Karagin
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Munchkin Mech
#156510 - 09/23/09 09:46 PM (72.178.75.99)
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Okay here is one example:
Code:
BattleMech Technical Readout
Type/Model: Dragoon
Tech: Mixed Tech / 3050
Config: Biped BattleMech
Rules: Level 3, Standard design
Mass: 85 tons
Chassis: BLKWL-55 Special Standard (IS)
Power Plant: 255 Strand Fusion (IS)
Walking Speed: 32.4 km/h
Maximum Speed: 54.0 km/h
Jump Jets: None
Jump Capacity: 0 meters
Armor Type: Chobham Max-Tec Standard
Armament:
4 Blackwell LasTech 5x Large Pulse Lasers (C)
1 C³ Slave Unit(IS)
1 ECM Suite (C)
Manufacturer: Blackwell Corporation
Location: Outreach / WD (BHI)
Communications System: Lynx-Shur 4.5
Targeting & Tracking System: Lockon 5000
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Type/Model: Dragoon
Mass: 85 tons
Equipment: Crits Mass
Int. Struct.: 130 pts Standard (IS) 0 8.50
Engine: 255 Fusion 6 13.00
Walking MP: 3
Running MP: 5
Jumping MP: 0
Heat Sinks: 21 Double (C) [42] 22 11.00
(Heat Sink Loc: 2 LA, 2 RA, 2 LT, 3 RT, 1 LL, 1 RL)
Gyro: 4 3.00
Small Cockpit, Life Supt.: 4 2.00
Actuators: L: Sh+UA+LA+H R: Sh+UA+LA+H 16 .00
Armor Factor: 263 (IS) 0 16.50
Internal Armor
Structure Value
Head: 3 9
Center Torso: 27 40
Center Torso (Rear): 14
L/R Side Torso: 18 27/27
L/R Side Torso (Rear): 9/9
L/R Arm: 14 28/28
L/R Leg: 18 36/36
Weapons and Equipment Loc Heat Ammo Crits Mass
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1 Large Pulse Laser (C) RA 10 2 6.00
1 Large Pulse Laser (C) LA 10 2 6.00
1 Large Pulse Laser (C) RT 10 2 6.00
1 Large Pulse Laser (C) LT 10 2 6.00
1 C³ Slave Unit (IS) HD 0 1 1.00
1 ECM Suite (C) HD 0 1 1.00
1 Targeting Computer (C)LT 5 5.00
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TOTALS: 40 67 85.00
Crits & Tons Left: 11 .00
Calculated Factors:
Total Cost: 8,387,160 C-Bills
Battle Value 2: 2,429 (old BV = 2,197)
Cost per BV2: 3,452.93
Weapon Value: 5,327 / 5,327 (Ratio = 2.19 / 2.19)
Damage Factors: SRDmg = 40; MRDmg = 39; LRDmg = 29
BattleForce2: MP: 3, Armor/Structure: 7/7
Damage PB/M/L: 7/5/5, Overheat: 0
Class: MA; Point Value: 24
Specials: ecm, c3s
Now toss in the uber warrior, you like Kai or Victor...or your average munckin player's best 0/0 warrior...
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Karagin
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Re: Munchkin Mech
[Re: Karagin]
#156511 - 09/23/09 09:52 PM (72.178.75.99)
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Code:
BattleMech Technical Readout
Type/Model: Bonebreaker
Tech: Clan / 3058
Config: Biped BattleMech
Rules: Level 2, Standard design
Mass: 100 tons
Chassis: Standard
Power Plant: 200 Fusion
Walking Speed: 21.6 km/h
Maximum Speed: 32.4 km/h
Jump Jets: None
Jump Capacity: 0 meters
Armor Type: Standard
Armament:
3 Gauss Rifles
2 Large Pulse Lasers
Manufacturer: (Unknown)
Location: (Unknown)
Communications System: (Unknown)
Targeting & Tracking System: (Unknown)
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Type/Model: Bonebreaker
Mass: 100 tons
Equipment: Crits Mass
Int. Struct.: 152 pts Standard 0 10.00
Engine: 200 Fusion 6 8.50
Walking MP: 2
Running MP: 3
Jumping MP: 0
Heat Sinks: 13 Double [26] 10 3.00
(Heat Sink Loc: 3 RT, 1 LL, 1 RL)
Gyro: 4 2.00
Cockpit, Life Supt., Sensors: 5 3.00
Actuators: L: Sh+UA+LA+H R: Sh+UA+LA+H 16 .00
Armor Factor: 307 pts Standard 0 19.50
Internal Armor
Structure Value
Head: 3 9
Center Torso: 31 46
Center Torso (Rear): 16
L/R Side Torso: 21 32/32
L/R Side Torso (Rear): 10/10
L/R Arm: 17 34/34
L/R Leg: 21 42/42
Weapons and Equipment Loc Heat Ammo Crits Mass
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1 Gauss Rifle RA 1 48 12 18.00
(Ammo Locations: 2 LA, 2 RA, 2 LT)
1 Gauss Rifle LA 1 6 12.00
1 Large Pulse Laser RT 10 2 6.00
1 Gauss Rifle LT 1 6 12.00
1 Large Pulse Laser CT 10 2 6.00
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TOTALS: 23 69 100.00
Crits & Tons Left: 9 .00
Calculated Factors:
Total Cost: 9,064,666 C-Bills
Battle Value 2: 2,559 (old BV = 2,368)
Cost per BV2: 3,542.27
Weapon Value: 4,703 / 4,703 (Ratio = 1.84 / 1.84)
Damage Factors: SRDmg = 59; MRDmg = 51; LRDmg = 33
BattleForce2: MP: 2, Armor/Structure: 8/8
Damage PB/M/L: 8/7/7, Overheat: 0
Class: MA; Point Value: 26
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Karagin
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Zandel_Corrin
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Reged: 10/06/04
Posts: 268
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Re: Munchkin Mech
[Re: Karagin]
#156512 - 09/23/09 11:58 PM (123.2.140.247)
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Yeah i get that those are munchkin designs....
what about a 50 ton with 2 ER PPC, 5-8-5 movement and 18 DHS tho?
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Venom
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Reged: 06/17/06
Posts: 256
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Re: Munchkin Mech
[Re: Zandel_Corrin]
#156514 - 09/24/09 03:18 AM (207.191.218.35)
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Sounds like a Nova A with mods
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Karagin
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Re: Munchkin Mech
[Re: Zandel_Corrin]
#156515 - 09/24/09 03:18 AM (72.178.75.99)
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If all it has are the two ERPPCs and a couple of secondaries, then no, the idea of building a mech that has two main guns and can fire them every turn is fine. Munchy starts when you give the mech the ability to fire everything and never pay for any heat build up. Plus your example is over sinked unless there are secondaries you didn't mention.
Flaws in a mech, be it designed in ones or how it ends up working out, give them character and set them apart from the other mechs out there.
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Karagin
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Re: Munchkin Mech
[Re: Venom]
#156516 - 09/24/09 03:19 AM (72.178.75.99)
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And the Nova can still over heat.
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Karagin
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OPER_DANG
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Reged: 09/16/09
Posts: 14
Loc: SE N. America, Terra
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Re: Munchkin Mech
[Re: Karagin]
#156578 - 10/06/09 11:24 AM (70.61.114.174)
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The SCP-1O, now that one has all kinds of "character". A bad roll and the GM gave me one  ...what a pain in the keister, but in campaign it forced you to hold your fire until you were sure of hitting, then find cover to cool off which also functioned to preserve your armor. Wait, hit & fade...Being allowed hull-down rules helps. I wanted to salvage a PPC or autocannon...but NO HANDS. Those Lancemates that didn't take cover...Bogarts with the salvage, man! I hated that Scorpion, but now it holds some odd bit of charm.
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