mechamaniac12
02/14/11 01:30 PM
88.108.7.229
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Heres the Mark 2 version of the Shadow cat with variants
BattleMech Technical Readout
Type/Model: Shadow Cat II Prime
Tech: Clan / 3050
Config: Biped OmniMech
Rules: Level 2, Standard design
Mass: 65 tons
Chassis: Endo Steel
Power Plant: 390 XL Fusion
Walking Speed: 64.8 km/h
Maximum Speed: 97.2 km/h
Jump Jets: 2 Standard Jump Jets
Jump Capacity: 60 meters
Armor Type: Ferro-Fibrous
Armament:
1 Small Pulse Laser
1 ER Micro Laser
1 ER Small Laser
1 Large Pulse Laser
1 Adv. Tact. Msl. 9
1 Medium Pulse Laser
1 Light Machine Gun
Manufacturer: (Unknown)
Location: (Unknown)
Communications System: (Unknown)
Targeting & Tracking System: (Unknown)
==Overview:==
Based on the original Shado cat The Jade Falcons sought to upgrade the desi
to compeat with some of more heavier mechs of the inner shpear
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Type/Model: Shadow Cat II Prime
Mass: 65 tons
Equipment: Crits Mass
Int. Struct.: 104 pts Endo Steel 7 3.50
(Endo Steel Loc: 1 LA, 1 RA, 2 LT, 1 RT, 1 LL, 1 RL)
Engine: 390 XL 10 23.00
Walking MP: 6
Running MP: 9
Jumping MP: 2
Heat Sinks: 10 Double [20] 0 .00
Gyro: 4 4.00
Cockpit, Life Supt., Sensors: 5 3.00
Actuators: L: Sh+UA+LA+H R: Sh+UA+LA+H 16 .00
Armor Factor: 211 pts Ferro-Fibrous 7 11.00
(Armor Crit Loc: 1 LA, 1 RA, 1 LT, 2 RT, 1 LL, 1 RL)
Internal Armor
Structure Value
Head: 3 9
Center Torso: 21 32
Center Torso (Rear): 10
L/R Side Torso: 15 22/22
L/R Side Torso (Rear): 8/8
L/R Arm: 10 20/20
L/R Leg: 15 30/30
Weapons and Equipment Loc Heat Ammo Crits Mass
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1 Small Pulse Laser RA 2 1 1.00
1 ER Micro Laser RA 1 1 .25
1 ER Small Laser RA 2 1 .50
1 Large Pulse Laser LA 10 2 6.00
1 Adv. Tact. Msl. 9 RT 6 21 7 8.00
(Ammo Locations: 3 RT)
1 Medium Pulse Laser LT 4 1 2.00
1 Light Machine Gun LT 0 100 2 .75
(Ammo Locations: 1 LT)
2 Standard Jump Jets: 2 2.00
(Jump Jet Loc: 2 CT)
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TOTALS: 25 66 65.00
Crits & Tons Left: 12 .00
Calculated Factors:
Total Cost: 20,230,856 C-Bills
Battle Value: 1,787
Cost per BV: 11,321.13
Weapon Value: 2,039 / 2,039 (Ratio = 1.14 / 1.14)
Damage Factors: SRDmg = 24; MRDmg = 19; LRDmg = 7
BattleForce2: MP: 6, Armor/Structure: 5/4
Damage PB/M/L: 6/4/2, Overheat: 0
Class: MH; Point Value: 18
Specials: omni
Alt.A Config
BattleMech Technical Readout
Type/Model: Shadow Cat II Alt.A
Tech: Clan / 3050
Config: Biped OmniMech
Rules: Level 2, Standard design
Mass: 65 tons
Chassis: Endo Steel
Power Plant: 390 XL Fusion
Walking Speed: 64.8 km/h
Maximum Speed: 97.2 km/h
Jump Jets: 2 Standard Jump Jets
Jump Capacity: 60 meters
Armor Type: Ferro-Fibrous
Armament:
1 Heavy Small Laser
3 ER Medium Lasers
1 Adv. Tact. Msl. 9
1 Ultra AC/5
Manufacturer: (Unknown)
Location: (Unknown)
Communications System: (Unknown)
Targeting & Tracking System: (Unknown)
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Type/Model: Shadow Cat II Alt.A
Mass: 65 tons
Equipment: Crits Mass
Int. Struct.: 104 pts Endo Steel 7 3.50
(Endo Steel Loc: 1 LA, 1 RA, 1 LT, 2 RT, 1 LL, 1 RL)
Engine: 390 XL 10 23.00
Walking MP: 6
Running MP: 9
Jumping MP: 2
Heat Sinks: 10 Double [20] 0 .00
Gyro: 4 4.00
Cockpit, Life Supt., Sensors: 5 3.00
Actuators: L: Sh+UA R: Sh+UA 12 .00
Armor Factor: 211 pts Ferro-Fibrous 7 11.00
(Armor Crit Loc: 1 HD, 1 LA, 1 RA, 1 LT, 1 RT, 1 LL, 1 RL)
Internal Armor
Structure Value
Head: 3 9
Center Torso: 21 32
Center Torso (Rear): 10
L/R Side Torso: 15 22/22
L/R Side Torso (Rear): 8/8
L/R Arm: 10 20/20
L/R Leg: 15 30/30
Weapons and Equipment Loc Heat Ammo Crits Mass
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1 Heavy Small Laser RA 3 1 .50
3 ER Medium Lasers LA 15 3 3.00
1 Adv. Tact. Msl. 9 RT 6 14 6 7.00
(Ammo Locations: 2 RT)
1 Ultra AC/5 LT 1 20 4 8.00
(Ammo Locations: 1 LT)
2 Standard Jump Jets: 2 2.00
(Jump Jet Loc: 2 CT)
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TOTALS: 26 61 65.00
Crits & Tons Left: 17 .00
Calculated Factors:
Total Cost: 20,436,281 C-Bills
Battle Value: 1,762
Cost per BV: 11,598.34
Weapon Value: 2,169 / 2,169 (Ratio = 1.23 / 1.23)
Damage Factors: SRDmg = 26; MRDmg = 20; LRDmg = 5
BattleForce2: MP: 6, Armor/Structure: 5/4
Damage PB/M/L: 6/4/1, Overheat: 1
Class: MH; Point Value: 18
Specials: omni
Alt.B
BattleMech Technical Readout
Type/Model: Shadow Cat II Alt.B
Tech: Clan / 3050
Config: Biped OmniMech
Rules: Level 2, Standard design
Mass: 65 tons
Chassis: Endo Steel
Power Plant: 390 XL Fusion
Walking Speed: 64.8 km/h
Maximum Speed: 97.2 km/h
Jump Jets: 2 Standard Jump Jets
Jump Capacity: 60 meters
Armor Type: Ferro-Fibrous
Armament:
1 ER Medium Laser
1 ER Small Laser
1 Large Pulse Laser
1 Adv. Tact. Msl. 9
4 Heavy Machine Guns
Manufacturer: (Unknown)
Location: (Unknown)
Communications System: (Unknown)
Targeting & Tracking System: (Unknown)
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Type/Model: Shadow Cat II Alt.B
Mass: 65 tons
Equipment: Crits Mass
Int. Struct.: 104 pts Endo Steel 7 3.50
(Endo Steel Loc: 1 LA, 1 RA, 1 LT, 2 RT, 1 LL, 1 RL)
Engine: 390 XL 10 23.00
Walking MP: 6
Running MP: 9
Jumping MP: 2
Heat Sinks: 10 Double [20] 0 .00
Gyro: 4 4.00
Cockpit, Life Supt., Sensors: 5 3.00
Actuators: L: Sh+UA R: Sh+UA 12 .00
Armor Factor: 211 pts Ferro-Fibrous 7 11.00
(Armor Crit Loc: 1 LA, 1 RA, 2 LT, 1 RT, 1 LL, 1 RL)
Internal Armor
Structure Value
Head: 3 9
Center Torso: 21 32
Center Torso (Rear): 10
L/R Side Torso: 15 22/22
L/R Side Torso (Rear): 8/8
L/R Arm: 10 20/20
L/R Leg: 15 30/30
Weapons and Equipment Loc Heat Ammo Crits Mass
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1 ER Medium Laser RA 5 1 1.00
1 ER Small Laser RA 2 1 .50
1 Large Pulse Laser LA 10 2 6.00
1 Adv. Tact. Msl. 9 RT 6 14 6 7.00
(Ammo Locations: 2 RT)
4 Heavy Machine Guns LT 0 200 6 4.00
(Ammo Locations: 2 LT)
2 Standard Jump Jets: 2 2.00
(Jump Jet Loc: 2 CT)
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TOTALS: 23 63 65.00
Crits & Tons Left: 15 .00
Calculated Factors:
Total Cost: 20,084,110 C-Bills
Battle Value: 1,757
Cost per BV: 11,430.91
Weapon Value: 2,094 / 2,094 (Ratio = 1.19 / 1.19)
Damage Factors: SRDmg = 24; MRDmg = 18; LRDmg = 7
BattleForce2: MP: 6, Armor/Structure: 5/4
Damage PB/M/L: 7/4/2, Overheat: 0
Class: MH; Point Value: 18
Specials: omni
Alt.C
BattleMech Technical Readout
Type/Model: Shadow Cat II Alt.C
Tech: Clan / 3050
Config: Biped OmniMech
Rules: Level 2, Standard design
Mass: 65 tons
Chassis: Endo Steel
Power Plant: 390 XL Fusion
Walking Speed: 64.8 km/h
Maximum Speed: 97.2 km/h
Jump Jets: 2 Standard Jump Jets
Jump Capacity: 60 meters
Armor Type: Ferro-Fibrous
Armament:
2 ER Medium Lasers
1 ER PPC
1 Adv. Tact. Msl. 9
2 Medium Pulse Lasers
Manufacturer: (Unknown)
Location: (Unknown)
Communications System: (Unknown)
Targeting & Tracking System: (Unknown)
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Type/Model: Shadow Cat II Alt.C
Mass: 65 tons
Equipment: Crits Mass
Int. Struct.: 104 pts Endo Steel 7 3.50
(Endo Steel Loc: 1 LA, 1 RA, 1 LT, 2 RT, 1 LL, 1 RL)
Engine: 390 XL 10 23.00
Walking MP: 6
Running MP: 9
Jumping MP: 2
Heat Sinks: 10 Double [20] 0 .00
Gyro: 4 4.00
Cockpit, Life Supt., Sensors: 5 3.00
Actuators: L: Sh+UA R: Sh+UA 12 .00
Armor Factor: 202 pts Ferro-Fibrous 7 10.50
(Armor Crit Loc: 1 LA, 1 RA, 2 LT, 1 RT, 1 LL, 1 RL)
Internal Armor
Structure Value
Head: 3 9
Center Torso: 21 29
Center Torso (Rear): 10
L/R Side Torso: 15 22/22
L/R Side Torso (Rear): 7/7
L/R Arm: 10 19/19
L/R Leg: 15 29/29
Weapons and Equipment Loc Heat Ammo Crits Mass
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2 ER Medium Lasers RA 10 2 2.00
1 ER PPC LA 15 2 6.00
1 Adv. Tact. Msl. 9 RT 6 14 6 7.00
(Ammo Locations: 2 RT)
2 Medium Pulse Lasers LT 8 2 4.00
2 Standard Jump Jets: 2 2.00
(Jump Jet Loc: 2 CT)
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TOTALS: 39 59 65.00
Crits & Tons Left: 19 .00
Calculated Factors:
Total Cost: 20,541,469 C-Bills
Battle Value: 2,007
Cost per BV: 10,234.91
Weapon Value: 2,192 / 2,192 (Ratio = 1.09 / 1.09)
Damage Factors: SRDmg = 25; MRDmg = 17; LRDmg = 7
BattleForce2: MP: 6, Armor/Structure: 5/4
Damage PB/M/L: 4/3/1, Overheat: 4
Class: MH; Point Value: 20
Specials: omni
And Finally Alt.D
BattleMech Technical Readout
Type/Model: Shadow Cat II Alt.D
Tech: Clan / 3050
Config: Biped OmniMech
Rules: Level 2, Standard design
Mass: 65 tons
Chassis: Endo Steel
Power Plant: 390 XL Fusion
Walking Speed: 64.8 km/h
Maximum Speed: 97.2 km/h
Jump Jets: 2 Standard Jump Jets
Jump Capacity: 60 meters
Armor Type: Ferro-Fibrous
Armament:
1 Large Pulse Laser
1 Heavy Medium Laser
1 ER Medium Laser
1 Adv. Tact. Msl. 9
1 Small Pulse Laser
1 Machine Gun
Manufacturer: (Unknown)
Location: (Unknown)
Communications System: (Unknown)
Targeting & Tracking System: (Unknown)
==Overview:==
Based on the original Shado cat The Jade Falcons sought to upgrade the desi
to compeat with some of more heavier mechs of the inner shpear
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Type/Model: Shadow Cat II Alt.D
Mass: 65 tons
Equipment: Crits Mass
Int. Struct.: 104 pts Endo Steel 7 3.50
(Endo Steel Loc: 1 LA, 1 RA, 2 LT, 1 RT, 1 LL, 1 RL)
Engine: 390 XL 10 23.00
Walking MP: 6
Running MP: 9
Jumping MP: 2
Heat Sinks: 10 Double [20] 0 .00
Gyro: 4 4.00
Cockpit, Life Supt., Sensors: 5 3.00
Actuators: L: Sh+UA+LA+H R: Sh+UA+LA+H 16 .00
Armor Factor: 202 pts Ferro-Fibrous 7 10.50
(Armor Crit Loc: 1 LA, 1 RA, 1 LT, 2 RT, 1 LL, 1 RL)
Internal Armor
Structure Value
Head: 3 9
Center Torso: 21 29
Center Torso (Rear): 10
L/R Side Torso: 15 22/22
L/R Side Torso (Rear): 7/7
L/R Arm: 10 19/19
L/R Leg: 15 29/29
Weapons and Equipment Loc Heat Ammo Crits Mass
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1 Large Pulse Laser RA 10 2 6.00
1 Heavy Medium Laser RA 7 2 1.00
1 ER Medium Laser LA 5 1 1.00
1 Adv. Tact. Msl. 9 RT 6 21 7 8.00
(Ammo Locations: 3 RT)
1 Small Pulse Laser LT 2 1 1.00
1 Machine Gun LT 0 300 3 1.75
(Ammo Locations: 2 LT)
2 Standard Jump Jets: 2 2.00
(Jump Jet Loc: 2 CT)
--------------------------------------------------------
TOTALS: 30 67 64.75
Crits & Tons Left: 11 .25
Calculated Factors:
Total Cost: 20,416,481 C-Bills
Battle Value: 1,715
Cost per BV: 11,904.65
Weapon Value: 1,827 / 1,827 (Ratio = 1.07 / 1.07)
Damage Factors: SRDmg = 22; MRDmg = 18; LRDmg = 7
BattleForce2: MP: 6, Armor/Structure: 5/4
Damage PB/M/L: 5/3/1, Overheat: 2
Class: MH; Point Value: 17
Specials: omni
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mechamaniac12
02/14/11 01:40 PM
88.108.7.229
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Let the scruteny begin!
Edited by mechamaniac12 (02/14/11 01:40 PM)
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KitK
02/15/11 02:44 PM
128.233.4.141
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You might state in 1 sentence for each variant what its role is suppose to be. To me each individual design seems to lack focus and seems scattered. Although it is clear that ATMs are important and it's hell-bent to kill infantry at short range, making them all seem similar in the sense if finding ways to mount a strange weapons assortment.
Quote:
Based on the original Shado cat The Jade Falcons sought to upgrade the desi to compeat with some of more heavier mechs of the inner shpear
This is an odd goal to me because a 45 ton Clan mech, in my estimation, should be able to hold its own (in a duel) against 90 ton Succession War era 'Sphere mechs and 60-65 ton Clan Invasion era 'Sphere mechs.
The origional S-Cat is not unusually fast for its weight, but gets its edge from MASC. By pushing your MK2's speed to match the S-Cat your engine weight kills your fire power. I understand why you want the speed, but if it's suppose to be a heavy mech you should maybe compare its movement profile with heavy mechs rather than mediums.
I know that 2 jump jets can have a tactical use in some specific situations, and putting more on kills your fire power @ 2 tons a pop, but 2!? You might as well go 0 or 4-6. The interesting conundrum about going with 6 is that you'll reach the point where the S-Cat can do the same job better and cheaper (thus 5/8/5 with MASC might be better).
If you want to keep the speed up, you can use the Linebacker as a benchmark. Same weight and speed on the technical end. And in-universe as a Clan Wolf mech, this Jade Falcon upgrade will have to be able to meet it.
KK
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mechamaniac12
02/16/11 08:18 AM
88.108.7.229
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Thanks for the advice. Feel free to Check my cougar MKII designs as well.
So for PRime Something like this?
BattleMech Technical Readout
Type/Model: Shadow Cat II Prime
Tech: Clan / 3050
Config: Biped OmniMech
Rules: Level 2, Standard design
Mass: 65 tons
Chassis: Endo Steel
Power Plant: 325 XL Fusion
Walking Speed: 54.0 km/h
Maximum Speed: 86.4 [108.0] km/h
Jump Jets: 5 Standard Jump Jets
Jump Capacity: 150 meters
Armor Type: Ferro-Fibrous
Armament:
1 ER Large Laser
3 ER Medium Lasers
1 ER Small Laser
1 Large Pulse Laser
1 Adv. Tact. Msl. 9
1 ECM Suite
Manufacturer: (Unknown)
Location: (Unknown)
Communications System: (Unknown)
Targeting & Tracking System: (Unknown)
==Overview:==
Based on the original Shado cat The Jade Falcons sought to upgrade the desi
to compeat with some of more heavier mechs of the inner shpear
--------------------------------------------------------
Type/Model: Shadow Cat II Prime
Mass: 65 tons
Equipment: Crits Mass
Int. Struct.: 104 pts Endo Steel 7 3.50
(Endo Steel Loc: 1 LA, 1 RA, 1 LT, 1 RT, 1 CT, 1 LL, 1 RL)
Engine: 325 XL 10 12.00
Walking MP: 5
Running MP: 8 [10]
Jumping MP: 5
Heat Sinks: 12 Double [24] 0 2.00
Gyro: 4 4.00
Cockpit, Life Supt., Sensors: 5 3.00
MASC: 3 3.00
Actuators: L: Sh+UA+LA+H R: Sh+UA+LA+H 16 .00
Armor Factor: 211 pts Ferro-Fibrous 7 11.00
(Armor Crit Loc: 1 LA, 1 RA, 2 LT, 1 RT, 1 LL, 1 RL)
Internal Armor
Structure Value
Head: 3 9
Center Torso: 21 32
Center Torso (Rear): 10
L/R Side Torso: 15 22/22
L/R Side Torso (Rear): 8/8
L/R Arm: 10 20/20
L/R Leg: 15 30/30
Weapons and Equipment Loc Heat Ammo Crits Mass
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1 ER Large Laser RA 12 1 4.00
1 ER Medium Laser RA 5 1 1.00
1 ER Small Laser RA 2 1 .50
1 Large Pulse Laser LA 10 2 6.00
1 Adv. Tact. Msl. 9 RT 6 14 6 7.00
(Ammo Locations: 2 RT)
2 ER Medium Lasers LT 10 2 2.00
1 ECM Suite HD 0 1 1.00
5 Standard Jump Jets: 5 5.00
(Jump Jet Loc: 2 LT, 2 RT, 1 CT)
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TOTALS: 45 71 65.00
Crits & Tons Left: 7 .00
Calculated Factors:
Total Cost: 21,379,840 C-Bills
Battle Value: 2,488
Cost per BV: 8,593.18
Weapon Value: 2,394 / 2,394 (Ratio = .96 / .96)
Damage Factors: SRDmg = 27; MRDmg = 19; LRDmg = 11
BattleForce2: MP: 5J, Armor/Structure: 5/4
Damage PB/M/L: 4/3/1, Overheat: 4
Class: MH; Point Value: 25
Specials: omni, ecm
Edited by mechamaniac12 (02/16/11 08:23 AM)
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KitK
02/16/11 11:34 AM
128.233.4.30
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Yeah, that definitely "feels" (nice technical term, eh?) more like a Shadow Cat. I could imagine how its predecessor was a Shadow Cat A.
Opps, your are right. I was thinking about A but mixed up the letters.
Edited by KitK (02/16/11 01:02 PM)
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mechamaniac12
02/16/11 12:08 PM
88.108.7.229
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What About the Alt.A
BattleMech Technical Readout
Type/Model: Shadow Cat II Alt.A
Tech: Clan / 3050
Config: Biped OmniMech
Rules: Level 2, Standard design
Mass: 65 tons
Chassis: Endo Steel
Power Plant: 325 XL Fusion
Walking Speed: 54.0 km/h
Maximum Speed: 86.4 [108.0] km/h
Jump Jets: 5 Standard Jump Jets
Jump Capacity: 150 meters
Armor Type: Ferro-Fibrous
Armament:
2 ER PPCs
1 Adv. Tact. Msl. 9
1 ER Small Laser
1 Medium Pulse Laser
1 ECM Suite
Manufacturer: (Unknown)
Location: (Unknown)
Communications System: (Unknown)
Targeting & Tracking System: (Unknown)
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Type/Model: Shadow Cat II Alt.A
Mass: 65 tons
Equipment: Crits Mass
Int. Struct.: 104 pts Endo Steel 7 3.50
(Endo Steel Loc: 1 LA, 1 RA, 1 LT, 1 RT, 1 CT, 1 LL, 1 RL)
Engine: 325 XL 10 12.00
Walking MP: 5
Running MP: 8 [10]
Jumping MP: 5
Heat Sinks: 10 Double [20] 0 .00
Gyro: 4 4.00
Cockpit, Life Supt., Sensors: 5 3.00
MASC: 3 3.00
Actuators: L: Sh+UA R: Sh+UA 12 .00
Armor Factor: 211 pts Ferro-Fibrous 7 11.00
(Armor Crit Loc: 2 LA, 1 RA, 1 LT, 1 RT, 1 LL, 1 RL)
Internal Armor
Structure Value
Head: 3 9
Center Torso: 21 32
Center Torso (Rear): 10
L/R Side Torso: 15 22/22
L/R Side Torso (Rear): 8/8
L/R Arm: 10 20/20
L/R Leg: 15 30/30
Weapons and Equipment Loc Heat Ammo Crits Mass
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1 ER PPC RA 15 2 6.00
1 ER PPC LA 15 2 6.00
1 Adv. Tact. Msl. 9 RT 6 14 6 7.00
(Ammo Locations: 2 RT)
1 ER Small Laser LT 2 1 .50
1 Medium Pulse Laser LT 4 1 2.00
1 ECM Suite HD 0 1 1.00
5 Standard Jump Jets: 5 5.00
(Jump Jet Loc: 2 LT, 2 RT, 1 CT)
--------------------------------------------------------
TOTALS: 42 66 64.00
Crits & Tons Left: 12 1.00
Calculated Factors:
Total Cost: 21,413,047 C-Bills
Battle Value: 2,566
Cost per BV: 8,344.91
Weapon Value: 1,972 / 1,972 (Ratio = .77 / .77)
Damage Factors: SRDmg = 23; MRDmg = 16; LRDmg = 8
BattleForce2: MP: 5J, Armor/Structure: 5/4
Damage PB/M/L: 4/3/2, Overheat: 4
Class: MH; Point Value: 26
Specials: omni, ecm
Edited by mechamaniac12 (02/16/11 12:11 PM)
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KitK
02/19/11 10:50 AM
71.17.192.22
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Unless you've fluffed it so that the PPCs are a redundant system like the medium laser banks on a Nova/Blackhawk you really don't have enough heatsinks to fire your long range weapons. ATM and PPCs = 16 point heat spike. ATM 1PPC and walking = 2 point spike.
KK
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