adamwehn
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Plasma Rifle question...
#150177 - 04/11/08 08:27 AM (66.227.177.169)
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Anyone know what the BV of the Ammo is?
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Tripod
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Re: Plasma Rifle question...
[Re: adamwehn]
#150198 - 04/14/08 02:24 AM (192.91.75.30)
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if it's listed in one of the new books i'll post it when i get home...otherwise, i cant help.
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Cray
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Re: Plasma Rifle question...
[Re: Tripod]
#150202 - 04/14/08 05:59 AM (147.160.136.10)
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The IS Plasma Rifle has a BV2 of 210, while the ammo is 26/ton. Note that the ammo is not explosive.
The Clan Plasma Cannon has a BV2 of 170, while the ammo is 21/ton. Again, the PC ammo is not explosive.
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Re: Plasma Rifle question...
[Re: adamwehn]
#151227 - 07/12/08 11:47 AM (72.58.171.148)
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What is a plasma rifle? Thats a new one on me
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Christopher_Perkins
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IIRC Plasma Rifle and Plasma Cannon started life as MF: UK Weapons and had a Rules Status of Level 3 (MF UK Level 3 Rules as per MaxTech) the old rules set but were not accorded "Canon" Status
They have since been adapted into Canon Tournament Legal Versions in Total Warfare / Tech Manual.
I Believe that the Non-Canon Level 3 Versions are available in Heavy Metal Pro 5.X if you set the rules level to 3, and turn on the MFUK Switch...
IDNR if the game play & Construction rules are similar or different from the TM/TW Canon versions...
The TM/TW Equipment will be included in HM Pro 6.
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Greyslayer
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What is a plasma rifle? Thats a new one on me
Probably the last thing a vehicle player would say too 
They are essentially fairly interesting if a little broken pieces of kit. The rifle does 10 point damage (5 point lots or am I confused with another weapon?... perhaps the HAGs in this case) plus 1d6 heat to mechs and nasty things to vehicles and infantry if not mechs  .
Plasma Canons are the clans version and does straight heat (2d6 to mechs) and about 3d6 damage to vehicles I believe, they may do something extra as well but considering I haven't used them extensively I am a little lacking on their function.
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Lafeel
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Re: Plasma Rifle question...
[Re: Greyslayer]
#151270 - 07/15/08 01:26 PM (157.157.83.10)
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Greyslayer is right, exept that it does 10 points to one location. Kinda like a even meaner ppc..
Slightly shorter range though (same range as a standard large laser, iirc), and ammo dependent.
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Re: Plasma Rifle question...
[Re: Lafeel]
#151275 - 07/15/08 09:43 PM (99.203.109.18)
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What are the full stats and extra damage if any?
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Lafeel
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10 heat, 10 damage, 0/5/10/15 range, 10 shots per ton of ammo (non explosive), 6 tons of weight, takes up 2 critical slots, and causes 1d6 heat to any mech you hit with it.
edit: here, have a wiki
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Re: Plasma Rifle question...
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#151292 - 07/16/08 07:33 PM (70.6.121.6)
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12-22 damage points with 5/10/15 range! Can you say over powering?
As that weapon is now it has no place in any campaign that I will run.
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Lafeel
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That is against vehicles only, I think..Or was it battle armored infantry. Against most things it just does the extra heat.
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Re: Plasma Rifle question...
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#151299 - 07/17/08 07:25 AM (70.6.213.132)
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Six to eight points of armor damage on average is a LOT of damage.
I think its just fine with out so much extra. It has the same range and does more damage than a large laser. It does the same damage but does not have the range of a PPC. But it falls in between the weights of the PPC and Large laser. Because of the ammo use. I can go for the heat damage but not the extra armor damage. The heat damage only lasts for one round.
If you dumped that it uses ammo at all use I think it would be perfect with out any of the extras.
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Cray
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Re: Plasma Rifle question...
[Re: Greyslayer]
#151306 - 07/17/08 06:33 PM (97.97.243.184)
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They are essentially fairly interesting if a little broken pieces of kit.
If you get plasma weapons to work better than plain old armor-busters, more power to you. You're generally better off with Clan pulse large lasers (much higher damage, thanks to their to-hit bonuses) or Inner Sphere heavy PPCs and LBX autocannons.
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The rifle does 10 point damage (5 point lots or am I confused with another weapon?... perhaps the HAGs in this case) plus 1d6 heat to mechs and nasty things to vehicles and infantry if not mechs .
The plasma rifle does 10 points of damage plus 1d6 heat to units that track heat (mechs, fighters). Note TW's maximum external heat input rules.
To other units, the plasma rifle does 10 points plus 2d6 damage. The damage is applied in 5-point increments, unlike with mechs/fighters.
If you're fighting vehicles, you're better off with LBX weapons firing cluster shots. Unless you're fighting thin-skinned vehicles, you'll crit them to death faster with LBX weapons than a plasma rifle can punch through their armor.
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Plasma Canons are the clans version and does straight heat (2d6 to mechs) and about 3d6 damage to vehicles I believe, they may do something extra as well but considering I haven't used them extensively I am a little lacking on their function.
Right, 2d6 heat to heat-tracking units (and damage if you exceed external heat input limits). Non-heat tracking units take 3d6 damage in 5pt groups.
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