [Re: NeverSayNever]
      #149748 - 03/02/08 03:03 PM (128.243.220.22)

You're going to use this as another excuse to paste vast quantities of data that will never be analysed, Great.

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Re: admin updates: mines / resources (mines respawning fixed?) [Re: mattbuck]
      #149751 - 03/02/08 05:15 PM (97.97.246.88)

copy click copy click copy click. it appears matt that only "never" knows how ctrl-c and scroll something?

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Re: admin updates: mines / resources (mines respawning fixed?) [Re: cbtgod]
      #149801 - 03/06/08 12:37 PM (86.2.121.92)

im getting bored, i think i may spam out his posts with random things that i find.

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Re: admin updates: mines / resources (mines respawning fixed?) [Re: Malachi]
      #149804 - 03/06/08 08:51 PM (12.202.26.61)

NSN must be a frickin bot, no human would ever waste that much time.

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Re: admin updates: mines / resources (mines respawning fixed?) [Re: mattbuck]
      #149823 - 03/09/08 07:22 AM (78.52.254.206)

Quote:

You're going to use this as another excuse to paste vast quantities of data that will never be analysed, Great.





Well, let's call it an inspiration - and or an invitation (Inspired/Submitted by you, mattbuck. Ain't it funny?) - not an excuse, and please never say never, mattbuck, because the analysis of the data might be on its way already ...

Estimated time of arrival (ETA)?

Unknown.


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Re: admin updates: mines / resources (mines respawning fixed?) [Re: NeverSayNever]
      #149824 - 03/09/08 07:44 AM (78.52.254.206)

current prices (resources) [approx. one week real time after the admin fix for mines]:
Quote:


Resource Units Cost per Unit Seller

Basic Metals 1,444 15,976 Stone Dogs
Basic Metals 7,500 15,977 Forgotten Realms
Basic Metals 7,500 15,978 Forgotten Realms
Basic Metals 428 15,979 Hex Corporation
Basic Metals 502 15,980 Momentary Lapse of Reason
Basic Metals 56 15,981 Yaronia
Basic Metals 1,000 15,982 Skye Rangers
Basic Metals 2,000 15,983 2nd Nev Com Royal Guards©
Basic Metals 5,000 15,984 Mantis
Basic Metals 1,292 15,985 Umibozu
Basic Metals 5,000 16,000 HeLLs ÐragØØns of Sin
Basic Metals 5,000 17,000 HeLLs ÐragØØns of Sin
Basic Metals 906 17,998 Helper
Basic Metals 5,000 18,000 HeLLs ÐragØØns of Sin
Basic Metals 5,000 19,000 HeLLs ÐragØØns of Sin

Combustibles 432 29,977 Hex Corporation
Combustibles 544 29,978 Yaronia
Combustibles 3,255 29,979 2nd Nev Com Royal Guards©
Combustibles 5,816 29,980 Gladiator Battleworks
Combustibles 2,067 29,981 Mantis
Combustibles 30 29,984 Assault Services Inc.
Combustibles 5,000 31,999 America

Precious Metals 17 49,973 Stone Dogs
Precious Metals 426 49,974 Hex Corporation
Precious Metals 1,100 49,975 Baileys Privateers
Precious Metals 50,067 49,979 2nd Nev Com Royal Guards©
Precious Metals 308 49,985 Yaronia
Precious Metals 727 49,987 Kituwhaga
Precious Metals 1,000 49,988 Kituwhaga
Precious Metals 725 49,989 Skye Rangers
Precious Metals 1,000 49,990 Baileys Privateers
Precious Metals 280 49,996 Big Yins
Precious Metals 999 50,000 Blackwell Heavy Industries
Precious Metals 500 52,497 Skye Rangers
Precious Metals 130 57,899 Big Yins
Precious Metals 40 57,979 Big Yins
Precious Metals 150 57,983 Skye Rangers
Precious Metals 770 57,988 Baileys Privateers
Precious Metals 100 57,991 Big Yins
Precious Metals 150 59,999 Big Yins

Rare Earth Elements 56 88,886 Stone Dogs
Rare Earth Elements 606 88,887 Hex Corporation
Rare Earth Elements 500 88,888 Vanishing Point
Rare Earth Elements 226 89,883 Clan Night Spirit
Rare Earth Elements 1,564 89,884 Head Hunters RCT
Rare Earth Elements 10,526 89,885 2nd Nev Com Royal Guards©
Rare Earth Elements 6,707 92,886 Mechdom
Rare Earth Elements 1,492 92,887 Inqu¡s¡†¡on Øu†pos†
Rare Earth Elements 48,700 115,000 Marauderville

Radioactive Elements 1 999,996 Stone Dogs
Radioactive Elements 6 999,997 2nd Nev Com Royal Guards©
Radioactive Elements 450 999,998 111. Legion
Radioactive Elements 478 1,000,000 Gladiator Battleworks
Radioactive Elements 260 1,299,989 Ghost Guard

Neveronium 1 899,998 Stone Dogs
Neveronium 3,488 899,999 2nd Nev Com Royal Guards©
Neveronium 490 900,000 Death
Neveronium 144 909,998 Jims Giant Locusts
Neveronium 349 909,999 The Davinian Protectorate
Neveronium 6,000 910,000 Alliance Command
Neveronium 50 999,999 Notorious Shadows






current prices (mines)
Quote:


Resource Cost Seller

Basic Metals 80,000,000 Head Hunters RCT

Combustibles 400,000,000 Lyran Defender
Combustibles 500,000,000 1st Taurian Lancers
Combustibles 500,000,000 1st Taurian Lancers

Precious Metals 500,000,000 1st Taurian Lancers

Rare Earth Elements 400,000,000 Kellys Battalion
Rare Earth Elements 400,000,000 Gray Death Companions
Rare Earth Elements 430,000,000 Raiding Party


Neveronium 1,060,000,000 Sinister Ghost Syndicate
Neveronium 1,500,000,000 Wiesbadener Union







First impressions?

IMVHO many / most minerals are still way too expensive.

You want / need some proof?


taken from the breakeven info screen:
Quote:


If you currently own a mine, you will want to input the maintenance costs of that mine per unit of resource it produces as the value. They are on average as follows:

Resource Base Value Market Low Market Avg

Basic Metals: $800 $15,976 $14,778
Combustibles: $4,000 $29,977 $29,980
Precious Metals: $8,000 $49,973 $49,875
Rare Earth: $16,000 $88,886 $84,082
Radioactive: $40,000 $999,996 $999,998
Neveronium: $80,000 $899,998 $908,332






100 percent profit margin = good (but still healthy) profit / return of investment

200 percent profit margin = very good profit / return of investment

300 percent profit margin = exceptionally good profit / return of investment

400+ percent profit margin = blind greed / extortion starts to take over and or rule



On the other hand it looks like the mines marketplace starts recovering.

Well, let's wait and see ...


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Re: admin updates: mines / resources (mines respawning fixed?) [Re: NeverSayNever]
      #149856 - 03/13/08 01:37 AM (62.42.18.139)

NSN:

When mine broke it took months to raise the price of mineral to what it now, becouse nev is a very low evolving game (people had their tock, not all mine disapeared at same time...)

Now is going to happen the same, now there are new mines although but, maybe they arent till enough for an adecuate mineral production (it will take some time but eventually will happen), most are not commed so their production is not shown in the market, then there is people stocks wich theyll want to rebuild and then we have to wait to the price to start getting low (wich will take some time too).

You wont notice thi on market until a few month from now.


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Re: admin updates: mines / resources (mines respawning fixed?) [Re: rantamplan]
      #149857 - 03/13/08 09:03 AM (198.234.45.200)

i say 6 months to a real year. i agree with rantamplan that everyone is going to have to rebuild their reserves on top of amping up their production. i guarantee that quite a few producers have even quit as a whole because of the pricing. therefore, we'll need a large increase in mines to cover just getting everyone back online. compounding this is the reluctance of people selling minerals to sell them more cheaply. that's why im saying 6 months to a real year. just like everything in this game, its alot easier to tear something down then to rebuild it. IE skill ups vs skill downs, wars, morale etc. Mineral prices will be the same way.





As a note, has anyone gotten a mine spawn message yet?


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Re: admin updates: mines / resources (mines respawning fixed?) [Re: jake]
      #149858 - 03/13/08 09:15 AM (97.97.246.88)

i disagree with the above our producers have kept going due to low lvl empires selling or trading mines as needed a strong support function in any faction can over come anything. then again not all factions work together either.

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Re: admin updates: mines / resources (mines respawning fixed?) [Re: cbtgod]
      #149859 - 03/13/08 11:16 AM (76.181.31.173)

really...im amazed lol, for some reason i thought that mines were just scarce for everybody, must just be for high level emps and anti-hocs lol

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Re: admin updates: mines / resources (mines respawning fixed?) [Re: jake]
      #149861 - 03/13/08 09:02 PM (97.97.246.88)

from what ive heard and it may be bs, mines that are being used had the issue? most of us with lower lvl empires cant afford to use mines. so the were not being used. so it seemed to really only effect mines in use. ive not heard anyone say there unused mines go bye bye. in my lower lvl empires i keep a list of mines and i had some from 4-5 months ago and they are ok, but they were not in use. so to be honest jake this is neveron lol.

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Re: admin updates: mines / resources (mines respawning fixed?) [Re: cbtgod]
      #149865 - 03/15/08 07:23 AM (66.207.3.73)

It was the active mines. In an empire I sold a bit back I had issues where I would comm a mine and in a day or two it would run dry. It could be said that they had run dry "naturally" but highly improbable. I had, literally, 4 out of 6 commed mines run dry in less than a week. none of them basic metals, all were precious metal and above.

How many tx2's are for sale? any vehicles that require radioactives are now scarce.

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Re: admin updates: mines / resources (mines respawning fixed?) [Re: NeverSayNever]
      #149868 - 03/16/08 06:40 AM (78.52.104.148)

current prices (resources) [approx. two weeks real time after the admin fix for mines]:
Quote:


Resource Units Cost per Unit Seller

Basic Metals 395 19,994 Metallic Ministry
Basic Metals 568 19,995 Hex Corporation
Basic Metals 199,840 19,996 Brotherhood of Steel - Reloaded
Basic Metals 3,850 19,997 Lyran Defender
Basic Metals 5,000 20,000 HeLLs ÐragØØns of Sin
Basic Metals 5,000 21,000 HeLLs ÐragØØns of Sin
Basic Metals 5,000 22,000 HeLLs ÐragØØns of Sin
Basic Metals 5,000 23,000 HeLLs ÐragØØns of Sin

Combustibles 5,925 22,000 Gryphos
Combustibles 803 29,966 Kell Hounds RCT
Combustibles 12 29,968 V¡c¡ous In†ën†¡ons
Combustibles 685 29,977 Yaronia
Combustibles 5,066 29,980 Gladiator Battleworks
Combustibles 30 29,984 Assault Services Inc.

Precious Metals 802 42,553 Hex Corporation
Precious Metals 100,000 42,554 Brotherhood of Steel - Reloaded
Precious Metals 405 42,555 Momentary Lapse of Reason
Precious Metals 1,000 43,898 Raoul
Precious Metals 500 43,900 Skye Rangers
Precious Metals 2,460 46,000 Platonian Empire
Precious Metals 1,100 49,973 Baileys Privateers
Precious Metals 1,863 49,976 Hex Corporation
Precious Metals 190 49,977 Raoul
Precious Metals 1,511 49,978 Yaronia
Precious Metals 44,991 49,979 2nd Nev Com Royal Guards©
Precious Metals 725 49,989 Skye Rangers
Precious Metals 1,000 49,990 Baileys Privateers
Precious Metals 260 49,996 Big Yins
Precious Metals 999 50,000 Blackwell Heavy Industries
Precious Metals 500 52,497 Skye Rangers
Precious Metals 130 57,899 Big Yins
Precious Metals 40 57,979 Big Yins
Precious Metals 150 57,983 Skye Rangers
Precious Metals 770 57,988 Baileys Privateers

Rare Earth Elements 694 87,999 Hex Corporation
Rare Earth Elements 500 88,000 Vanishing Point
Rare Earth Elements 99,500 88,877 Brotherhood of Steel - Reloaded
Rare Earth Elements 1,232 88,878 Hex Corporation
Rare Earth Elements 652 88,879 Head Hunters RCT
Rare Earth Elements 5,900 88,887 Marauderville
Rare Earth Elements 1,115 88,998 Shadow_Legion
Rare Earth Elements 82 89,883 Clan Night Spirit
Rare Earth Elements 7,545 89,885 2nd Nev Com Royal Guards©

Radioactive Elements 199 998,998 Storm`s Metal Thunder
Radioactive Elements 586 998,999 V¡c¡ous In†ën†¡ons
Radioactive Elements 2 998,999 Shadow_Legion
Radioactive Elements 10,000 1,000,000 Styk Heavy Industries

Neveronium 1,000 700,000 Notorious Shadows
Neveronium 300 800,000 Death
Neveronium 9,900 880,000 Camsoke
Neveronium 1 899,998 Stone Dogs
Neveronium 3,467 899,999 2nd Nev Com Royal Guards©
Neveronium 144 909,998 Jims Giant Locusts
Neveronium 299 909,999 The Davinian Protectorate






current prices (mines) [approx. two weeks real time after the admin fix for mines]:
Quote:


Resource Cost Seller

Basic Metals 70,000,000 Vatican
Basic Metals 75,000,000 Waco Rangers
Basic Metals 80,000,000 Waco Rangers
Basic Metals 80,000,000 Waco Rangers
Basic Metals 80,000,000 Head Hunters RCT
Basic Metals 80,000,000 Head Hunters RCT
Basic Metals 80,000,000 Head Hunters RCT
Basic Metals 80,000,000 Head Hunters RCT

Combustibles 175,000,000 Kell Hounds RCT
Combustibles 300,000,000 Waco Rangers
Combustibles 300,000,000 Head Hunters RCT
Combustibles 300,000,000 Head Hunters RCT

Precious Metals 200,000,000 Lyran Defense Force
Precious Metals 250,000,000 Maitland
Precious Metals 300,000,000 Waco Rangers

Rare Earth Elements 350,000,000 Waco Rangers
Rare Earth Elements 400,000,000 Kellys Battalion
Rare Earth Elements 400,000,000 Gray Death Companions
Rare Earth Elements 400,000,000 Head Hunters RCT
Rare Earth Elements 430,000,000 Raiding Party

Neveronium 1,060,000,000 Sinister Ghost Syndicate
Neveronium 1,500,000,000 Wiesbadener Union





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Re: admin updates: mines / resources (mines respawning fixed?) [Re: rantamplan]
      #149869 - 03/16/08 07:31 AM (78.52.104.148)

It's some kind of series of small vicious circles / cycles - connected to each other - which will prevent lower mines and resources prices - and lower prices for any player made products in general as well - in the near future.


If you just bought (= high price) and set up a new mine, then it is only natural that you want to get back most of your invested money - ASAP - and before random mine expiry could ruin your investment ...

If you just discovered a new mine (either via exploration (= added costs) or via random new mine (re)spawn (pop-up message) in one of your existing zones) and look at the still much higher than before prices for resources and new mines it would be foolish to offer your mine / resources for cheap ...

If you look at current high prices for any new (or old) products offered (parts, ammo, new vehicles, new player produced Mechs) you will inevitably start asking yourself why you should start selling your new - or old - mines and or resources for cheap, while everybody else keeps on selling his / her new (or old) stuff for a more or less huge profit ...

With FWars (including fake FWars) - and the limited protection times they offered - being discontinued, there is no way left for any smaller empires - and or smaller and or independent factions - to set up a new mine (like basic metals) and mining some minerals for cheap resale while being protected for like up to 4 (max. FWar time) plus 2 (max. post FWar protection) weeks. Less small / independent minerals producers = less competition at the minerals marketplace = less minerals offered at reasonable and affordable prices = less products from small / independent producers, etc. ...


All of the above should almost guarantee high prices for resources, new mines - and almost any new (or old) product/s as well - for quite some time ...


Of course high prices for pretty much anything are not going to help attract and or keep any new players - and or any of the old ones which are busy trying to rebuild and or recover from losses, e.g. inflicted by unlimited 'gangbanging' / 'teamworking' at 'equal' level which has just been (re)introduced via the discontinuation of the FWars (including fake FWars to help rebuild / recover) feature ...


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Re: admin updates: mines / resources (mines respawning fixed?) [Re: jake]
      #149870 - 03/16/08 07:34 AM (78.52.104.148)

Quote:


As a note, has anyone gotten a mine spawn message yet?




Zero, nada, null mine spawn messages so far ...


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Re: admin updates: mines / resources (mines respawning fixed?) [Re: NeverSayNever]
      #149939 - 03/19/08 03:04 PM (77.99.39.55)

MB / Shadow

can you block / delete / remove / do anything with these lame ass posts, we all play nev, we all see the mines forsale, the mechs that are there and the factions, we dont need to be reminded of them every time we log into sarna aswell


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Re: admin updates: mines / resources (mines respawning fixed?) [Re: HLC]
      #149941 - 03/19/08 05:40 PM (81.77.49.173)

I dunno, I guess it's somewhat relevant. Could move to the archive I guess.

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Re: admin updates: mines / resources (mines respawning fixed?) [Re: mattbuck]
      #149943 - 03/19/08 09:03 PM (74.74.248.205)

NSN has just as much right to post anything about Neveron here on the fourms as any other player. If his posts tend to bore or annoy you, you have the option not to read threads started by him, or simply stop reading a thread once you know what is about.

As for asking me to 'block/delete/remove/do anything' with his posts:

I will move a thread based on my interpretation of its proper category [ie Marketplace vs Bugs]

I will possibly modify an unclear original subject line ["I HATE NEV" when the thread is about a player posting his empires for sale would be changed to "L5 Empire For Sale"].

I will detatch and archive any off topic comments in certain threads [comments about how player X cheats in a Marketplace thread]

I will lock any relevant thread that has an obvious 'end' to it [empire sold or update psoted with answer to question]

I will delete posts that are obnoxious, insulting, using profanity or just plain immature in nature from any posts, in almost every section of the forum in cluding General. For the most part I will leave the posts in the General section alone and let everyone 'express' themselves all they want in there.

I will restrict almost ALL replies to the Neveron News section and leave that for more 'official' threads and information from and about Neveron policies and proceedures.

Why am I doing all this? I am hoping to organize the forums into a useful tool that can help players both new and old. I am happy to listen to any ideas that you may come up with along these lines, but cant promise that all can or will be implemented exactly aas you suggest.

Now as for NSN, if you have some sort of plan or system to analyze all this 'data' that might make your threads more interesting to more of the player base in general. Food for thought...

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Re: admin updates: mines / resources (mines respawning fixed?) [Re: ShadowMasterCM]
      #149944 - 03/19/08 09:23 PM (12.202.26.61)

i now choose ignore

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Re: admin updates: mines / resources (mines respawning fixed?) [Re: Toscotto]
      #149945 - 03/20/08 07:39 AM (97.97.246.88)

no he dsnt hasnt for years now. all it is crtl-c scroll. and thats what pisses people off. no act work has been done on these stats have they? i think if he act did what he said he was going to do i think 3-4 months ago people woudlnt bitch about it so much.

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Re: admin updates: mines / resources (mines respawning fixed?) [Re: cbtgod]
      #149946 - 03/20/08 10:16 AM (81.77.49.173)

I have to agree. I have learnt something over my years on Neveron - data you collect will only ever be used by you because no one else gives a rat's ass. But again, it's not against the rules, just annoying.

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Re: admin updates: mines / resources (mines respawning fixed?) [Re: NeverSayNever]
      #149956 - 03/23/08 07:21 AM (78.52.244.196)

current prices (resources) [approx. three weeks real time after the admin fix for mines]:
Quote:


Resource Units Cost per Unit Seller

Basic Metals 972 9,998 †hé £ûnâ†í€ £égíøn
Basic Metals 3,295 9,999 Hex Corporation
Basic Metals 10,000 10,000 Notorious Shadows
Basic Metals 105 11,991 NotNargothrond
Basic Metals 167 11,992 Fates Punishment
Basic Metals 15,197 11,993 Confederate States of Neveron
Basic Metals 1,475 11,995 Royal Canines
Basic Metals 837 11,998 Metallic Ministry
Basic Metals 1,012 11,999 BassMasters
Basic Metals 1,000 12,000 Dark Mercenaries, Inc.
Basic Metals 5,000 12,000 Quala
Basic Metals 167 14,985 Camelot
Basic Metals 574 14,986 Royal Canines
Basic Metals 90 14,987 dredd
Basic Metals 266 14,988 Fodder Allies
Basic Metals 6,225 14,991 Nobles Battalion
Basic Metals 18,157 14,992 Clan Combat Cats
Basic Metals 853 14,994 Loserville
Basic Metals 1,323 14,997 †hé £ûnâ†í€ £égíøn
Basic Metals 300 14,999 Talon Guard

Combustibles 3,093 17,988 Hex Corporation
Combustibles 5,000 17,989 Notorious Shadows
Combustibles 92 17,991 Metallic Ministry
Combustibles 366 17,992 Metallic Ministry
Combustibles 2,000 17,993 Banana Republic 359
Combustibles 5,000 17,994 Quala
Combustibles 27,031 17,999 Cormyr
Combustibles 5,563 21,997 Waco Rangers
Combustibles 4,925 22,000 Gryphos
Combustibles 803 29,966 Kell Hounds RCT
Combustibles 685 29,977 Yaronia
Combustibles 3,766 29,980 Gladiator Battleworks
Combustibles 7,933 35,000 Tscheianic War Gladiators

Precious Metals 991 29,997 Skye Rangers
Precious Metals 2 29,998 Eye Of The Beholder
Precious Metals 2,218 29,999 Hex Corporation
Precious Metals 5,000 30,000 Notorious Shadows
Precious Metals 322 35,534 Rohan
Precious Metals 400 35,535 Raoul
Precious Metals 1,585 35,536 Momentary Lapse of Reason
Precious Metals 965 35,537 Banana Republic 359
Precious Metals 200 35,539 Big Yins
Precious Metals 885 40,540 Banana Republic 359
Precious Metals 1,990 40,541 Baileys Privateers
Precious Metals 5,000 42,543 Garanthia
Precious Metals 3,489 42,544 Yaronia
Precious Metals 500 42,545 Raoul
Precious Metals 20,830 42,549 Silantra
Precious Metals 762 42,553 Hex Corporation
Precious Metals 2,460 46,000 Platonian Empire
Precious Metals 1,100 49,973 Baileys Privateers
Precious Metals 1,863 49,976 Hex Corporation
Precious Metals 1,511 49,978 Yaronia

Rare Earth Elements 52 84,998 Eye Of The Beholder
Rare Earth Elements 3,637 84,999 Hex Corporation
Rare Earth Elements 2,827 85,000 Inqu¡s¡†¡on Øu†pos†
Rare Earth Elements 378 87,888 Vanishing Point
Rare Earth Elements 3,562 87,998 Waco Rangers
Rare Earth Elements 1,997 87,999 Head Hunters RCT
Rare Earth Elements 1,032 88,878 Hex Corporation
Rare Earth Elements 1,115 88,998 Shadow_Legion
Rare Earth Elements 82 89,883 Clan Night Spirit

Radioactive Elements 586 998,999 V¡c¡ous In†ën†¡ons
Radioactive Elements 2 998,999 Shadow_Legion
Radioactive Elements 6,000 1,000,000 Styk Heavy Industries

Neveronium 20 699,999 Ørder of the ßlack Ðrågon
Neveronium 10 699,999 Eye Of The Beholder
Neveronium 900 700,000 Notorious Shadows
Neveronium 9,900 880,000 Camsoke
Neveronium 3,467 899,999 2nd Nev Com Royal Guards©






current prices (mines) [approx. three weeks real time after the admin fix for mines]:
Quote:


Resource Cost Seller

Basic Metals 50,000,000 Waco Rangers

Combustibles 175,000,000 Kell Hounds RCT
Combustibles 250,000,000 Phoban Empire
Combustibles 300,000,000 Waco Rangers
Combustibles 300,000,000 Head Hunters RCT
Combustibles 300,000,000 Head Hunters RCT

Precious Metals 200,000,000 Lyran Defense Force
Precious Metals 250,000,000 Maitland
Precious Metals 300,000,000 Waco Rangers

Rare Earth Elements 350,000,000 Waco Rangers
Rare Earth Elements 400,000,000 Kellys Battalion
Rare Earth Elements 400,000,000 Gray Death Companions
Rare Earth Elements 400,000,000 Head Hunters RCT
Rare Earth Elements 430,000,000 Raiding Party

Neveronium 1,060,000,000 Sinister Ghost Syndicate





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Re: admin updates: mines / resources (mines respawning fixed?) [Re: HLC]
      #149958 - 03/23/08 07:48 AM (78.52.244.196)

HLC (Loc. UK) wrote:
Quote:

MB / Shadow

can you block / delete / remove / do anything with these lame ass posts, we all play nev, we all see the mines forsale, the mechs that are there and the factions, we dont need to be reminded of them every time we log into sarna aswell





Sigh, you just don't get it, do you, HLC?


Simply try to look beyond the weekly 'snapshots' / data samples, which you apparently despise / hate so much.


Any kind of archive (e.g. archived info on Mech prices, or resources / mines prices) is nothing but a more or less detailed and or complex collection of snapshots / data samples taken over some time.

Each individual snapshot / data sample won't tell you much, that much is true, but the more snapshots / data samples you collect and take into account later - in retrospective -, the more detailed your knowledge of the past / past events - and the more detailed any extrapolations / educated guesses you can get for the more or less near or distant future ...

In order to prevent people from making the same mistakes - again and again ((gaming) history tends to repeat itself) -, looking back at past events / data samples / (gaming) history might help you to master the future much better ...




As for your requests for moderation / 'censorship', you might want to take a closer look at the following wikipedia entry:


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Speakers'_Corner


to help remind you of a long standing tradition (freedom of speech), though it is kind of a sad story if a foreigner - like NeverSayNever -, has got to remind a resident of the United Kindom (UK), like HLC, to do so ...


Have a nice day ...

Edited by NeverSayNever (03/23/08 07:57 AM)


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Re: admin updates: mines / resources (mines respawning fixed?) [Re: NeverSayNever]
      #149963 - 03/23/08 10:42 AM (84.65.139.187)

It would be useful NSN, if you did something with the data, but you do nothing.

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Re: admin updates: mines / resources (mines respawning fixed?) [Re: mattbuck]
      #149973 - 03/23/08 11:32 PM (24.251.116.116)

SUN MAR 3 2008 10:11 AM

RESOURCE <> Amount <> Average Price <>% of Res


Basic Metal <>23,413 <> 17,221.2 <> 22.6%
Comb Metal <>35,025 <> 24,356.5 <> 33.9%
Precious Metals <>13,226 <> 55,386.69<> 12.8%
Rare Earth <>20,243 <> 74,553.3 <> 19.6%
Radioactive <>1,538 <> 1,199,995.75<> 1.5%
Neveronium <>10,010 <>932,499.0 <>9.7%



Sun Mar 23 2008 07:21 AM


RESOURCE <> Amount <>Average Price* <> % of Res** <> D/I Amount** <>D/I Price**


Basic Metal <>67,045 <>13,044.2 <> 30.3% <> +286% <> -24.3%
Comb Metal <> 66,257 <>22,682.0 <> 29.9% <> +89.2% <>-6.87%
Prec Metals <> 52,073 <>39,370.9 <> 23.5% <> +293.7% <>-28.9%
Rare Earth <> 14,679 <>87,404.6 <> 6.6% <> -27.5%<> +17.2
Radioactive <> 6,588 <>999,332.7 <> 2.9% <> +328.3% <>-16.7%
Neveronium <> 14,297<> 775,999.4 <> 6.4% <> +42.8% <>-16.8%



* +/- 50.0
** +/- 1%
*** ALL numbers before decimal rounded up/down
****% of Res is how much of each metal is available on the market place IE. 22.6% of the metal on the market is BM



PS> IF #'s are wrong or calc's is wrong then plz say something so i can fix. did this late at night and #'s could be off or did math wrong but hey i think everything is ok

From what i can tell everything is going back down but Rare Earth has actually gone up and i figure it will keep goin up for awhile.

Edited by DE (03/23/08 11:41 PM)


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Re: admin updates: mines / resources (mines respawning fixed?) [Re: NeverSayNever]
      #150035 - 03/30/08 07:45 AM (78.50.227.94)

current prices (resources) [approx. four weeks real time after the admin fix for mines]:
Quote:


Resource Units Cost per Unit Seller

Basic Metals 65 7,996 Kituwhaga
Basic Metals 774 7,997 †hé £ûnâ†í€ £égíøn
Basic Metals 626 7,998 Land of Ozz
Basic Metals 4,003 7,999 Nora
Basic Metals 1,000 8,000 House Ensigera
Basic Metals 48,000 8,000 House of Shadows
Basic Metals 500 9,485 Knights of Hell
Basic Metals 503 9,486 Hex Corporation
Basic Metals 2,128 9,487 Royal Canines
Basic Metals 264 9,488 Land of Ozz
Basic Metals 304 9,495 CSW: Ghost Howlers
Basic Metals 5,500 9,498 34. Kurrs Schlaeger
Basic Metals 2,125 9,499 Hex Corporation
Basic Metals 30 9,500 Free Will Crusaders
Basic Metals 941 9,997 Royal Canines
Basic Metals 1,389 9,999 †hé £ûnâ†í€ £égíøn
Basic Metals 3,625 10,000 Loserville
Basic Metals 1,060 10,996 CSW: Ghost Howlers
Basic Metals 1,500 13,400 House Ensigera
Basic Metals 167 14,991 Camelot

Combustibles 297 16,999 S Divsion
Combustibles 17,464 17,000 House of Shadows
Combustibles 1,880 18,499 LODR
Combustibles 4,925 22,000 Gryphos
Combustibles 685 29,977 Yaronia

Precious Metals 4,560 17,554 The Red Legion
Precious Metals 2,850 17,555 Momentary Lapse of Reason
Precious Metals 1,241 18,555 Momentary Lapse of Reason
Precious Metals 2,382 19,998 Yaronia
Precious Metals 61,388 29,983 Cormyr
Precious Metals 20 29,995 Big Yins
Precious Metals 1,920 29,996 Baileys Privateers
Precious Metals 991 29,997 Skye Rangers

Rare Earth Elements 2,597 64,999 The Red Legion
Rare Earth Elements 1,294 65,000 The Decepticons
Rare Earth Elements 571 74,998 Hex Corporation
Rare Earth Elements 2,107 74,999 Hex Corporation
Rare Earth Elements 2,579 75,000 The Decepticons
Rare Earth Elements 295 84,996 Kows Paddock
Rare Earth Elements 2,727 85,000 Inqu¡s¡†¡on Øu†pos†
Rare Earth Elements 2,412 87,998 Waco Rangers
Rare Earth Elements 1,090 88,998 Shadow_Legion
Rare Earth Elements 82 89,883 Clan Night Spirit

Radioactive Elements 190 989,999 Gladiator Battleworks
Radioactive Elements 282 990,000 HeLLs ÐragØØns of Sin
Radioactive Elements 5,600 1,000,000 Styk Heavy Industries

Neveronium 980 699,996 Team Banzai
Neveronium 23 699,998 Kows Paddock
Neveronium 10 699,999 Eye Of The Beholder
Neveronium 840 700,000 Notorious Shadows
Neveronium 9,900 880,000 Camsoke
Neveronium 3,467 899,999 2nd Nev Com Royal Guards©






current prices (mines) [approx. four weeks real time after the admin fix for mines]:
Quote:


Resource Cost Seller

Combustibles 100,000,000 Glory Road
Combustibles 175,000,000 Kell Hounds RCT

Precious Metals 200,000,000 Lyran Defense Force
Precious Metals 250,000,000 Maitland

Rare Earth Elements 300,000,000 House of Shadows
Rare Earth Elements 400,000,000 Kellys Battalion
Rare Earth Elements 400,000,000 Gray Death Companions
Rare Earth Elements 430,000,000 Raiding Party

Neveronium 1,060,000,000 Sinister Ghost Syndicate





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Re: admin updates: mines / resources (mines respawning fixed?) [Re: DE]
      #150036 - 03/30/08 08:06 AM (78.50.227.94)

Quote:


From what i can tell everything is going back down but Rare Earth has actually gone up and i figure it will keep goin up for awhile.






First of all: thanks for spending some time on number crunching, DE .



BTW, surprisingly it looks like minerals prices for REE are going down now too ...


Well, maybe several empires commissioned a couple of new REE mines ( - hoping for huge profit margins? - ) and realized that several other empires came up with the same idea (commission new REE mine for some nice profit), finally resulting in some more competition and lower prices at the REE marketplace (because stockpiling large surplusses of REE would not help, too expensive in the long run (storage fees))?


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Re: admin updates: mines / resources (mines respawning fixed?) [Re: NeverSayNever]
      #150108 - 04/06/08 06:04 AM (78.53.181.176)

current prices (resources) [approx. five weeks real time after the admin fix for mines]:
Quote:


Resource Units Cost per Unit Seller

Basic Metals 15,000 6,495 House of Shadows
Basic Metals 169 6,496 Knights of Hell
Basic Metals 584 6,497 Kosala
Basic Metals 5,620 6,498 Royal Canines
Basic Metals 7,000 6,499 Banana Republic 359
Basic Metals 750 6,500 Narthex
Basic Metals 2,500 6,850 Black Legion
Basic Metals 465 6,893 Land of Ozz
Basic Metals 1,790 6,894 Metallic Ministry
Basic Metals 714 6,898 Loserville
Basic Metals 571 6,900 Internal Affairs
Basic Metals 714 6,998 Camelot
Basic Metals 450 7,748 Helper
Basic Metals 645 7,749 NotNargothrond
Basic Metals 1,945 7,750 †hé £ûnâ†í€ £égíøn
Basic Metals 3,206 7,798 DEATHisNEAR
Basic Metals 1,632 7,799 Comando Vermelho
Basic Metals 3,026 7,800 Black Legion
Basic Metals 930 7,898 Fodder Allies
Basic Metals 1,735 7,899 Hex Corporation

Combustibles 64 15,553 Farmers
Combustibles 494 15,554 Metallic Ministry
Combustibles 1,416 15,555 Spider Nation
Combustibles 2,000 17,497 Aotearoa
Combustibles 120 19,950 shadowwalkers
Combustibles 50,000 19,999 2nd Taurian Rangers
Combustibles 1,991 21,997 Yaronia
Combustibles 1,351 21,998 Banana Republic 359
Combustibles 394 21,999 Hidden in the Shadows
Combustibles 4,648 22,000 Gryphos
Combustibles 2,445 29,960 Juggernaught
Combustibles 490 29,977 Yaronia

Precious Metals 2,850 25,995 Banana Republic 359
Precious Metals 1,000 25,997 Skye Rangers
Precious Metals 900 25,998 Yaronia
Precious Metals 4,000 26,000 Banana Republic 359
Precious Metals 21,748 29,983 Cormyr
Precious Metals 20 29,995 Big Yins
Precious Metals 1,777 29,996 Baileys Privateers
Precious Metals 322 35,534 Rohan
Precious Metals 200 35,539 Big Yins
Precious Metals 700 38,836 S Divsion
Precious Metals 1,990 40,541 Baileys Privateers
Precious Metals 1,100 49,973 Baileys Privateers
Precious Metals 1,000 49,990 Baileys Privateers
Precious Metals 260 49,996 Big Yins
Precious Metals 999 50,000 Blackwell Heavy Industries

Rare Earth Elements 8,248 70,000 Marauderville
Rare Earth Elements 1,805 74,997 Hex Corporation
Rare Earth Elements 9 74,998 S Divsion
Rare Earth Elements 962 74,999 Hex Corporation
Rare Earth Elements 3,000 79,992 Kiwiland
Rare Earth Elements 240 84,996 Kows Paddock
Rare Earth Elements 2,727 85,000 Inqu¡s¡†¡on Øu†pos†
Rare Earth Elements 1,912 87,998 Waco Rangers
Rare Earth Elements 82 89,883 Clan Night Spirit

Radioactive Elements 200 999,999 Gladiator Battleworks
Radioactive Elements 4,400 1,000,000 Styk Heavy Industries

Neveronium 8 699,998 Kows Paddock
Neveronium 10 699,999 Eye Of The Beholder
Neveronium 840 700,000 Notorious Shadows
Neveronium 9,900 880,000 Camsoke
Neveronium 3,350 899,999 2nd Nev Com Royal Guards©







current prices (mines) [approx. five weeks real time after the admin fix for mines]:
Quote:


Resource Cost Seller

Combustibles 200,000,000 Juggernaught
Combustibles 200,000,000 Basaku

Precious Metals 250,000,000 Maitland

Rare Earth Elements 300,000,000 House of Shadows
Rare Earth Elements 430,000,000 Raiding Party
Rare Earth Elements 450,000,000 2nd Nev Com Royal Guards©

Neveronium 1,060,000,000 Sinister Ghost Syndicate





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Re: admin updates: mines / resources (mines respawning fixed?) [Re: NeverSayNever]
      #150189 - 04/13/08 06:27 AM (78.55.227.124)

current prices (resources) [approx. six weeks real time after the admin fix for mines]:
Quote:


Resource Units Cost per Unit Seller

Basic Metals 4,542 6,236 Hex Corporation
Basic Metals 195 7,999 Camelot
Basic Metals 25,541 8,000 House of Shadows
Basic Metals 5,000 8,000 Black Legion
Basic Metals 10,000 9,000 CST
Basic Metals 503 9,486 Hex Corporation
Basic Metals 2,128 9,487 Royal Canines
Basic Metals 2,125 9,499 Hex Corporation
Basic Metals 30 9,500 Free Will Crusaders
Basic Metals 741 9,997 Royal Canines
Basic Metals 1,389 9,999 †hé £ûnâ†í€ £égíøn

Combustibles 19,000 19,999 2nd Taurian Rangers
Combustibles 1,741 21,997 Yaronia
Combustibles 2,445 29,960 Juggernaught
Combustibles 490 29,977 Yaronia

Precious Metals 2,000 25,993 Waco Rangers
Precious Metals 1,217 25,994 Baileys Privateers
Precious Metals 900 25,998 Yaronia
Precious Metals 21,748 29,983 Cormyr
Precious Metals 20 29,995 Big Yins
Precious Metals 1,777 29,996 Baileys Privateers
Precious Metals 322 35,534 Rohan
Precious Metals 200 35,539 Big Yins
Precious Metals 700 38,836 S Divsion
Precious Metals 1,990 40,541 Baileys Privateers
Precious Metals 1,100 49,973 Baileys Privateers

Rare Earth Elements 333 84,999 Hex Corporation
Rare Earth Elements 2,627 85,000 Inqu¡s¡†¡on Øu†pos†

Radioactive Elements 798 999,998 Ghost Guard
Radioactive Elements 144 999,999 Gladiator Battleworks

Neveronium 250 650,000 Death
Neveronium 1,000 699,999 Team Banzai
Neveronium 636 700,000 Notorious Shadows
Neveronium 9,900 880,000 Camsoke






current prices (mines) [approx. six weeks real time after the admin fix for mines]:
Quote:


Resource Cost Seller

Combustibles 75,000,000 Kauket
Combustibles 80,000,000 waterdeep
Combustibles 100,000,000 Black Death

Rare Earth Elements 250,000,000 House of Shadows
Rare Earth Elements 300,000,000 House of Shadows
Rare Earth Elements 430,000,000 Raiding Party
Rare Earth Elements 450,000,000 2nd Nev Com Royal Guards©





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