ATN082268
05/13/13 11:22 AM
69.129.18.69
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BattleMech Technical Readout
Type/Model: Ultimate Tournament 'Mech
Tech: Clan / 3070
Config: Biped BattleMech
Rules: Level 3, Custom design
Mass: 100 tons
Chassis: Endo Steel
Power Plant: 300 Fusion
Walking Speed: 32.4 km/h
Maximum Speed: 54.0 km/h
Jump Jets: 5 Improved Jump Jets
Jump Capacity: 150 meters
Armor Type: Ferro-Fibrous
Armament:
2 Large Pulse Lasers
6 Medium Pulse Lasers
Manufacturer: (Unknown)
Location: (Unknown)
Communications System: (Unknown)
Targeting & Tracking System: (Unknown)
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Type/Model: Ultimate Tournament 'Mech
Mass: 100 tons
Equipment: Crits Mass
Int. Struct.: 152 pts Endo Steel 7 5.00
(Endo Steel Loc: 2 LA, 4 RA, 1 LT)
Engine: 300 Fusion 6 19.00
Walking MP: 3
Running MP: 5
Jumping MP: 5
Heat Sinks: 15 Double [30] 6 5.00
(Heat Sink Loc: 1 LA, 2 LT)
Gyro: 4 3.00
Cockpit, Life Supt.: 5 3.00
Actuators: L: Sh+UA+LA+H R: Sh+UA+LA+H 16 .00
Armor Factor: 304 pts Ferro-Fibrous 7 16.00
(Armor Crit Loc: 1 HD, 3 LA, 3 RA)
Internal Armor
Structure Value
Head: 3 9
Center Torso: 31 46
Center Torso (Rear): 15
L/R Side Torso: 21 32/32
L/R Side Torso (Rear): 10/10
L/R Arm: 17 34/34
L/R Leg: 21 41/41
Weapons and Equipment Loc Heat Ammo Crits Mass
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1 Large Pulse Laser RT 10 2 6.00
3 Medium Pulse Lasers RT 12 3 6.00
1 Large Pulse Laser LT 10 2 6.00
3 Medium Pulse Lasers LT 12 3 6.00
1 Targeting Computer RT 5 5.00
5 Improved Jump Jets: 10 20.00
(Jump Jet Loc: 1 LT, 1 RT, 1 CT, 1 LL, 1 RL)
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TOTALS: 44 76 100.00
Crits & Tons Left: 2 .00
Calculated Factors:
Total Cost: 12,492,000 C-Bills
Battle Value 2: 3,344 (old BV = 3,023)
Cost per BV2: 3,735.65
Weapon Value: 6,126 / 6,126 (Ratio = 1.83 / 1.83)
Damage Factors: SRDmg = 44; MRDmg = 33; LRDmg = 14
BattleForce2: MP: 3J, Armor/Structure: 8/8
Damage PB/M/L: 7/5/2, Overheat: 3
Class: MA; Point Value: 33
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Rotwang
05/13/13 06:11 PM
94.227.126.162
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Total Warfare nerfed the Pulse Laser/TC combo ... And a fast jump jet capable mech with ER Large Lasers or ER PPC's will probably take it out.
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Karagin
05/13/13 10:36 PM
72.178.85.122
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And user made mechs aren't tournament legal for CGL approved and sponsored tournaments...so the mech is nerfed from the start...now for NON-official tournaments aka the ones run at conventions without any support of CGL and allow user made mechs, far and few there of those type of game at a convention, I dare say it's nerfed because another min-max player would arrive with their uber and take it out.
Karagin
Given time and plenty of paper, a philosopher can prove anything.
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ATN082268
05/15/13 03:31 PM
69.129.18.69
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Quote:
And user made mechs aren't tournament legal for CGL approved and sponsored tournaments...so the mech is nerfed from the start...now for NON-official tournaments aka the ones run at conventions without any support of CGL and allow user made mechs, far and few there of those type of game at a convention, I dare say it's nerfed because another min-max player would arrive with their uber and take it out.
You missed the point. The legality of custom 'Mechs in official tournments wasn't the issue although there is always the possibility of a rules change... I think your blanket statement of any custom 'Mech taking out the Ultimate Tournament 'Mech is absurd, given you don't know what the other custom design is 
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Karagin
05/15/13 06:19 PM
72.178.85.122
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Which leds to the point of folks abusing loop holes in the rules or building a mech that is nothing but alpha strike after alpha strike which takes the fun out the game. And your wording lends to the idea that you think a tournament allows player made mechs, when it does not. So perhaps you might want to reword your statement to be less board in coverage.
There is NO ultimate tournament mechs since different things come into play from terrain, to the player themselves, to luck of the dice, to the P/G of the pilot, to how well versed in tactical thinking the player is and how calm they stay if they happen to lose their uber weapon(s) and then you are forgetting that tournaments have time limits.
So no my blanket statement stands, a player built mech will 8 times out 10 beat the book mechs since the player that wants to win all the time will min-max their creation versus the canon mechs which are built to be average for the most part with a few golden eggs here or there, because the BT universe is suppose to be average and normal as far as mechs etc...go. Other wise it would be a one shot one kill game system.
Karagin
Given time and plenty of paper, a philosopher can prove anything.
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Mekslayer
05/15/13 09:26 PM
108.205.201.188
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Well ... though it is kinda a munchkin mech... whats wrong with putting it out there...
I'd rather see the munchy mechs so that ... it brings up the point that maybe the rules have too many loopholes... rather than tell someone his mech is "just wrong".
There is a continious grade of what defines a munchy mech. One illegale mech is great to one player and hated by another.
Why not just start a tournament with design rules and see what comes up. Or worse use canon mechs like the Clint IIC 2 and have everyone rain on your parade.
Still a munchy mech ATN... but glad you put your design out there. Let me know if you want to test it.
-Mek
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