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CYBRN4CR 05/23/12 07:34 PM 67.204.151.83	Edit Reply Quote Quick Reply Okay, I'll post the Hellbringer as soon as I finish my comments on each variant. Yeah the TC helps and you can still keep two extra heatsinks which should make it easy to hop around and fire all day. And more than 80 meters, 8 jumping gives you 240meters of distance. BTW, how did your unit end up with said Rabid Coyote and Sagittaire?
scheinlen 05/23/12 11:15 PM 204.111.89.20	Edit Reply Quote Quick Reply The Rabid Coyote was a trade, I put it in the WIE unit. I have to get the last trinary finished yet. I have the Sagittaire in my assault company of my Kell Hound Battalion, BUT, I need to thin out 6 Assault Mechs that I have and replace them with heavys or medium mechs. then I will purchace the last 10 mechs with only lights and medium to have the full 40 mechs in a merc battalion. It is not my job to judge my Enemies, that is there God's job. It is only my duty to arrange the meeting!
CYBRN4CR 05/24/12 12:48 AM 67.204.151.83	Edit Reply Quote Quick Reply I assume you want that battalion to be 100% painted/kitbashed miniatures, am I right? If so, I'm impressed. I only have miniatures from the 25th box set and my Battletech time primarily consists of designing and testing mechs virtually, so anyone with an army of miniatures gets respect in my book. Do you role-play when you trade/buy miniatures? For example, if your unit has the C-bills to buy a mech, do you then go out and buy the miniature? Or when you trade miniatures, do you try to come up with a legitimate reason why your unit would be trading with the other party? I can imagine that would make the process fun and engaging! Oh, and here's the Hellbringer. The original Hellbringer base chassis has a 5/8/0 movement profile, 8 tons of standard armor, and 13 base DHSs, leaving 28.5 tons available for weapons and equipment. My redesign adds FF, ES, and removes the heatsinks from the base to increase the available tonnage and max out the armor for maximum compatibility of limbs between it and the Summoner. A searchlight was permanently mounted for chassis accuracy without the need for quirks. I kept the ERPPCs, ERMLs, Streak6, AP, ECM, and A-Pods of the original Prime variant, but I removed the TC, MGs, and AMS to fill the rest of the space with heatsinks. Code: Loki (Hellbringer) (Custom) Mass: 65 tons Tech Base: Clan Chassis Config: Biped Omnimech Rules Level: Tournament Legal Era: Succession Wars Tech Rating/Era Availability: E/X-E-E Production Year: 2926 Cost: 16,062,406 C-Bills Battle Value: 969 Chassis: Unknown Endo-Steel Power Plant: Unknown 325 Fusion XL Engine Walking Speed: 54.0 km/h Maximum Speed: 86.4 km/h Jump Jets: None Jump Capacity: 0 meters Armor: Unknown Ferro-Fibrous Armament: 31.0 tons of pod space. Manufacturer: Unknown Primary Factory: Unknown Communications System: Unknown Targeting and Tracking System: Unknown Overview: Redesigned by CYBRN4CR ================================================================================ Equipment Type Rating Mass -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Internal Structure: Endo-Steel 104 points 3.50 Internal Locations: 1 CT, 1 LT, 1 RT, 2 LA, 2 RA Engine: XL Fusion Engine 325 12.00 Walking MP: 5 Running MP: 8 Jumping MP: 0 Heat Sinks: Double Heat Sink 10(20) 0.00 Gyro: Standard 4.00 Cockpit: Standard 3.00 Actuators: L: SH+UA R: SH+UA Armor: Ferro-Fibrous AV - 211 11.00 Armor Locations: 1 HD, 1 LT, 1 RT, 2 LA, 2 RA Internal Armor Structure Factor Head 3 9 Center Torso 21 36 Center Torso (rear) 6 L/R Torso 15 24 L/R Torso (rear) 6 L/R Arm 10 20 L/R Leg 15 30 ================================================================================ Equipment Location Heat Critical Mass -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Searchlight LT 0 1 0.50 Free Critical Slots: 32 ================================================================================ Loadout Name: Prime Cost: 19,081,906 Tech Rating/Era Availability: F/X-E-E BV2: 2,750 Equipment Type Rating Mass -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Heat Sinks: Double Heat Sink 18(36) 8.00 Heat Sink Locations: 2 LT, 2 RT, 2 LA, 2 RA CASE Locations: RT 0.00 Actuators: L: SH+UA R: SH+UA Equipment Location Heat Critical Mass -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- ER PPC RA 15 2 6.00 ER PPC LA 15 2 6.00 Streak SRM-6 RT 4 2 3.00 ECM Suite RT 0 1 1.00 Searchlight LT 0 1 0.50 3 ER Medium Lasers LT 15 3 3.00 Active Probe CT 0 1 1.00 2 A-Pods RL 0 2 1.00 2 A-Pods LL 0 2 1.00 @Streak SRM-6 (15) RT - 1 1.00 Free Critical Slots: 0 The Assault variant is a simple switch of arms like the mechs before. The A-pods are replaced with heatsinks in this one. Code: ================================================================================ Loadout Name: A Cost: 18,897,312 Tech Rating/Era Availability: F/X-E-E BV2: 2,638 Equipment Type Rating Mass -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Heat Sinks: Double Heat Sink 18(36) 8.00 Heat Sink Locations: 2 LT, 2 RT, 1 LA, 1 RA, 1 LL, 1 RL CASE Locations: RT 0.00 Actuators: L: SH+UA+LA R: SH+UA+LA Equipment Location Heat Critical Mass -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Large Pulse Laser RA 10 2 6.00 ER Medium Laser RA 5 1 1.00 Large Pulse Laser LA 10 2 6.00 ER Medium Laser LA 5 1 1.00 Streak SRM-6 RT 4 2 3.00 ECM Suite RT 0 1 1.00 Searchlight LT 0 1 0.50 3 ER Medium Lasers LT 15 3 3.00 Active Probe CT 0 1 1.00 @Streak SRM-6 (15) RT - 1 1.00 Free Critical Slots: 0 Mostly used in trials, the Ballistics/Bombardment variant of the Hellbringer goes all out with three primary ammo weapons at the expense of everything else. Code: ================================================================================ Loadout Name: B Cost: 18,413,656 Tech Rating/Era Availability: F/X-E-E BV2: 2,086 Equipment Type Rating Mass -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- CASE Locations: RT, LA, RA 0.00 Actuators: L: SH+UA R: SH+UA Equipment Location Heat Critical Mass -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Ultra AC/10 RA 3 4 10.00 Ultra AC/10 LA 3 4 10.00 LRM-20 RT 6 4 5.00 Artemis IV FCS RT - 1 1.00 Searchlight LT 0 1 0.50 @Ultra AC/10 (20) RA - 2 2.00 @Ultra AC/10 (20) LA - 2 2.00 @LRM-20 (Artemis) (6) RT - 1 1.00 Free Critical Slots: 14 The City variant borrows arms from the Mad Dog and switches out the triad of ERMLs of the Assault variant for MPLs at the expense of heatsinks. Thankfully, all the weapons are still useful if used in two distinct firing groups. Code: ================================================================================ Loadout Name: C Cost: 18,615,781 Tech Rating/Era Availability: F/X-E-E BV2: 2,505 Equipment Type Rating Mass -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Heat Sinks: Double Heat Sink 13(26) 3.00 CASE Locations: RT 0.00 Actuators: L: SH+UA R: SH+UA Equipment Location Heat Critical Mass -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Large Pulse Laser RA 10 2 6.00 Medium Pulse Laser RA 4 1 2.00 Large Pulse Laser LA 10 2 6.00 Medium Pulse Laser LA 4 1 2.00 Streak SRM-6 RT 4 2 3.00 ECM Suite RT 0 1 1.00 Searchlight LT 0 1 0.50 3 Medium Pulse Lasers LT 12 3 6.00 Active Probe CT 0 1 1.00 @Streak SRM-6 (15) RT - 1 1.00 Free Critical Slots: 12 The Defense variant is a blend of the old A and B variants with the Gauss rifle and ERLL added to the Prime's ERMLs, Streak6, AP and ECM. Code: ================================================================================ Loadout Name: D Cost: 18,923,609 Tech Rating/Era Availability: F/X-E-E BV2: 2,578 Equipment Type Rating Mass -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Heat Sinks: Double Heat Sink 14(28) 4.00 Heat Sink Locations: 1 LT, 1 RT, 2 RA CASE Locations: RT, LA 0.00 Actuators: L: SH+UA R: SH+UA+LA Equipment Location Heat Critical Mass -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- ER Large Laser RA 12 1 4.00 Gauss Rifle LA 1 6 12.00 Streak SRM-6 RT 4 2 3.00 ECM Suite RT 0 1 1.00 Searchlight LT 0 1 0.50 3 ER Medium Lasers LT 15 3 3.00 Active Probe CT 0 1 1.00 @Streak SRM-6 (15) RT - 1 1.00 @Gauss Rifle (16) LT - 2 2.00 Free Critical Slots: 6 The Enhanced variant exchanges the Streak system of the Prime variant for an ATM system with ER ammo. The unpopular A-pods were easily replaced by heatsinks and the leftover .5t was filled by a utility Flamer. Code: ================================================================================ Loadout Name: E Cost: 19,174,719 Tech Rating/Era Availability: F/X-X-E BV2: 2,744 Equipment Type Rating Mass -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Heat Sinks: Double Heat Sink 19(38) 9.00 Heat Sink Locations: 2 LT, 1 RT, 2 LA, 2 RA, 1 LL, 1 RL CASE Locations: RT 0.00 Actuators: L: SH+UA R: SH+UA Equipment Location Heat Critical Mass -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- ER PPC RA 15 2 6.00 ER PPC LA 15 2 6.00 ATM-6 RT 4 3 3.50 ECM Suite RT 0 1 1.00 Flamer RT 3 1 0.50 Searchlight LT 0 1 0.50 3 ER Medium Lasers LT 15 3 3.00 Active Probe CT 0 1 1.00 @ATM-6 (ER) (10) RT - 1 1.00 Free Critical Slots: 0 Combining the old City variant with the Enhanced variant along with Plasma Cannon arms produces this Fire variant. Again, the ATM has HE ammo. Code: ================================================================================ Loadout Name: F Cost: 19,357,250 Tech Rating/Era Availability: F/X-X-E BV2: 2,527 Equipment Type Rating Mass -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Heat Sinks: Double Heat Sink 16(32) 6.00 Heat Sink Locations: 2 LT, 1 LA, 1 RA, 1 LL, 1 RL CASE Locations: RT 0.00 Actuators: L: SH+UA+LA R: SH+UA+LA Equipment Location Heat Critical Mass -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Plasma Cannon RA 7 1 3.00 Medium Pulse Laser RA 4 1 2.00 Plasma Cannon LA 7 1 3.00 Medium Pulse Laser LA 4 1 2.00 ECM Suite RT 0 1 1.00 Flamer RT 3 1 0.50 ATM-6 RT 4 3 3.50 Searchlight LT 0 1 0.50 3 Medium Pulse Lasers LT 12 3 6.00 Active Probe CT 0 1 1.00 @Plasma Cannon (10) RA - 1 1.00 @Plasma Cannon (10) LA - 1 1.00 @ATM-6 (HE) (10) RT - 1 1.00 Free Critical Slots: 2 Taking the Ballistics/Bombardment variant to the next level, the UACs are replaced with HAG20s, but the LRM is replaced with an ATM6 with ER ammo and 3 AP Gausses sharing a ton of ammo. Code: ================================================================================ Loadout Name: G Cost: 18,444,594 Tech Rating/Era Availability: F/X-X-E BV2: 2,151 Equipment Type Rating Mass -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- CASE Locations: LT, RT, LA, RA 0.00 Actuators: L: SH+UA R: SH+UA Equipment Location Heat Critical Mass -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- HAG-20 RA 4 6 10.00 HAG-20 LA 4 6 10.00 ATM-6 RT 4 3 3.50 Searchlight LT 0 1 0.50 3 AP Gauss Rifles LT 3 3 1.50 @ATM-6 (ER) (10) RT - 1 1.00 @HAG-20 (24) LT - 4 4.00 @AP Gauss Rifle (40) CT - 1 1.00 Free Critical Slots: 8 And finally this Heavy Laser variant also builds upon the old City variant, but is not intended for city fighting as the AP is swiched out for a fourth MPL due to the rest of the space being dedicated to heatsinks and a Targeting Computer. Code: ================================================================================ Loadout Name: H Cost: 18,521,937 Tech Rating/Era Availability: F/X-X-E BV2: 2,366 Equipment Type Rating Mass -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Heat Sinks: Double Heat Sink 16(32) 6.00 Heat Sink Locations: 2 LT, 1 LA, 1 RA, 1 LL, 1 RL CASE Locations: RT 0.00 Actuators: L: SH+UA+LA R: SH+UA+LA Equipment Location Heat Critical Mass -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Heavy Large Laser RA 18 3 4.00 Heavy Large Laser LA 18 3 4.00 Streak SRM-6 RT 4 2 3.00 ECM Suite RT 0 1 1.00 Targeting Computer RT - 4 4.00 Searchlight LT 0 1 0.50 3 Medium Pulse Lasers LT 12 3 6.00 Medium Pulse Laser CT 4 1 2.00 @Streak SRM-6 (15) RT - 1 1.00 Free Critical Slots: 0 Well, that's it for the Heavy Omnis. What do you guys think so far? Does the idea of exchanging arms generally improve the Omnimech idea? And what class of mechs should I post next? Assaults? Mediums? Light mechs? You decide.
scheinlen 05/24/12 01:01 AM 204.111.95.226	Edit Reply Quote Quick Reply I like your "C" varient, but I am looking for a Customed Jump Version for my Listing. Yes I have been gaming off and on for years.... I got 32 IS mechs and 28 Clan Mechs, a company of Vtols/ Helos but just a few hovercraft. 3 Stars of Clan battle armor including 10 protomechs and about a company of IS purifier BA (48) been out of the gaming circle for a while just getting my "paper work back together. Presently in Va. but moving back to In. in June. Tryiing to get back incontact with the old gaming group there. It is not my job to judge my Enemies, that is there God's job. It is only my duty to arrange the meeting!
CYBRN4CR 05/24/12 03:43 AM 67.204.151.83	Edit Reply Quote Quick Reply I knew you were going to have a bit of an issue with the lack of a jump jet design. I might design an official "J" variant for the Hellbringer. Give me a bit to get back to you on that.
scheinlen 05/24/12 11:32 AM 204.111.95.226	Edit Reply Quote Quick Reply TY, setting in design mode... It is not my job to judge my Enemies, that is there God's job. It is only my duty to arrange the meeting!
CYBRN4CR 05/24/12 04:39 PM 67.204.151.83	Edit Reply Quote Quick Reply Okay, scheinlen! Here is your requested jump Hellbringer. I had to base the variant off the Assault variant to keep at least the LPLs Streak6 and 5 ML theme. Though depending on what arms you have, you can switch them to my ERPPC variants. To make room for the jets, four heatsinks and the AP were removed. If you find you like the AP, you can switch it with the jet in the CT or the ECM, whichever you prefer. Code: ================================================================================ Loadout Name: J Cost: 19,105,625 Tech Rating/Era Availability: F/X-E-E BV2: 2,906 Equipment Type Rating Mass -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Jumping MP: 5 (Standard) Jump Jet Locations: 1 CT, 2 LT, 2 RT 5.00 Heat Sinks: Double Heat Sink 14(28) 4.00 Heat Sink Locations: 1 LT, 1 RT, 1 LA, 1 RA CASE Locations: RT 0.00 Actuators: L: SH+UA+LA R: SH+UA+LA Equipment Location Heat Critical Mass -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Large Pulse Laser RA 10 2 6.00 ER Medium Laser RA 5 1 1.00 Large Pulse Laser LA 10 2 6.00 ER Medium Laser LA 5 1 1.00 Streak SRM-6 RT 4 2 3.00 ECM Suite RT 0 1 1.00 Searchlight LT 0 1 0.50 3 ER Medium Lasers LT 15 3 3.00 @Streak SRM-6 (15) RT - 1 1.00 Free Critical Slots: 4
scheinlen 05/24/12 04:51 PM 204.111.91.196	Edit Reply Quote Quick Reply This sounds good for the unit I am running... I hope you dont mind I'll be printing these off to rebuild the lost paper work for each mech in the units... then Ill just have to do the damage charts for gaming. thanks It is not my job to judge my Enemies, that is there God's job. It is only my duty to arrange the meeting!
CYBRN4CR 05/24/12 06:09 PM 67.204.151.83	Edit Reply Quote Quick Reply Feel free! I'm honored you see value in them! Quote: I still need to get a few more of the Star cluster set up with jump jets yet. Such as the Warhawk, Gargoyle, plus the Viper and Cougar. and the Ryoken II is the Tassa Kay design. Perhaps to save you some time I can do these mechs next with jump versions included.
scheinlen 05/24/12 07:50 PM 204.111.97.236	Edit Reply Quote Quick Reply Cool, but I modified my Ryoken II to be like the Tassa Kay design...I had a hard time cutting the LRM rack back to just a 6 pack and used the laser pc and added the ER PPCs turned out cool I thank. It is not my job to judge my Enemies, that is there God's job. It is only my duty to arrange the meeting!
CYBRN4CR 05/26/12 06:12 AM 67.204.151.83	Edit Reply Quote Quick Reply Okay then I can skip that one as well. Since this is a 3050 Omnis thread, I will get to the Warhawk Gargoyle and Viper and then I might post the Cougar in a separate thread, but you'll be happy to know I intend to give the Cougar jump jets by default. Anyway, here are the available arms that can be used interchangeably for the assault class of Omnimechs. Like before, there are certainly more options that I have not made yet that could be good, and any input from your experiences/designs would be appreciated. 1FF 1ES arm family (so far) SH+UA 1LPL 4ERML 1DHS <intended for Dire Wolf> Gauss rifle 2ammo <famous on Executioner> 2ERPPC 2DHS <famous on Warhawk> ERPPC LPL 2DHS <famous on Warhawk> ERPPC UAC5 1ammo DHS <used only on Warhawk so far> ERPPC 2Plasma 2ammo DHS <used on Warhawk and Dire Wolf> ERPPC 3DHS <used on Executioner, Gargoyle and Dire Wolf> LRM20 w/Art 1ammo 1DHS <used on Executioner, Gargoyle and Dire Wolf> UAC20 <used on all assaults> HAG30 <used on Warhawk and Dire Wolf> HAG20 2ammo <used on Gargoyle and Executioner> 2ERLL 3DHS <used on Warhawk and Dire Wolf> 2HLL 1DHS <used only on Dire Wolf so far> SH+UA+LA None yet SH+UA+LA+HA <all these arms are intended for the Gargoyle and Executioner, but are available for the other assaults> 4MPL DHS 2LPL DHS 2ERLL 2Plasma 2@ 2HLL Warhawk coming soon!
CYBRN4CR 05/27/12 05:39 AM 67.204.151.83	Edit Reply Quote Quick Reply Okay everyone, here's the Warhawk. The original Warhawk base chassis has a 4/6/0 movement profile, 13.5 tons of FF, and 20 base DHSs, leaving 32.5 tons available for weapons and equipment. My redesign removes the heatsinks from the base and adds ES to increase the available tonnage and max out the armor. I made the Warhawk similar to the smaller Adder by locking an ERLL in the center torso right under the cockpit. I also spread the ES/FF evenly throughout the mech because there was no reason not to and it would allow the possibility of exchanging arms with the other assault mechs (though I made the Warhawk establish its own line of arms instead). For the Prime variant, I kept the glorious quad ERPPC and TC goodness the same and used the remaining tonnage and space to fill it with DHSs. For those that say the Warhawk loses effectiveness if it doesn't have the LRMs, I tested it and this version is at least as powerful as the original. Code: Masakari (Warhawk) (Custom) Mass: 85 tons Tech Base: Clan Chassis Config: Biped Omnimech Rules Level: Tournament Legal Era: Succession Wars Tech Rating/Era Availability: F/X-E-E Production Year: 2999 Cost: 23,742,823 C-Bills Battle Value: 1,388 Chassis: Unknown Endo-Steel Power Plant: Unknown 340 Fusion XL Engine Walking Speed: 43.2 km/h Maximum Speed: 64.8 km/h Jump Jets: Unknown Jump Capacity: 0 meters Armor: Unknown Ferro-Fibrous Armament: 1 ER Large Laser 39.0 tons of pod space. Manufacturer: Unknown Primary Factory: Unknown Communications System: Unknown Targeting and Tracking System: Unknown Overview: Redesigned by CYBRN4CR ================================================================================ Equipment Type Rating Mass -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Internal Structure: Endo-Steel 130 points 4.50 Internal Locations: 1 CT, 1 LT, 1 RT, 1 LA, 1 RA, 1 LL, 1 RL Engine: XL Fusion Engine 340 13.50 Walking MP: 4 Running MP: 6 Jumping MP: 0 Heat Sinks: Double Heat Sink 13(26) 3.00 Gyro: Standard 4.00 Cockpit: Standard 3.00 Actuators: L: SH+UA R: SH+UA Armor: Ferro-Fibrous AV - 263 14.00 Armor Locations: 1 HD, 1 LT, 1 RT, 1 LA, 1 RA, 1 LL, 1 RL Internal Armor Structure Factor Head 3 9 Center Torso 27 46 Center Torso (rear) 8 L/R Torso 18 28 L/R Torso (rear) 8 L/R Arm 14 28 L/R Leg 18 36 ================================================================================ Equipment Location Heat Critical Mass -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- ER Large Laser CT 12 1 4.00 Free Critical Slots: 32 ================================================================================ Loadout Name: Prime Cost: 26,781,448 Tech Rating/Era Availability: F/X-E-E BV2: 3,592 Equipment Type Rating Mass -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Heat Sinks: Double Heat Sink 22(44) 9.00 Heat Sink Locations: 4 LT, 1 RT, 2 LA, 2 RA Actuators: L: SH+UA R: SH+UA Equipment Location Heat Critical Mass -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 2 ER PPCs RA 30 4 12.00 2 ER PPCs LA 30 4 12.00 Targeting Computer RT - 6 6.00 ER Large Laser CT 12 1 4.00 Free Critical Slots: 0 The Assault variant is a simple switch of two ERPPCs for LPLs. It's similar to the old C variant. Code: ================================================================================ Loadout Name: A Cost: 26,203,323 Tech Rating/Era Availability: F/X-E-E BV2: 3,180 Equipment Type Rating Mass -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Heat Sinks: Double Heat Sink 22(44) 9.00 Heat Sink Locations: 4 LT, 1 RT, 2 LA, 2 RA Actuators: L: SH+UA R: SH+UA Equipment Location Heat Critical Mass -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- ER PPC RA 15 2 6.00 Large Pulse Laser RA 10 2 6.00 ER PPC LA 15 2 6.00 Large Pulse Laser LA 10 2 6.00 Targeting Computer RT - 6 6.00 ER Large Laser CT 12 1 4.00 Free Critical Slots: 0 The Ballistic variant switches out two ERPPCs and a few heatsinks for UAC5s with ammo in the arms. Not terribly popular. Code: ================================================================================ Loadout Name: B Cost: 26,494,698 Tech Rating/Era Availability: F/X-E-E BV2: 2,816 Equipment Type Rating Mass -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Heat Sinks: Double Heat Sink 18(36) 5.00 Heat Sink Locations: 3 LT, 1 LA, 1 RA CASE Locations: LA, RA 0.00 Actuators: L: SH+UA R: SH+UA Equipment Location Heat Critical Mass -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- ER PPC RA 15 2 6.00 Ultra AC/5 RA 1 3 7.00 ER PPC LA 15 2 6.00 Ultra AC/5 LA 1 3 7.00 Targeting Computer RT - 6 6.00 ER Large Laser CT 12 1 4.00 @Ultra AC/5 (20) RA - 1 1.00 @Ultra AC/5 (20) LA - 1 1.00 Free Critical Slots: 4 The City variant changes one arm for a fully-reversible UAC20 arm while keeping the TC, making it dangerous to get close. To not be taken advantage of at range, this is paired with a dual ERLL arm along with the base ERLL, and a LRM20 rack adding long range bombardment support. Rounding out the variant is an AP, which even the Clans had to admit is necessary in a city. Code: ================================================================================ Loadout Name: C Cost: 27,336,448 Tech Rating/Era Availability: F/X-E-E BV2: 2,734 Equipment Type Rating Mass -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Heat Sinks: Double Heat Sink 17(34) 4.00 Heat Sink Locations: 1 RT, 3 RA CASE Locations: LT 0.00 Actuators: L: SH+UA R: SH+UA Equipment Location Heat Critical Mass -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 2 ER Large Lasers RA 24 2 8.00 Ultra AC/20 LA 7 8 12.00 Active Probe RT 0 1 1.00 Targeting Computer RT - 5 5.00 LRM-20 LT 6 4 5.00 Artemis IV FCS LT - 1 1.00 ER Large Laser CT 12 1 4.00 @LRM-20 (Artemis) (6) LT - 1 1.00 @Ultra AC/20 (10) LT - 2 2.00 Free Critical Slots: 0 The Defense variant may not have ERPPCs or LPLs, but it has five ERLLs to try and out-range incoming combatants. Should any get close, that's when they get a mech full of Streaks. Code: ================================================================================ Loadout Name: D Cost: 26,744,448 Tech Rating/Era Availability: F/X-E-E BV2: 2,905 Equipment Type Rating Mass -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Heat Sinks: Double Heat Sink 21(42) 8.00 Heat Sink Locations: 2 RT, 3 LA, 3 RA CASE Locations: LT 0.00 Actuators: L: SH+UA R: SH+UA Equipment Location Heat Critical Mass -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 2 ER Large Lasers RA 24 2 8.00 2 ER Large Lasers LA 24 2 8.00 Targeting Computer RT - 4 4.00 3 Streak SRM-6s LT 12 6 9.00 ER Large Laser CT 12 1 4.00 @Streak SRM-6 (30) LT - 2 2.00 Free Critical Slots: 0 The Enhanced variant takes the City variant and simply switches the LRM20 for an ATM9 with HE ammo, making it even more dangerous to get close to it at the expense of range. Code: ================================================================================ Loadout Name: E Cost: 27,047,385 Tech Rating/Era Availability: F/X-X-E BV2: 2,719 Equipment Type Rating Mass -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Heat Sinks: Double Heat Sink 17(34) 4.00 Heat Sink Locations: 1 RT, 3 RA CASE Locations: LT 0.00 Actuators: L: SH+UA R: SH+UA Equipment Location Heat Critical Mass -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 2 ER Large Lasers RA 24 2 8.00 Ultra AC/20 LA 7 8 12.00 Active Probe RT 0 1 1.00 Targeting Computer RT - 5 5.00 ATM-9 LT 6 4 5.00 ER Large Laser CT 12 1 4.00 @Ultra AC/20 (10) LT - 2 2.00 @ATM-9 (HE) (14) LT - 2 2.00 Free Critical Slots: 0 The Fire variant switches out two ERPPCs and four heatsinks for quad Plasma Cannons with ammo for each to last. What the variant sacrifices in damage, it gains a very good chance of shutting the opponent's mech down and a wide berth from infantry and light units as the Plasmas also gain the TC bonus. Code: ================================================================================ Loadout Name: F Cost: 28,298,448 Tech Rating/Era Availability: F/X-X-E BV2: 3,182 Equipment Type Rating Mass -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Heat Sinks: Double Heat Sink 18(36) 5.00 Heat Sink Locations: 3 LT, 1 LA, 1 RA Actuators: L: SH+UA R: SH+UA Equipment Location Heat Critical Mass -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- ER PPC RA 15 2 6.00 2 Plasma Cannons RA 14 2 6.00 ER PPC LA 15 2 6.00 2 Plasma Cannons LA 14 2 6.00 Targeting Computer RT - 6 6.00 ER Large Laser CT 12 1 4.00 @Plasma Cannon (20) RA - 2 2.00 @Plasma Cannon (20) LA - 2 2.00 Free Critical Slots: 4 The HAG variant has twin HAG30 arms tied to the TC and a good helping of ammo for each along with the base ERLL. Filling in the last ton is an AP for finding hidden units at sensor range, making opponents have to pay attention to it before any other mechs. Code: ================================================================================ Loadout Name: G Cost: 26,887,823 Tech Rating/Era Availability: F/X-X-E BV2: 2,931 Equipment Type Rating Mass -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- CASE Locations: LA, RA 0.00 Actuators: L: SH+UA R: SH+UA Equipment Location Heat Critical Mass -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- HAG-30 RA 6 8 13.00 HAG-30 LA 6 8 13.00 Active Probe RT 0 1 1.00 Targeting Computer RT - 6 6.00 ER Large Laser CT 12 1 4.00 @HAG-30 (24) LT - 6 6.00 Free Critical Slots: 3 The Heavy Laser variant is different than most assault Heavy Laser variants in that the Heavy Lasers are HMLs and are mostly intended as backup weapons. I thought of this variant on the fly as the predecessor to the HAG variant, but I might tweak this one some more to try and squeeze more performance out of it. Code: ================================================================================ Loadout Name: H Cost: 26,453,073 Tech Rating/Era Availability: F/X-X-E BV2: 2,760 Equipment Type Rating Mass -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Heat Sinks: Double Heat Sink 15(30) 2.00 Heat Sink Locations: 2 LT CASE Locations: LA, RA 0.00 Actuators: L: SH+UA R: SH+UA Equipment Location Heat Critical Mass -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Gauss Rifle RA 1 6 12.00 Gauss Rifle LA 1 6 12.00 Active Probe RT 0 1 1.00 Targeting Computer RT - 6 6.00 2 Heavy Medium Lasers LT 14 4 2.00 ER Large Laser CT 12 1 4.00 @Gauss Rifle (16) RA - 2 2.00 @Gauss Rifle (16) LA - 2 2.00 Free Critical Slots: 1 The Tara variant takes a different approach than the other variants as it adds two Dire Wolf arms to the mech and an additional LPL along with the base ERLL, making this variant the most heat intensive variant yet. Tara keeps the TC native to the mech and fills the last two tons and crits with electronics, making her mech hard to ignore on the battlefield. Code: ================================================================================ Loadout Name: (Tara) Cost: 27,570,010 Tech Rating/Era Availability: F/X-X-E BV2: 3,263 Equipment Type Rating Mass -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Heat Sinks: Double Heat Sink 18(36) 5.00 Heat Sink Locations: 3 LT, 1 LA, 1 RA Actuators: L: SH+UA R: SH+UA Equipment Location Heat Critical Mass -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Large Pulse Laser RA 10 2 6.00 4 ER Medium Lasers RA 20 4 4.00 Large Pulse Laser LA 10 2 6.00 4 ER Medium Lasers LA 20 4 4.00 Active Probe RT 0 1 1.00 ECM Suite RT 0 1 1.00 Targeting Computer RT - 6 6.00 Large Pulse Laser LT 10 2 6.00 ER Large Laser CT 12 1 4.00 Free Critical Slots: 0 And finally the Jump variant is based off the very successful Alpha variant, switching out four heatsinks for jets. Code: ================================================================================ Loadout Name: J Cost: 26,776,823 Tech Rating/Era Availability: F/X-E-E BV2: 3,436 Equipment Type Rating Mass -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Jumping MP: 4 (Standard) Jump Jet Locations: 2 LT, 2 RT 4.00 Heat Sinks: Double Heat Sink 18(36) 5.00 Heat Sink Locations: 1 LT, 2 LA, 2 RA Actuators: L: SH+UA R: SH+UA Equipment Location Heat Critical Mass -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- ER PPC RA 15 2 6.00 Large Pulse Laser RA 10 2 6.00 ER PPC LA 15 2 6.00 Large Pulse Laser LA 10 2 6.00 Targeting Computer RT - 6 6.00 ER Large Laser CT 12 1 4.00 Free Critical Slots: 4
scheinlen 05/27/12 01:39 PM 204.111.104.220	Edit Reply Quote Quick Reply For the War Hawk How about if a person looks at the Figurine, it has to me the following weapons... Strike 6- LT LRM 5- LT 2 ER LL - RA 2 ER LL - LA Jump Jets Targeting Computer It is not my job to judge my Enemies, that is there God's job. It is only my duty to arrange the meeting!
CYBRN4CR 05/27/12 11:46 PM 67.204.151.83	Edit Reply Quote Quick Reply Okay. I think I made a variant that will work for you. I was able to use my 2ERLL 3DHS arms and add jump jets along with a LRM10 with swarm ammo and a Streak 6. The TC is only four tons/crits and overall the mech has 20 heatsinks, allowing you to fire three ERLLs and jump all day. You have the extra two in case you aren't afraid of overheating and cooling off. A flamer fills in the last bit of space for tactical retreats or infantry attacks. I named the variant SS after "scheinlen special" since it follows a slightly different LRM pattern. The record sheet should be attached. I also tweaked the H variant a bit by exchanging one of the Gauss arms for a 2HLL/DHS arm. I added enough heatsinks to handle the twin HLLs, and filled the last bit of space with an ERPPC. Now the focus is more on range than on backup close range heavy lasers. Code: ================================================================================ Loadout Name: H Cost: 26,610,323 Tech Rating/Era Availability: F/X-X-E BV2: 3,085 Equipment Type Rating Mass -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Heat Sinks: Double Heat Sink 18(36) 5.00 Heat Sink Locations: 3 LT, 1 RT, 1 RA CASE Locations: LA 0.00 Actuators: L: SH+UA R: SH+UA Equipment Location Heat Critical Mass -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 2 Heavy Large Lasers RA 36 6 8.00 Gauss Rifle LA 1 6 12.00 Targeting Computer RT - 6 6.00 ER PPC LT 15 2 6.00 ER Large Laser CT 12 1 4.00 @Gauss Rifle (16) LA - 2 2.00 Free Critical Slots: 0 Coming up next is the Gargoyle. Attachment (188 downloads)
scheinlen 05/28/12 10:42 AM 204.111.93.186	Edit Reply Quote Quick Reply Thanks, The War Hawk "SS" fits my fighting style nicely... thanks again for the help. I like a mech with mostly energy weapons with few ammo needs... Having a energy heavy force to me gives a better field time and less dependent demand for resupply. My Clan WIE unit has Mainly that and LRMs. The one thing I dislike on a mech is a MG and ammo, it is like running across a battle field carring a pocket full of detonaters praying that you dont trip or get hit in the pocket by even a rock! All of my mechs that have to have a MG and ammo are replaced with a Sm P Laser. It is not my job to judge my Enemies, that is there God's job. It is only my duty to arrange the meeting!
CYBRN4CR 05/29/12 05:10 AM 67.204.151.83	Edit Reply Quote Quick Reply I'm glad I could help! And I agree with you about the MG ammo. It is more hazardous than other ammo because it hardly gets used under TW rules. However, if you use Tac Ops rapid-fire MG rules, this quickly becomes less of an issue as a single MG can use 3-18 shots in one turn dealing 1-6 damage and heat. This is hard to ignore as MGs can quickly become the highest and fastest damage dealing AI-type weapon against harder targets in the Clan inventory, despite SPLs having better ToHits and double the range. This makes the Alpha (Assault) variant of the Timber Wolf make a bit more sense as firing all the MGs in rapid-fire mode uses 18-108 shots in one turn. So at most six turns and at least one turn you have ammo exposure, which is much better and believable when compared to the video. With this in mind, I allowed MGs to continue to be sent to the front-line forces, though not in large quantities as not many mechs have MG variants. In other news, I'm thinking about returning the TAG laser to the front-lines. Why? Well, if any of you have ever played a video game with laser-sight enemies, you know how intimidating they are and how much aggro they pull with that damn laser of theirs, searching around for your head to pop. And IS forces aware of the power of the TAG laser and AIV combo, but unaware of what Clan forces have in store will act the same way. Though this seems like mostly a Wolf tactic, imagine how evil it would be on the Executioner? Forget Executioner, think Terminator.
scheinlen 05/31/12 04:38 PM 204.111.92.177	Edit Reply Quote Quick Reply LOL, 60% of my mechs are missle heavy... A TAG laser whould just make them hit !@#$ harder. It is not my job to judge my Enemies, that is there God's job. It is only my duty to arrange the meeting!
CYBRN4CR 05/31/12 11:40 PM 67.204.151.83	Edit Reply Quote Quick Reply Yup. It's a pretty powerful, and expected technique. Be careful not to go too overboard with it, but if your unit can get away with it when it can, it can really make a difference. Anyway, sorry this one took a while. I had some personal things come up. The original Gargoyle base chassis has a 5/8/0 movement profile, 11 tons of FF, and 16 base DHSs, leaving 21.5 tons available for weapons and equipment. My redesign removes the heatsinks from the base and adds ES to increase the available tonnage and armor. I spread the ES/FF evenly throughout the mech because there was no reason not to, and so that it could mount dual Executioner arms (which most variants are). I was able to recreate Breetai's Gargoyle for the Prime variant so he gets credit for that one. Code: Man O' War (Gargoyle) (Custom) Mass: 80 tons Tech Base: Clan Chassis Config: Biped Omnimech Rules Level: Tournament Legal Era: Succession Wars Tech Rating/Era Availability: E/X-E-E Production Year: 2945 Cost: 24,330,000 C-Bills Battle Value: 1,120 Chassis: Unknown Endo-Steel Power Plant: Unknown 400 Fusion XL Engine Walking Speed: 54.0 km/h Maximum Speed: 86.4 km/h Jump Jets: None Jump Capacity: 0 meters Armor: Unknown Ferro-Fibrous Armament: 30.0 tons of pod space. Manufacturer: Unknown Primary Factory: Unknown Communications System: Unknown Targeting and Tracking System: Unknown Overview: Redesigned by CYBRN4CR Prime variant by Breetai ================================================================================ Equipment Type Rating Mass -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Internal Structure: Endo-Steel 122 points 4.00 Internal Locations: 1 CT, 1 LT, 1 RT, 1 LA, 1 RA, 1 LL, 1 RL Engine: XL Fusion Engine 400 26.50 Walking MP: 5 Running MP: 8 Jumping MP: 0 Heat Sinks: Double Heat Sink 10(20) 0.00 Gyro: Standard 4.00 Cockpit: Standard 3.00 Actuators: L: SH+UA R: SH+UA Armor: Ferro-Fibrous AV - 240 12.50 Armor Locations: 1 HD, 1 LT, 1 RT, 1 LA, 1 RA, 1 LL, 1 RL Internal Armor Structure Factor Head 3 9 Center Torso 25 35 Center Torso (rear) 8 L/R Torso 17 26 L/R Torso (rear) 8 L/R Arm 13 26 L/R Leg 17 34 ================================================================================ Loadout Name: Prime Cost: 27,246,000 Tech Rating/Era Availability: F/X-E-E BV2: 2,983 Equipment Type Rating Mass -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Heat Sinks: Double Heat Sink 16(32) 6.00 CASE Locations: LT, RT 0.00 Actuators: L: SH+UA R: SH+UA Equipment Location Heat Critical Mass -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- ER PPC RA 15 2 6.00 ER PPC LA 15 2 6.00 Streak SRM-6 RT 4 2 3.00 2 ER Medium Lasers RT 10 2 2.00 Streak SRM-6 LT 4 2 3.00 2 ER Medium Lasers LT 10 2 2.00 @Streak SRM-6 (15) RT - 1 1.00 @Streak SRM-6 (15) LT - 1 1.00 Free Critical Slots: 7 For the Assault variant, I took the old A variant and replaced both arms with dual LPL arms, courtesy of the Executioner. Now, even though it lost the headshot ability (gained by the Prime variant) and it still has the weakness of the entire loadout being in the arms, it can fill ranks well and is even more of a pain to encounter as it is easy to abuse. Code: ================================================================================ Loadout Name: A Cost: 26,032,800 Tech Rating/Era Availability: F/X-E-E BV2: 2,572 Equipment Type Rating Mass -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Heat Sinks: Double Heat Sink 16(32) 6.00 Actuators: L: SH+UA+LA+H R: SH+UA+LA+H Equipment Location Heat Critical Mass -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 2 Large Pulse Lasers RA 20 4 12.00 2 Large Pulse Lasers LA 20 4 12.00 Free Critical Slots: 9 For the Bombardment variant, I took the Prime variant and exchanged the ERPPC arms with LRM20 ones. The extra two tons went to heatsinks and one of the Streak ammo bins was replaced by an additional LRM20 bin. Code: ================================================================================ Loadout Name: B Cost: 27,669,000 Tech Rating/Era Availability: F/X-E-E BV2: 2,890 Equipment Type Rating Mass -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Heat Sinks: Double Heat Sink 14(28) 4.00 CASE Locations: LT, RT, LA, RA 0.00 Actuators: L: SH+UA R: SH+UA Equipment Location Heat Critical Mass -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- LRM-20 RA 6 4 5.00 Artemis IV FCS RA - 1 1.00 LRM-20 LA 6 4 5.00 Artemis IV FCS LA - 1 1.00 2 ER Medium Lasers RT 10 2 2.00 Streak SRM-6 RT 4 2 3.00 2 ER Medium Lasers LT 10 2 2.00 Streak SRM-6 LT 4 2 3.00 @LRM-20 (Artemis) (6) RA - 1 1.00 @LRM-20 (Artemis) (6) LA - 1 1.00 @LRM-20 (Artemis) (6) RT - 1 1.00 @Streak SRM-6 (15) LT - 1 1.00 Free Critical Slots: 3 For the City variant, I took the old Mad Dog city variant idea and directly transplanted it on the Gargoyle. It fits the theme and damage of the old C variant, but with matching arms this time. Code: ================================================================================ Loadout Name: C Cost: 26,850,000 Tech Rating/Era Availability: F/X-E-E BV2: 2,344 Equipment Type Rating Mass -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- CASE Locations: LT, RT 0.00 Actuators: L: SH+UA R: SH+UA Equipment Location Heat Critical Mass -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Ultra AC/20 RA 7 8 12.00 Ultra AC/20 LA 7 8 12.00 Medium Pulse Laser CT 4 1 2.00 @Ultra AC/20 (10) RT - 2 2.00 @Ultra AC/20 (10) LT - 2 2.00 Free Critical Slots: 12 For the Defense variant, the Gargoyle takes arms from the Executioner again, but this time tries to act like a lighter Warhawk with the 5ERLL theme. While I could forgo the fifth ERLL and put DHSs on the arms, I would have to make a similar arrangement on the Executioner to make it work, so this variant might change. Code: ================================================================================ Loadout Name: D Cost: 26,797,800 Tech Rating/Era Availability: F/X-E-E BV2: 2,819 Equipment Type Rating Mass -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Heat Sinks: Double Heat Sink 16(32) 6.00 Actuators: L: SH+UA+LA+H R: SH+UA+LA+H Equipment Location Heat Critical Mass -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 2 ER Large Lasers RA 24 2 8.00 2 ER Large Lasers LA 24 2 8.00 Targeting Computer RT - 4 4.00 ER Large Laser CT 12 1 4.00 Free Critical Slots: 8 The Gargoyle's Enhanced variant marks the first I've presented where it does more than simply exchange LRMs for ATMs. It keeps the ATM12 of the old variant, but backs it up with quad MPL arms from the Executioner instead of a Streak6, dual Micro lasers, and quad HMLs with a TC assist. Code: ================================================================================ Loadout Name: E Cost: 26,424,300 Tech Rating/Era Availability: F/X-X-E BV2: 2,693 Equipment Type Rating Mass -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Heat Sinks: Double Heat Sink 15(30) 5.00 CASE Locations: RT 0.00 Actuators: L: SH+UA+LA+H R: SH+UA+LA+H Equipment Location Heat Critical Mass -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 4 Medium Pulse Lasers RA 16 4 8.00 4 Medium Pulse Lasers LA 16 4 8.00 ATM-12 RT 8 5 7.00 @ATM-12 (ER) (5) RT - 1 1.00 @ATM-12 (HE) (5) RT - 1 1.00 Free Critical Slots: 4 The Fire variant is a simple switch of the quad MPL arms with dual Plasma arms with a ton of ammo each, again courtesy of the Executioner. The ATM again switches to HE ammo. Code: ================================================================================ Loadout Name: F Cost: 28,224,300 Tech Rating/Era Availability: F/X-X-E BV2: 2,600 Equipment Type Rating Mass -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Heat Sinks: Double Heat Sink 15(30) 5.00 CASE Locations: RT 0.00 Actuators: L: SH+UA+LA+H R: SH+UA+LA+H Equipment Location Heat Critical Mass -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 2 Plasma Cannons RA 14 2 6.00 2 Plasma Cannons LA 14 2 6.00 ATM-12 RT 8 5 7.00 @Plasma Cannon (20) RA - 2 2.00 @Plasma Cannon (20) LA - 2 2.00 @ATM-12 (HE) (10) RT - 2 2.00 Free Critical Slots: 4 For the HAG variant, I followed the same theme as the Mad Dog HAG variant but added four additional ERMLs to volley with. Code: ================================================================================ Loadout Name: G Cost: 27,435,000 Tech Rating/Era Availability: F/X-X-E BV2: 2,772 Equipment Type Rating Mass -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- CASE Locations: LA, RA 0.00 Actuators: L: SH+UA R: SH+UA Equipment Location Heat Critical Mass -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- HAG-20 RA 4 6 10.00 HAG-20 LA 4 6 10.00 3 ER Medium Lasers RT 15 3 3.00 3 ER Medium Lasers LT 15 3 3.00 @HAG-20 (12) RA - 2 2.00 @HAG-20 (12) LA - 2 2.00 Free Critical Slots: 11 For the Heavy Laser variant, I made it like a smaller Executioner, with a dual HLL arm and a Gauss rifle arm. The rest of the space is filled up with heatsinks. Code: ================================================================================ Loadout Name: H Cost: 26,373,900 Tech Rating/Era Availability: F/X-X-E BV2: 2,337 Equipment Type Rating Mass -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Heat Sinks: Double Heat Sink 18(36) 8.00 Heat Sink Locations: 4 LT, 4 RT CASE Locations: LA 0.00 Actuators: L: SH+UA R: SH+UA+LA+H Equipment Location Heat Critical Mass -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 2 Heavy Large Lasers RA 36 6 8.00 Gauss Rifle LA 1 6 12.00 @Gauss Rifle (16) LA - 2 2.00 Free Critical Slots: 1 For Star Colonel Conal Ward's personal variant, I kept the dual ERPPCs of the old variant thanks to a Warhawk Prime arm, but instead of having twin Streak 6s, I made his mech's left arm be a Dire Wolf Prime arm. I was able to give his mech enough heatsinks to be able to fire either arm completely while moving, and most importantly, I was able to keep his preferred electronics, though I upgraded the Light TAG to an original TAG. Code: ================================================================================ Loadout Name: (Conal) Cost: 27,437,250 Tech Rating/Era Availability: F/X-X-E BV2: 2,987 Equipment Type Rating Mass -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Heat Sinks: Double Heat Sink 16(32) 6.00 Actuators: L: SH+UA R: SH+UA Equipment Location Heat Critical Mass -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 2 ER PPCs RA 30 4 12.00 4 ER Medium Lasers LA 20 4 4.00 Large Pulse Laser LA 10 2 6.00 ECM Suite RT 0 1 1.00 TAG RT 0 1 1.00 Free Critical Slots: 9 And finally, I made a jump variant of the Prime loadout, downgrading the Streak6s for Streak4s with one ton of ammo and exchanging one ERML for 4 jump jets. I don't know how possible it will be to represent this with your miniatures, scheinlen, but I hope you like it. Code: ================================================================================ Loadout Name: J Cost: 27,394,500 Tech Rating/Era Availability: F/X-E-E BV2: 2,981 Equipment Type Rating Mass -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Jumping MP: 4 (Standard) Jump Jet Locations: 2 LT, 2 RT 4.00 Heat Sinks: Double Heat Sink 16(32) 6.00 CASE Locations: LT 0.00 Actuators: L: SH+UA R: SH+UA Equipment Location Heat Critical Mass -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- ER PPC RA 15 2 6.00 ER PPC LA 15 2 6.00 ER Medium Laser RT 5 1 1.00 Streak SRM-4 RT 3 1 2.00 ER Medium Laser LT 5 1 1.00 Streak SRM-4 LT 3 1 2.00 ER Medium Laser CT 5 1 1.00 @Streak SRM-4 (25) LT - 1 1.00 Free Critical Slots: 7 Edited by CYBRN4CR (06/01/12 01:48 AM)
scheinlen 05/31/12 11:53 PM 204.111.93.151	Edit Reply Quote Quick Reply I love the J load out, it works for my unit,but I got a Question ...your Prime down grade both 6's to 4 s and lose some ERML s and add 4 JJs? Workable? It is not my job to judge my Enemies, that is there God's job. It is only my duty to arrange the meeting!
CYBRN4CR 06/01/12 12:57 AM 67.204.151.83	Edit Reply Quote Quick Reply Yeah you can easily switch the Streak 2s and two ERMLs for Streak4s, keeping the one ton of ammo and the 5 jumping the same. If you want 4 Jumping, you can switch the CT jet for an ERML for a grand total of 3 ERMLs, 2 Streak4s with one shared ton of ammo, and 4 jets. But as for the Prime loadout, I probably will keep it the same. I edited the J variant to reflect these changes. BTW, before I post the Viper, what exactly are you looking for, scheinlen? Because it already has jump jets. If you are willing to use my design thoughts, I'm planning some pretty radical changes with the Viper, but I do plan to keep its jump ability. Edited by CYBRN4CR (06/01/12 01:52 AM)
CYBRN4CR 06/01/12 04:31 AM 67.204.151.83	Edit Reply Quote Quick Reply And like I promised, here is the Viper. The original Viper base chassis has an 8/12/8 movement profile, with 7 tons of FF, ES, and 10 base DHSs, leaving 8.5 tons available for weapons and equipment. My redesign keeps the armor the same, but downgrades the engine in order to reduce costs and have enough tonnage to mount arms shared between the Kit Fox and Nova. Some of the available tonnage went to a MASC to make up somewhat for the loss in speed and to give the mech characteristic bursts of speed. But the most significant change to the Viper's base chassis I made was to fill the side torsos with ES FF jump jets and DHSs (with the MASC in the CT) to reflect the fact that the Viper has legs for side torsos (because the arms are attached to the legs). Locking the components that way forces weapons and equipment to primarily be in the arms. The Nova and Jenner IIC also have this characteristic to them, and as a result, all these mechs cannot torso twist, but gain a distinct Low Profile bonus due to how low their torsos and heads are to the ground. The Viper is also the first to introduce very light arms for the medium class. With half of the Nova's MPLs (two more than the original Prime) and an Active Probe, the new Prime variant is now more of a pest than ever before. Code: Dragonfly (Viper) (Custom) Mass: 40 tons Tech Base: Clan Chassis Config: Biped Omnimech Rules Level: Tournament Legal Era: Succession Wars Tech Rating/Era Availability: E/X-E-E Production Year: 2940 Cost: 8,652,000 C-Bills Battle Value: 695 Chassis: Unknown Endo-Steel Power Plant: Unknown 240 Fusion XL Engine Walking Speed: 64.8 km/h Maximum Speed: 97.2 km/h (129.6 km/h) Jump Jets: Unknown Jump Capacity: 180 meters Armor: Unknown Ferro-Fibrous Armament: 13.0 tons of pod space. Manufacturer: Unknown Primary Factory: Unknown Communications System: Unknown Targeting and Tracking System: Unknown Overview: Redesigned by CYBRN4CR ================================================================================ Equipment Type Rating Mass -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Internal Structure: Endo-Steel 67 points 2.00 Internal Locations: 3 LT, 2 RT, 1 LL, 1 RL Engine: XL Fusion Engine 240 6.00 Walking MP: 6 Running MP: 9 (12) Jumping MP: 6 Standard Jump Jet Locations: 3 LT, 3 RT 3.00 Heat Sinks: Double Heat Sink 11(22) 1.00 Heat Sink Locations: 1 LT, 1 RT Gyro: Standard 3.00 Cockpit: Standard 3.00 Actuators: L: SH+UA R: SH+UA Armor: Ferro-Fibrous AV - 134 7.00 Armor Locations: 2 LT, 3 RT, 1 LL, 1 RL Internal Armor Structure Factor Head 3 8 Center Torso 12 20 Center Torso (rear) 4 L/R Torso 10 15 L/R Torso (rear) 4 L/R Arm 6 12 L/R Leg 10 20 ================================================================================ Equipment Location Heat Critical Mass -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- MASC CT - 2 2.00 Free Critical Slots: 21 ================================================================================ Loadout Name: Prime Cost: 9,741,200 Tech Rating/Era Availability: F/X-E-E BV2: 2,229 Equipment Type Rating Mass -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Jumping MP: 6 (Standard) Jump Jet Locations: 3 LT, 3 RT 0.00 Heat Sinks: Double Heat Sink 13(26) 2.00 Heat Sink Locations: 1 LT, 1 RT, 2 RA Actuators: L: SH+UA+LA+H R: SH+UA+LA+H Equipment Location Heat Critical Mass -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 4 Medium Pulse Lasers RA 16 4 8.00 2 ER Medium Lasers LA 10 2 2.00 MASC CT - 2 2.00 Active Probe HD 0 1 1.00 Free Critical Slots: 6 The Assault variant of the Viper follows a pattern similar to the old Prime variant of the Nova. Lots of ER lasers more than the heatsinks can handle - to the point of shutdown. Funny how it gains this trait from an old Nova arm complete with 6 ERMLs. Code: ================================================================================ Loadout Name: A Cost: 10,150,700 Tech Rating/Era Availability: F/X-E-E BV2: 2,631 Equipment Type Rating Mass -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Jumping MP: 6 (Standard) Jump Jet Locations: 3 LT, 3 RT 0.00 Heat Sinks: Double Heat Sink 12(24) 1.00 Heat Sink Locations: 1 LT, 1 RT, 1 RA Actuators: L: SH+UA+LA+H R: SH+UA+LA+H Equipment Location Heat Critical Mass -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 6 ER Medium Lasers RA 30 6 6.00 2 ER Medium Lasers LA 10 2 2.00 MASC CT - 2 2.00 ER Large Laser HD 12 1 4.00 Free Critical Slots: 6 The Bombardment variant utilizes a shared LRM20/dual ERML arm as it's primary source of damage. This is mated with another two ERMLs and an Active Probe so no one can hide from its barrage. Code: ================================================================================ Loadout Name: B Cost: 10,281,600 Tech Rating/Era Availability: F/X-E-E BV2: 2,374 Equipment Type Rating Mass -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Jumping MP: 6 (Standard) Jump Jet Locations: 3 LT, 3 RT 0.00 Heat Sinks: Double Heat Sink 12(24) 1.00 Heat Sink Locations: 1 LT, 1 RT, 1 RA CASE Locations: RA 0.00 Actuators: L: SH+UA+LA+H R: SH+UA Equipment Location Heat Critical Mass -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- LRM-20 RA 6 4 5.00 Artemis IV FCS RA - 1 1.00 2 ER Medium Lasers RA 10 2 2.00 2 ER Medium Lasers LA 10 2 2.00 MASC CT - 2 2.00 Active Probe HD 0 1 1.00 @LRM-20 (Artemis) (6) RA - 1 1.00 Free Critical Slots: 6 The City variant of the Viper keeps the all important Active Probe, but it mounts unique arms that have yet to be used by any other mech. These arms make this variant a very flexible fighter against light and unarmored targets. Code: ================================================================================ Loadout Name: C Cost: 9,765,700 Tech Rating/Era Availability: F/X-E-E BV2: 1,926 Equipment Type Rating Mass -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Jumping MP: 6 (Standard) Jump Jet Locations: 3 LT, 3 RT 0.00 Heat Sinks: Double Heat Sink 13(26) 2.00 Heat Sink Locations: 1 LT, 1 RT, 1 LA, 1 RA Actuators: L: SH+UA+LA+H R: SH+UA+LA+H Equipment Location Heat Critical Mass -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 2 ER Medium Lasers RA 10 2 2.00 2 Small Pulse Lasers RA 4 2 2.00 2 Flamers RA 6 2 1.00 2 ER Medium Lasers LA 10 2 2.00 2 Small Pulse Lasers LA 4 2 2.00 2 Flamers LA 6 2 1.00 MASC CT - 2 2.00 Active Probe HD 0 1 1.00 Free Critical Slots: 0 The Defense variant uses a newly created triple Streak 6 arm (with two tons of ammo) to deal critical damage to anyone who gets close to its position. However, it lacks a long range weapon, so warriors must account for that. Code: ================================================================================ Loadout Name: D Cost: 9,667,700 Tech Rating/Era Availability: F/X-E-E BV2: 2,075 Equipment Type Rating Mass -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Jumping MP: 6 (Standard) Jump Jet Locations: 3 LT, 3 RT 0.00 CASE Locations: RA 0.00 Actuators: L: SH+UA+LA+H R: SH+UA+LA+H Equipment Location Heat Critical Mass -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 3 Streak SRM-6s RA 12 6 9.00 2 ER Medium Lasers LA 10 2 2.00 MASC CT - 2 2.00 @Streak SRM-6 (30) RA - 2 2.00 Free Critical Slots: 7 The Enhanced variant of the Viper follows the same pattern as all the other ATM switches, changing only the LRM unit for an ATM unit and ammo of equal critical space. Code: ================================================================================ Loadout Name: E Cost: 10,062,850 Tech Rating/Era Availability: F/X-X-E BV2: 2,209 Equipment Type Rating Mass -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Jumping MP: 6 (Standard) Jump Jet Locations: 3 LT, 3 RT 0.00 Heat Sinks: Double Heat Sink 12(24) 1.00 Heat Sink Locations: 1 LT, 1 RT, 1 RA CASE Locations: RA 0.00 Actuators: L: SH+UA+LA+H R: SH+UA Equipment Location Heat Critical Mass -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- ATM-9 RA 6 4 5.00 2 ER Medium Lasers RA 10 2 2.00 2 ER Medium Lasers LA 10 2 2.00 MASC CT - 2 2.00 Active Probe HD 0 1 1.00 @ATM-9 (ER) (7) RA - 1 1.00 @ATM-9 (HE) (7) RA - 1 1.00 Free Critical Slots: 6 The Fire variant of the Viper uses a shared twin Plasma Cannon arm to chase down infantry and light vehicles, and worry mechs of equal or heavier tonnage with heat effects. It keeps the ERMLs and Active Probe of the Prime variant. Code: ================================================================================ Loadout Name: F Cost: 10,441,200 Tech Rating/Era Availability: F/X-X-E BV2: 2,087 Equipment Type Rating Mass -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Jumping MP: 6 (Standard) Jump Jet Locations: 3 LT, 3 RT 0.00 Heat Sinks: Double Heat Sink 13(26) 2.00 Heat Sink Locations: 1 LT, 1 RT, 2 RA Actuators: L: SH+UA+LA+H R: SH+UA+LA+H Equipment Location Heat Critical Mass -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 2 Plasma Cannons RA 14 2 6.00 2 ER Medium Lasers LA 10 2 2.00 MASC CT - 2 2.00 Active Probe HD 0 1 1.00 @Plasma Cannon (20) RA - 2 2.00 Free Critical Slots: 6 The AP Gauss variant of the Viper has an arm unique to the Jade Falcon forces with 8 AP Gausses and two tons of ammo. Filling the tonnage on the other arm is an old Nova Prime arm, making this variant able to deal as much potential damage as the Assault variant above but with less heat. Code: ================================================================================ Loadout Name: G Cost: 9,739,100 Tech Rating/Era Availability: F/X-X-E BV2: 2,268 Equipment Type Rating Mass -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Jumping MP: 6 (Standard) Jump Jet Locations: 3 LT, 3 RT 0.00 Heat Sinks: Double Heat Sink 12(24) 1.00 Heat Sink Locations: 1 LT, 1 RT, 1 LA CASE Locations: RA 0.00 Actuators: L: SH+UA+LA+H R: SH+UA Equipment Location Heat Critical Mass -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 8 AP Gauss Rifles RA 8 8 4.00 6 ER Medium Lasers LA 30 6 6.00 MASC CT - 2 2.00 @AP Gauss Rifle (80) RA - 2 2.00 Free Critical Slots: 1 And finally the Heavy Laser variant uses a shared twin HLL arm, keeping the twin ERMLs of the Prime. Instead of an Active Probe like the Prime, this variant sports an ECM suite instead. Code: ================================================================================ Loadout Name: H Cost: 10,187,100 Tech Rating/Era Availability: F/X-X-E BV2: 2,151 Equipment Type Rating Mass -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Jumping MP: 6 (Standard) Jump Jet Locations: 3 LT, 3 RT 0.00 Heat Sinks: Double Heat Sink 13(26) 2.00 Heat Sink Locations: 1 LT, 1 RT, 2 RA Actuators: L: SH+UA+LA+H R: SH+UA Equipment Location Heat Critical Mass -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 2 Heavy Large Lasers RA 36 6 8.00 2 ER Medium Lasers LA 10 2 2.00 MASC CT - 2 2.00 ECM Suite HD 0 1 1.00 Free Critical Slots: 6 Well, what do you think scheinlen? Does this Viper seem like it will suit your needs?
CYBRN4CR 06/03/12 04:05 PM 67.204.151.83	Edit Reply Quote Quick Reply Wow, uh, no one wants to comment on the Viper changes? Not even you scheinlen? I hope the changes I made to the base chassis weren't TOO radical?
scheinlen 06/06/12 01:31 AM 204.111.93.109	Edit Reply Quote Quick Reply How about a 2x MPL RA, Streak 6 LA , ECM and a ER LL CT, plus JJs? It is not my job to judge my Enemies, that is there God's job. It is only my duty to arrange the meeting!
CYBRN4CR 06/06/12 03:27 AM 67.204.151.83	Edit Reply Quote Quick Reply I suppose I can cook up another SS variant for you. Give me a day to cook one up.
CYBRN4CR 06/06/12 05:34 PM 67.204.151.83	Edit Reply Quote Quick Reply Okay. Here it is. I had to shift the ERLL to the Streak arm because there was no space in the CT due to the MASC. However if you want the ERLL in the head instead of the ECM to reflect your model, you can always switch their positions on the record sheet. Attachment (187 downloads)
CYBRN4CR 06/17/12 07:47 AM 67.204.151.83	Edit Reply Quote Quick Reply I noticed I haven't posted here in a bit. Let me continue with the Nova. The original Nova base chassis has a 5/8/5 movement profile, 10 tons of standard armor, and 14 base DHSs, leaving 16 tons available for weapons and equipment. My redesign gives the Nova much needed ES/FF to increase the available tons and to represent the fact that the Nova has legs for torsos, much like I did with the Viper or Jenner IIC. Like those mechs, the Nova also can't torso twist. However, it does have a very distinctive low profile, giving it an edge over most mechs in the medium category. For the Prime variant, I replaced the ERMLs with 8 MPLs and 4 DHSs which isn't like the Nova's namesake, but it soundly spanked the original in a fair fight, and the Clan's can't ignore that. It also is devastating in a city where it can use its jets to gain LOS and blast away with everything before jumping away. Code: Black Hawk (Nova) (Custom) Mass: 50 tons Tech Base: Clan Chassis Config: Biped Omnimech Rules Level: Tournament Legal Era: Succession Wars Tech Rating/Era Availability: E/X-E-E Production Year: 2870 Cost: 9,960,625 C-Bills Battle Value: 772 Chassis: Unknown Endo-Steel Power Plant: Unknown 250 Fusion XL Engine Walking Speed: 54.0 km/h Maximum Speed: 86.4 km/h Jump Jets: Unknown Jump Capacity: 150 meters Armor: Unknown Ferro-Fibrous Armament: 20.0 tons of pod space. Manufacturer: Unknown Primary Factory: Unknown Communications System: Unknown Targeting and Tracking System: Unknown Overview: Redesigned by CYBRN4CR ================================================================================ Equipment Type Rating Mass -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Internal Structure: Endo-Steel 83 points 2.50 Internal Locations: 1 CT, 2 LT, 2 RT, 1 LL, 1 RL Engine: XL Fusion Engine 250 6.50 Walking MP: 5 Running MP: 8 Jumping MP: 5 Standard Jump Jet Locations: 1 CT, 2 LT, 2 RT 2.50 Heat Sinks: Double Heat Sink 14(28) 4.00 Heat Sink Locations: 2 LT, 2 RT Gyro: Standard 3.00 Cockpit: Standard 3.00 Actuators: L: SH+UA R: SH+UA Armor: Ferro-Fibrous AV - 163 8.50 Armor Locations: 1 HD, 2 LT, 2 RT, 1 LL, 1 RL Internal Armor Structure Factor Head 3 9 Center Torso 16 24 Center Torso (rear) 6 L/R Torso 12 16 L/R Torso (rear) 6 L/R Arm 8 16 L/R Leg 12 24 ================================================================================ Loadout Name: Prime Cost: 10,930,000 Tech Rating/Era Availability: F/X-E-E BV2: 2,335 Equipment Type Rating Mass -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Jumping MP: 5 (Standard) Jump Jet Locations: 1 CT, 2 LT, 2 RT 0.00 Heat Sinks: Double Heat Sink 18(36) 4.00 Heat Sink Locations: 2 LT, 2 RT, 2 LA, 2 RA Actuators: L: SH+UA+LA+H R: SH+UA+LA+H Equipment Location Heat Critical Mass -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 4 Medium Pulse Lasers RA 16 4 8.00 4 Medium Pulse Lasers LA 16 4 8.00 Free Critical Slots: 0 The Assault variant of the Nova, was intentionally designed to have two distinct firing groups. One arm for perpetual long range sniping, the other (a very familiar arm indeed) for closer ranged damage spread. It is nice to note I was able to keep the Nova's namesake trait with this variant if the warrior so chooses. Code: ================================================================================ Loadout Name: A Cost: 12,020,313 Tech Rating/Era Availability: F/X-E-E BV2: 2,887 Equipment Type Rating Mass -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Jumping MP: 5 (Standard) Jump Jet Locations: 1 CT, 2 LT, 2 RT 0.00 Heat Sinks: Double Heat Sink 16(32) 2.00 Heat Sink Locations: 2 LT, 2 RT, 1 LA, 1 RA Actuators: L: SH+UA+LA+H R: SH+UA Equipment Location Heat Critical Mass -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 2 ER PPCs RA 30 4 12.00 6 ER Medium Lasers LA 30 6 6.00 Free Critical Slots: 4 Forgoing the trademark hands, the Bombardment variant of the Nova, has twin LRM20 2ERML arms for a very Catapult feel. With missiles as the primary damagers and only 6 shots per weapon, it needs to place its shots well before resorting to jumping and firing the lasers. Code: ================================================================================ Loadout Name: B Cost: 12,083,125 Tech Rating/Era Availability: F/X-E-E BV2: 2,556 Equipment Type Rating Mass -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Jumping MP: 5 (Standard) Jump Jet Locations: 1 CT, 2 LT, 2 RT 0.00 Heat Sinks: Double Heat Sink 16(32) 2.00 Heat Sink Locations: 2 LT, 2 RT, 1 LA, 1 RA CASE Locations: LA, RA 0.00 Actuators: L: SH+UA R: SH+UA Equipment Location Heat Critical Mass -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- LRM-20 RA 6 4 5.00 Artemis IV FCS RA - 1 1.00 2 ER Medium Lasers RA 10 2 2.00 LRM-20 LA 6 4 5.00 Artemis IV FCS LA - 1 1.00 2 ER Medium Lasers LA 10 2 2.00 @LRM-20 (Artemis) (6) RA - 1 1.00 @LRM-20 (Artemis) (6) LA - 1 1.00 Free Critical Slots: 0 The Nova's City variant is a simple exchange of the ERPPCs in the Assault variant for LPLs. It may not be the best variant in a city compared to other City variants, but it can be patient with the all energy loadout and chip away at armor at range with the LPLs on top of roofs. Code: ================================================================================ Loadout Name: C Cost: 11,551,563 Tech Rating/Era Availability: F/X-E-E BV2: 2,560 Equipment Type Rating Mass -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Jumping MP: 5 (Standard) Jump Jet Locations: 1 CT, 2 LT, 2 RT 0.00 Heat Sinks: Double Heat Sink 16(32) 2.00 Heat Sink Locations: 2 LT, 2 RT, 1 LA, 1 RA Actuators: L: SH+UA+LA+H R: SH+UA Equipment Location Heat Critical Mass -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 2 Large Pulse Lasers RA 20 4 12.00 6 ER Medium Lasers LA 30 6 6.00 Free Critical Slots: 4 The Nova's Defense variant mounts a UAC10 arm, which it can afford to have if it is never far from resupply, and can fire more weapons more frequently than the Assault or City variants thanks to the reduced heat concerns of the cannon. Code: ================================================================================ Loadout Name: D Cost: 11,589,063 Tech Rating/Era Availability: F/X-E-E BV2: 2,373 Equipment Type Rating Mass -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Jumping MP: 5 (Standard) Jump Jet Locations: 1 CT, 2 LT, 2 RT 0.00 Heat Sinks: Double Heat Sink 16(32) 2.00 Heat Sink Locations: 2 LT, 2 RT, 1 LA, 1 RA CASE Locations: RA 0.00 Actuators: L: SH+UA+LA+H R: SH+UA Equipment Location Heat Critical Mass -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Ultra AC/10 RA 3 4 10.00 6 ER Medium Lasers LA 30 6 6.00 @Ultra AC/10 (20) RA - 2 2.00 Free Critical Slots: 2 Like the Enhanced switches I presented before, this variant exchanges the LRMs for equal weight, equal space, equal heat ATMs. Code: ================================================================================ Loadout Name: E Cost: 11,614,375 Tech Rating/Era Availability: F/X-X-E BV2: 2,303 Equipment Type Rating Mass -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Jumping MP: 5 (Standard) Jump Jet Locations: 1 CT, 2 LT, 2 RT 0.00 Heat Sinks: Double Heat Sink 16(32) 2.00 Heat Sink Locations: 2 LT, 2 RT, 1 LA, 1 RA CASE Locations: LA, RA 0.00 Actuators: L: SH+UA R: SH+UA Equipment Location Heat Critical Mass -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- ATM-9 RA 6 4 5.00 2 ER Medium Lasers RA 10 2 2.00 ATM-9 LA 6 4 5.00 2 ER Medium Lasers LA 10 2 2.00 @ATM-9 (ER) (7) RA - 1 1.00 @ATM-9 (HE) (7) RA - 1 1.00 @ATM-9 (ER) (7) LA - 1 1.00 @ATM-9 (HE) (7) LA - 1 1.00 Free Critical Slots: 0 Based off the Prime variant, the Fire variant exchanges one arm for a twin Plasma Cannon arm. It is important to note that it can fire everything while jumping if needed. Code: ================================================================================ Loadout Name: F Cost: 11,680,000 Tech Rating/Era Availability: F/X-X-E BV2: 2,225 Equipment Type Rating Mass -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Jumping MP: 5 (Standard) Jump Jet Locations: 1 CT, 2 LT, 2 RT 0.00 Heat Sinks: Double Heat Sink 18(36) 4.00 Heat Sink Locations: 2 LT, 2 RT, 2 LA, 2 RA Actuators: L: SH+UA+LA+H R: SH+UA+LA+H Equipment Location Heat Critical Mass -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 2 Plasma Cannons RA 14 2 6.00 4 Medium Pulse Lasers LA 16 4 8.00 @Plasma Cannon (20) RA - 2 2.00 Free Critical Slots: 0 The HAG variant that started the medium/light mech HAG20 arm in the first place, it is equally at home sandblasting from afar or blasting away with it's old familiar arm if anyone gets close. Code: ================================================================================ Loadout Name: G Cost: 11,739,063 Tech Rating/Era Availability: F/X-X-E BV2: 2,498 Equipment Type Rating Mass -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Jumping MP: 5 (Standard) Jump Jet Locations: 1 CT, 2 LT, 2 RT 0.00 Heat Sinks: Double Heat Sink 16(32) 2.00 Heat Sink Locations: 2 LT, 2 RT, 1 LA, 1 RA CASE Locations: RA 0.00 Actuators: L: SH+UA+LA+H R: SH+UA Equipment Location Heat Critical Mass -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- HAG-20 RA 4 6 10.00 6 ER Medium Lasers LA 30 6 6.00 @HAG-20 (12) RA - 2 2.00 Free Critical Slots: 0 And finally, the Heavy Laser variant is the other variant where I kept the shut down after a blazing flash of light trait of the original. Not terribly popular, but is available. Code: ================================================================================ Loadout Name: H Cost: 11,880,625 Tech Rating/Era Availability: F/X-X-E BV2: 2,275 Equipment Type Rating Mass -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Jumping MP: 5 (Standard) Jump Jet Locations: 1 CT, 2 LT, 2 RT 0.00 Heat Sinks: Double Heat Sink 18(36) 4.00 Heat Sink Locations: 2 LT, 2 RT, 2 LA, 2 RA Actuators: L: SH+UA R: SH+UA Equipment Location Heat Critical Mass -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 2 Heavy Large Lasers RA 36 6 8.00 2 Heavy Large Lasers LA 36 6 8.00 Free Critical Slots: 0
scheinlen 06/17/12 10:52 PM 68.251.185.250	Edit Reply Quote Quick Reply How much of a change would the H be if it had manly Medium heavy lasers and 2 small pulse lasers ? It is not my job to judge my Enemies, that is there God's job. It is only my duty to arrange the meeting!
CYBRN4CR 06/17/12 11:50 PM 67.204.151.83	Edit Reply Quote Quick Reply It would have to be an equal combo of 6HMLs and 6MPLs with 2 1t 1c items in the arms order for that to work, but it would have 40 overheat (68 - 28 = 40) and over 100 in potential damage at close range. It could be good, but I suppose I like the simplicity of the quad HLL loadout with enough heatsinks to fire one set of two at any one time. There is another option. I could do a loadout like the HAG variant with 5 HMLs in one arm and a Gauss rifle with 2 tons of ammo and 1 DHS in the other. It deals roughly the same damage with only 8 overheat while running, and is much more desirable, but maybe not Nova like. Then again, if that was my focus, then I would have loaded up on lasers on the other variants and not even bother with heatsinks. So here is the second idea for the H variant. Code: ================================================================================ Loadout Name: H Cost: 11,565,625 Tech Rating/Era Availability: F/X-X-E BV2: 2,144 Equipment Type Rating Mass -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Jumping MP: 5 (Standard) Jump Jet Locations: 1 CT, 2 LT, 2 RT 0.00 Heat Sinks: Double Heat Sink 15(30) 1.00 Heat Sink Locations: 2 LT, 2 RT, 1 RA CASE Locations: RA 0.00 Actuators: L: SH+UA R: SH+UA Equipment Location Heat Critical Mass -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Gauss Rifle RA 1 6 12.00 5 Heavy Medium Lasers LA 35 10 5.00 @Gauss Rifle (16) RA - 2 2.00 Free Critical Slots: 0
scheinlen 06/18/12 01:25 PM 69.208.131.118	Edit Reply Quote Quick Reply I have run a pair of Novas in tournaments before using the alpha strike to just aim for head shots. Overheat yes, enemy survival “0”. What config can you give me in med. Hvy. Lasers that hits hard, yet, will not over heat as bad as the regular prime? What I liked about the 2 Novas was the speed and the awesome alpha strike I could do at a cockpit… now that I miss placed one of my Novas I need to look at my mechs for a pair to run that I can still do the same thing. It is not my job to judge my Enemies, that is there God's job. It is only my duty to arrange the meeting!
CYBRN4CR 06/19/12 05:26 AM 67.204.151.83	Edit Reply Quote Quick Reply Take the one I reconfigured above. It has more weapons than the 4HLL version, giving you more chances of hitting the head. It has a headcapper at range, so you are not limited to the range and targeting issues of the HMLs, and it runs relatively cool compared to the alternative H options. That's about the best I can do with 20 tons that can only be placed in the arms. Otherwise, take the 6HML 6MPL option if you're not shy of shutting down.
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