Karagin
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LAMs are coming back...
#156570 - 10/05/09 03:42 PM (72.178.75.99)
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Over on CBT, the new Battleblog says that LAMs are coming back with a new rule set...
With that in mind what changes would you folks like to see done with the LAMs and how they work and fight in the BT universe?
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LAMdriver
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Re: LAMs are coming back...
[Re: Karagin]
#156574 - 10/06/09 01:06 AM (68.118.31.98)
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Bring back the original artwork and design for the LAMs. I like the way they looked before they came UNSEEN (hell that is what got me playing BT in the first place), but just a general redesign of the mechs and fighter would be nice.
Now as to the fighter part, if they can transform into some of the existing aerofighter then so much the better.
As for the rules....i have no idea. I mean make them easy to understand, and balanced. I mean no 100 ton LAM. Keep them under 55 tons and make them combat effective and worth fielding in a striker lance.
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Frabby
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Re: LAMs are coming back...
[Re: LAMdriver]
#156575 - 10/06/09 02:35 AM (87.164.228.231)
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Technical nitpick: The LAMs are not "coming back", they've always been a canonical part of the universe, only some chose to sweep their existence under the rug. Much like the unseen artwork really (and coincidentially, the known LAMs are also unseen).
What Randall announced is that LAMs will get their ruled fixed/completed/however you call it. Which is a good thing.
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Karagin
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Re: LAMs are coming back...
[Re: Frabby]
#156576 - 10/06/09 03:25 AM (72.178.75.99)
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Uhmm...LAMs became Level 3 items under the rules given in the Tactical Handbook, they never got much more then that, they also went the way of the rest of the Unseen Artwork and thus fell out of use, not much has been done with them and given how poorly the whole Unseen issue was handled by Nystul, the impression that the mechs and LAMs were removed from the game when their artwork was removed, later they tried to fix that by saying no the stats were still legal and canon but not the artwork, so in a sense the LAMs are coming back into the canon since they are getting their rules revised and fixed up to be better and more up to par with everything else. If you noted, I did say they are getting their rules fix and thus would be back with new rules.
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OPER_DANG
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Re: LAMs are coming back...
[Re: Karagin]
#156589 - 10/07/09 02:23 PM (70.61.114.174)
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Yes LAMs fell off before the the legal issues with Harmony Gold, i.e. 3050 TR had most all the other "Unseen" Japanese designs still. The last appearence in a publication was the Tactical Handbook, 1994, and as mentioned, officialy made Level 3 rules only (still available except in official type competitions). I think there was some fluff about the Clans capturing the last of the LAM parts plants and dismantling or refitting them, essientially "sweeping them under the rug" you might say.
LAMs may have complicated the plays of turn some, but maybe the staff found, like most players in my experience, that LAMs just were not worth the loss of 5 tons of armor and/or weapons. For most if not all situations, fast and jump capable Light Mechs and/or Aerospace support could get the job done better, faster, cheaper. AS dropped bombs are, well, "'Da Bomb!" Then VTOLs and hovertanks were "commonly" available and "cheap". But maybe a LAM could be used strategically since they do tend to be the first to draw concentrated fire... 
Hey, I loved Robotech/Macross too, and the Veritechs were wowie cool. But if you try to create a balanced game play, they can't transform for "free". Even with some rule modifications, I think they won't really come back for the reasons they fell off to begin with.
Edited by OPER_DANG (10/07/09 02:26 PM)
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