CYBRN4CR
01/29/10 11:30 PM
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Continued from the Various Upgraded Designs thread.
This thread examines the Inner Sphere Honor Guard's Griffin design and use from 3050 to 3081 and beyond.
History:
After suffering heavy losses and losing Gen. Alexander (the old CO) to Clan Jade Falcon forces on Coventry, the ISHG retreated to its home in Caselton to lick its wounds. On the way there, Alex's son Jonas took command, and restructured the ISHG's forces. Not relying on just one tactic to counter the Clans, Jonas wanted to support the use of Arrow IV and dedicated scout mechs with units that can strike at extreme range, but not require ammo. This has led to a unit-wide focus on mech sniping, particularly with ERPPCs, and network tactics.
For the medium mech, Jonas wanted a heavy, fast and mobile design, that was well protected and built for the ERPPC. The design that fulfilled most of these requirements was the Griffin GRF-3M, but was not fast enough. To rectify this, Jonas had the missile launcher removed and had a 330XL engine installed, along with a few other changes. Tasking some nearby manufacturers on Tikonov to help make the design, the ISHG produced the GRF-3-1 Griffin.
Below are the MegaMek condensed readouts of the designs (less redundancy and clutter).
Code:
Griffin GRF-3-1 (~3050)
55 tons IS TW non-box set
Movement: 6/9/6
Engine: 330 XL
Heat Sinks: 12 [24]
Internal: 91 (Endo Steel)
Armor: 185/185 (Ferro-Fibrous)
HD: 3 9
CT: 18 26 ( 10)
RT: 13 18 ( 8)
LT: 13 18 ( 8)
RA: 9 18
LA: 9 18
RL: 13 26
LL: 13 26
Medium Laser [LA] 3 Heat
Medium Pulse Laser [LA] 4 Heat
Medium Pulse Laser [LA] 4 Heat
ER PPC [RA] 15 Heat
TAG [HD] 0 Heat
Targeting Computer [RT]
C3 Slave [CT]
BV: 1,706 Cost: 12,579,025 Cbills
This design served the unit well, and has not undergone any major changes until the Jihad years, when the WoB conflict and emerging technology prompted Jonas to upgrade the design. This resulted in the GRF-3-2.
During the design process, there was a crucial turning point with the advent of stealth armor. With most of the unit's pilots having high accuracy at that point, there was less of a need for network tactics, and more a need to reduce the return fire which was hurting the unit's effectiveness. Thus, the unit removed the C3 systems and heavy Targeting Computers in favor of the stealth system. Thankfully, the pilots didn't mind, and actually retained some of the networking tactics from before, despite the loss of the shared telemetry.
Code:
Griffin GRF-3-2 (~3070)
55 tons IS advanced
Movement: 6/9/6
Engine: 330 XL
Heat Sinks: 14 [28]
Targ Sys: Long Range Targeting
Internal: 91 (Endo Steel)
Armor: 185/185 (Stealth)
HD: 3 9
CT: 18 26 ( 10)
RT: 13 18 ( 8)
LT: 13 18 ( 8)
RA: 9 18
LA: 9 18
RL: 13 26
LL: 13 26
Medium Laser [LA] 3 Heat
Medium Laser [LA] 3 Heat
Medium Laser [LA] 3 Heat
Medium Laser [LA] 3 Heat
ER PPC [RA] 15 Heat
TAG [HD] 0 Heat
Stealth [LL/...]
Guardian ECM Suite [CT]
BV: 1,813 Cost: 13,078,125 Cbills
When the Jihad ended in 3081, the unit upgraded again with technology that builds upon the Jihad designs, resulting in very advanced designs, sporting technology such as reverse-engineered Void Sig systems, perfected Angel ECMs and CASEIIs. Below is the final ISHG Griffin design, the GRF-3-X.
Code:
Griffin GRF-3-X (~3081)
55 tons IS experimental
Movement: 6/9/6
Engine: 330 XL
Heat Sinks: 15 [30]
Gyro: Compact Gyro
Targ Sys: Long Range Targeting
Internal: 91 (Composite)
Armor: 185/185 (Ferro-Fibrous)
HD: 3 9
CT: 18 26 ( 10)
RT: 13 18 ( 8)
LT: 13 18 ( 8)
RA: 9 18
LA: 9 18
RL: 13 26
LL: 13 26
Medium Laser [LA] 3 Heat
Medium Laser [LA] 3 Heat
ER PPC [RA] 15 Heat
TAG [HD] 0 Heat
Void Signature System [LL/...]
Angel ECM Suite [CT]
BV: 1,698 Cost: 17,093,590 Cbills
To this day (Dark Age), the ISHG serves the Republic of the Sphere as a peacekeeping force.
More mechs to follow in separate threads.
May the discussing begin! 
Edited by CYBRN4CR (01/30/10 12:49 AM)
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Karagin
01/30/10 03:49 AM
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Your mechs do have a nice pattern of upgrades thus showing the evolution of them to higher advanced product.
This one is a decent take on the Griffin and while it does not radically change the weapon loadout, it does offer more bang for the buck.
And by the way, have the individual posts is easier to read the info you have posted. 
Karagin
Given time and plenty of paper, a philosopher can prove anything.
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CYBRN4CR
01/30/10 12:27 PM
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Thanks! I do try to make the upgrades make sense and feel believable in a canon environment. All my work researching the Battletech universe for the fluff of my fanon merc unit seems to be paying off!
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CYBRN4CR
01/31/10 10:35 PM
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Errata: The Jade Falcon assault on Coventry was in 3058, IS Targeting Computers came out in 3062 at the start of the Fed Com civil war, and the ISHG's first batch upgrade wasn't until 3068 around the start of the Jihad. This means the "1" variant is a 3062 design, and the "2" variant is a 3068 design.
Guess I needed to check the history more. 
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CYBRN4CR
02/28/10 07:10 AM
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Just updating this thread with my new thoughts on the GRF-3-X design. This design removes the compact gyro it previously had, exchanges a heatsink for another medium laser, shuffles some components around, and adds an AES system in the ERPPC arm to make the mech more effective at its job.
Code:
Griffin GRF-3-X
Mass: 55 tons
Tech Base: Inner Sphere
Chassis Config: Biped
Rules Level: Experimental Tech
Era: Jihad Era (End)
Tech Rating/Era Availability: F/X-X-F
Production Year: 3081
Cost: 16,428,915 C-Bills
Battle Value: 2,078
Chassis: Unknown Composite Structure
Power Plant: Unknown 330 Fusion XL Engine
Walking Speed: 64.5 km/h
Maximum Speed: 96.75 km/h
Jump Jets: Unknown
Jump Capacity: 180 meters
Armor: Unknown Ferro-Fibrous
Armament:
1 ER PPC
3 Medium Lasers
1 Angel ECM
1 TAG
Manufacturer: Unknown
Primary Factory: Unknown
Communications System: Unknown
Targeting and Tracking System: Unknown
================================================================================
Equipment Type Rating Mass
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Internal Structure: Composite Structure 91 points 3.00
Engine: XL Engine 330 12.50
Walking MP: 6
Running MP: 9
Jumping MP: 6 (Standard)
Jump Jet Locations: 3 LT, 3 RT 3.00
Heat Sinks: Double 14(28) 4.00
Heat Sink Locations: 1 RT
Gyro: Standard Gyro 4.00
Cockpit: Standard 3.00
Actuators: L: SH+UA+LA+H R: SH+UA+LA+H
Armor: Ferro-Fibrous AV - 185 10.50
Armor Locations: 1 CT, 3 LT, 2 RT, 4 LA, 2 RA, 1 LL, 1 RL
Internal Armor
Structure Factor
Head 3 9
Center Torso 18 28
Center Torso (rear) 8
L/R Torso 13 18
L/R Torso (rear) 8
L/R Arm 9 18
L/R Leg 13 26
================================================================================
Equipment Location Heat Critical Mass
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ER PPC RA 15 3 7.00
A.E.S. RA - 2 2.00
3 Medium Lasers LA 9 3 3.00
Angel ECM LT 0 2 2.00
TAG HD 0 1 1.00
Void Signature System * 10 7 0.00
Free Critical Slots: 0
* The Void Signature System occupies 1 slot in every location except the HD.
BattleForce Statistics
MV S (+0) M (+2) L (+4) E (+6) Wt. Ov Armor: 6 Points: 21
6j 3 3 2 0 2 0 Structure: 3
Special Abilities: MAS, AECM, ECM, TAG, ENE, SRCH, ES, SOA
Edited by CYBRN4CR (02/28/10 08:58 PM)
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Karagin
02/28/10 10:48 AM
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Your era is off given the date you gave this.
Karagin
Given time and plenty of paper, a philosopher can prove anything.
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CYBRN4CR
02/28/10 08:36 PM
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Yeah, SSW has this weird thing about dates. It lists anything from 3051-312x as Clan Invasion years. 
Not much I can do about that, programwise, but I suppose I can edit it manually.
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Prince_of_Darkness
03/01/10 10:14 AM
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Quote:
Yeah, SSW has this weird thing about dates. It lists anything from 3051-312x as Clan Invasion years.
Probably because we forgot to put any others in
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LostInSpace
03/03/10 02:35 PM
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Quote:
Your era is off given the date you gave this.
It's not. The "Era" given is based strictly off the equipment availability code given in Tech Manual. From that perspective, any time after 3050 is considered the Clan Invasion period.
So you could say that the "Equipment Era" is Clan Invasion, whereas the 'Mech's "Play Era" is Jihad.
Canopian, Rim Worlder, Oregonian...
A true son of the Periphery.
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CYBRN4CR
03/03/10 03:06 PM
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Huh. Didn't know that. Thanks Lost.
...
I find it odd that ever since my old Dire Wolf thread, there has been more comments about related tangents than about anything concerning the design, its effectiveness, its evolution, or whether there are suitable replacements that fit the unit's alliegiance and philosophy. In fact, I'd say the Summoner thread has had the best discussion so far.
Anyway, comment if you wish.
Cyb
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Karagin
03/03/10 04:14 PM
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Yawn.
Karagin
Given time and plenty of paper, a philosopher can prove anything.
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CYBRN4CR
06/06/10 11:17 PM
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After some playtesting, I decided to completely redesign all of my unit's mechs. Taking heat and range into consideration, these redesigns reflect the times when they were produced better than their previous incarnations.
Well enough of that, onto my designs!
Assuming my unit used the generic -3M model before 3062, the upgrade takes the -3M and creates an early version of the -6S with a C3 Slave and TAG instead of the two medium lasers.
Code:
Griffin GRF-3-2
Mass: 55 tons
Tech Base: Inner Sphere
Chassis Config: Biped
Rules Level: Tournament Legal
Era: Clan Invasion
Tech Rating/Era Availability: E/X-X-E
Production Year: 3062
Cost: 9,436,700 C-Bills
Battle Value: 1,599
Chassis: Unknown Endo-Steel
Power Plant: Unknown 275 Light Fusion Engine
Walking Speed: 53.75 km/h
Maximum Speed: 86.0 km/h
Jump Jets: Unknown
Jump Capacity: 150 meters
Armor: Unknown Ferro-Fibrous w/ CASE
Armament:
1 ER PPC
1 LRM-15
1 TAG
1 C3 Computer (Slave)
Manufacturer: Unknown
Primary Factory: Unknown
Communications System: Unknown
Targeting and Tracking System: Unknown
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Equipment Type Rating Mass
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Internal Structure: Endo-Steel 91 points 3.00
Internal Locations: 2 LT, 1 RT, 7 LA, 4 RA
Engine: Light Fusion Engine 275 12.00
Walking MP: 5
Running MP: 8
Jumping MP: 5 Standard
Jump Jet Locations: 1 CT, 2 LT, 2 RT 2.50
Heat Sinks: Double 11(22) 1.00
Gyro: Standard Gyro 3.00
Cockpit: Standard 3.00
Actuators: L: SH+UA+LA R: SH+UA+LA
Armor: Ferro-Fibrous AV - 185 10.50
Armor Locations: 2 LT, 4 RT, 2 LA, 2 RA, 2 LL, 2 RL
CASE Locations: 1 LT 0.50
Internal Armor
Structure Factor
Head 3 9
Center Torso 18 26
Center Torso (rear) 10
L/R Torso 13 18
L/R Torso (rear) 8
L/R Arm 9 18
L/R Leg 13 26
================================================================================
Equipment Location Heat Critical Mass
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ER PPC RA 15 3 7.00
LRM-15 RT 5 3 7.00
C3 Computer (Slave) CT 0 1 1.00
TAG HD 0 1 1.00
@LRM-15 (Semi-G) (24) LT - 3 3.00
Free Critical Slots: 0
BattleForce Statistics
MV S (+0) M (+2) L (+4) E (+6) Wt. Ov Armor: 6 Points: 16
5j 2 2 2 0 2 0 Structure: 3
Special Abilities: TAG, C3S, CASE, SRCH, ES, SOA
Once the -6S came out, the ISHG wanted something to protect the light support mech a bit more with its mission, so the upgrade gives the -6S Stealth armor with a good heat regimen to follow. Unfortunately, the C3 had to be removed and the cockpit made smaller to grant enough tonnage to mount the system. Still, the pilots prefer the added safety, despite the extra precautions they have to take.
Code:
Griffin GRF-6-3
Mass: 55 tons
Tech Base: Inner Sphere
Chassis Config: Biped
Rules Level: Tournament Legal
Era: Clan Invasion
Tech Rating/Era Availability: E/X-X-E
Production Year: 3070
Cost: 9,899,840 C-Bills
Battle Value: 1,715
Chassis: Unknown Endo-Steel
Power Plant: Unknown 275 Light Fusion Engine
Walking Speed: 53.75 km/h
Maximum Speed: 86.0 km/h
Jump Jets: Unknown
Jump Capacity: 150 meters
Armor: Unknown Stealth Armor w/ CASE
Armament:
1 ER PPC
1 LRM-15
1 TAG
1 Guardian ECM Suite
Manufacturer: Unknown
Primary Factory: Unknown
Communications System: Unknown
Targeting and Tracking System: Unknown
================================================================================
Equipment Type Rating Mass
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Internal Structure: Endo-Steel 91 points 3.00
Internal Locations: 1 HD, 1 CT, 2 LT, 1 RT, 6 LA, 3 RA
Engine: Light Fusion Engine 275 12.00
Walking MP: 5
Running MP: 8
Jumping MP: 5 Standard
Jump Jet Locations: 1 CT, 2 LT, 2 RT 2.50
Heat Sinks: Double 11(22) 1.00
Gyro: Standard Gyro 3.00
Cockpit: Small 2.00
Actuators: L: SH+UA+LA+H R: SH+UA+LA+H
Armor: Stealth Armor AV - 184 11.50
Armor Locations: 2 LT, 2 RT, 2 LA, 2 RA, 2 LL, 2 RL
CASE Locations: 1 LT 0.50
Internal Armor
Structure Factor
Head 3 9
Center Torso 18 26
Center Torso (rear) 9
L/R Torso 13 18
L/R Torso (rear) 8
L/R Arm 9 18
L/R Leg 13 26
================================================================================
Equipment Location Heat Critical Mass
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ER PPC RA 15 3 7.00
LRM-15 RT 5 3 7.00
Guardian ECM Suite RT 0 2 1.50
TAG HD 0 1 1.00
@LRM-15 (Semi-G) (24) LT - 3 3.00
Free Critical Slots: 0
BattleForce Statistics
MV S (+0) M (+2) L (+4) E (+6) Wt. Ov Armor: 6 Points: 17
5j 2 2 2 0 2 0 Structure: 3
Special Abilities: ECM, STL, TAG, CASE, SRCH, ES, SOA
When the ISHG was able to capture and produce working Void Sigs and Angel ECMs, all the units mechs were upgraded to the max with other perfected technology to create a force that can strike virtually undetected. Unfortunately, the Jihad ended before they could be put to use against the WoB. However, they served the unit well in the years that followed.
Here is the final upgrade.
Code:
Griffin GRF-6-X
Mass: 55 tons
Tech Base: Inner Sphere
Chassis Config: Biped
Rules Level: Experimental Tech
Era: Clan Invasion
Tech Rating/Era Availability: F/X-X-F
Production Year: 3081
Cost: 14,898,590 C-Bills
Battle Value: 1,813
Chassis: Unknown Composite Structure
Power Plant: Unknown 275 Light Fusion Engine
Walking Speed: 53.75 km/h
Maximum Speed: 86.0 km/h
Jump Jets: Unknown
Jump Capacity: 150 meters
Armor: Unknown Heavy Ferro-Fibrous
Armament:
1 ER PPC
1 LRM-15
1 TAG
1 Angel ECM
Manufacturer: Unknown
Primary Factory: Unknown
Communications System: Unknown
Targeting and Tracking System: Unknown
================================================================================
Equipment Type Rating Mass
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Internal Structure: Composite Structure 91 points 3.00
Engine: Light Fusion Engine 275 12.00
Walking MP: 5
Running MP: 8
Jumping MP: 5 Standard
Jump Jet Locations: 1 CT, 2 LT, 2 RT 2.50
Heat Sinks: Double 11(22) 1.00
Gyro: Compact Gyro 4.50
Cockpit: Small 2.00
Actuators: L: SH+UA+LA+H R: SH+UA+LA+H
Armor: Heavy Ferro-Fibrous AV - 178 9.00
Armor Locations: 1 HD, 2 CT, 3 LT, 2 RT, 7 LA, 4 RA, 1 LL, 1 RL
CASE II Locations: 1 LT 1.00
Internal Armor
Structure Factor
Head 3 9
Center Torso 18 24
Center Torso (rear) 9
L/R Torso 13 18
L/R Torso (rear) 8
L/R Arm 9 18
L/R Leg 13 24
================================================================================
Equipment Location Heat Critical Mass
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ER PPC RA 15 3 7.00
LRM-15 RT 5 3 7.00
Angel ECM RT 0 2 2.00
TAG HD 0 1 1.00
@LRM-15 (Semi-G) (24) LT - 3 3.00
Void Signature System * 10 7 0.00
Free Critical Slots: 0
* The Void Signature System occupies 1 slot in every location except the HD.
BattleForce Statistics
MV S (+0) M (+2) L (+4) E (+6) Wt. Ov Armor: 6 Points: 18
5j 2 2 2 0 2 0 Structure: 3
Special Abilities: MAS, TAG, AECM, CASEII, SRCH, ES, SOA
I don't think I can do too much more to this mech. But if you guys see any room for improvement, feel free to let me know. 
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