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AeroTech 2 Vessel Technical Readout
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Class/Model/Name: Overlord Class Carrier
Tech: Inner Sphere / 3100
Vessel Type: WarShip
Rules: Level 2, Standard design
Rules Set: AeroTech2
Mass: 2,500,000 tons
K-F Drive System: (Unknown)
Length: 2,500 meters
Power Plant: Standard
Safe Thrust: 3
Maximum Thrust: 5
Armor Type: Lamellor Ferro-carbide
Armament:
80 ER Large Laser
160 Small Laser
80 ER PPC
8 Heavy NPPC
4 AR10 Launcher
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==Overview:==
Carries four Titan Class Dropships as part of it's normal combat load. Which
adds addtional fighters to it's load out.
The Overlord Class Carrier is the ultimate ship in it's weight range and far
out classes everything else.
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Class/Model/Name: Overlord Class Carrier
Mass: 2,500,000 tons
Equipment: Mass
Power Plant, Drive & Control: 450,000.00
Thrust: Safe Thrust: 3
Maximum Thrust: 5
Kearny-Fuchida Hyperdrive: Compact (Integrity = 47) 1,131,250.00
Jump Sail: No Sail (Fusion-Charged K-F) .00
Structural Integrity: 150 375,000.00
Total Heat Sinks: 2,100 Double 1,107.00
Fuel & Fuel Pumps: 8,160.00
Bridge, Controls, Radar, Computer & Attitude Thrusters: 6,250.00
Fire Control Computers: 2,804.00
Food & Water: (400 days supply) 14,062.00
Hyperpulse Generator: 50.00
Armor Type: Lamellor Ferro-carbide (7,590 total armor pts) 7,500.00
Capital Scale Armor Pts
Location: L / R
Fore: 1,391
Fore-Left/Right: 1,265/1,265
Aft-Left/Right: 1,265/1,265
Aft: 1,139
Cargo:
Bay 1: Fighters (900) with 3 doors 135,000.00
Fighters (300) 45,000.00
Bay 2: Fighters (900) with 3 doors 135,000.00
Bay 3: Fighters (900) with 2 doors 135,000.00
Small Craft (12) 2,400.00
Bay 4: Cargo (1) 5,605.00
DropShip Capacity: 4 Docking Hardpoints 4,000.00
Grav Decks #1 - 4: (800-meter diameter) 2,000.00
Grav Decks #5 - 6: (250-meter diameter) 200.00
Grav Decks #7 - 8: (100-meter diameter) 200.00
Life Boats: 100 (7 tons each) 700.00
Escape Pods: 20 (7 tons each) 140.00
Crew and Passengers:
105 Officers (104 minimum) 1,050.00
440 Crew (440 minimum) 3,080.00
66 Gunners (66 minimum) 462.00
20 1st Class Passengers 200.00
20 2nd Class Passengers 140.00
20 Steerage Passengers 100.00
300 Marines 1,500.00
6,060 Bay Personnel .00
Weapons and Equipment Loc SRV MRV LRV ERV Heat Mass
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20 ER Large Laser Nose 16(160)16(160)16(160) -- 240 100.00
20 Small Laser Nose 6(60) -- -- -- 20 10.00
20 ER PPC Nose 20(200)20(200)20(200) -- 300 140.00
2 Heavy NPPC FL/R 30 30 30 30 900 12,000.00
1 AR10 (10 KW, 10 WS, 20 B)FL/R * * * * 40 3,500.00
20 Small Laser FL/R 6(60) -- -- -- 40 20.00
20 ER Large Laser L/RBS 16(160)16(160)16(160) -- 480 200.00
20 Small Laser L/RBS 6(60) -- -- -- 40 20.00
20 ER PPC L/RBS 20(200)20(200)20(200) -- 600 280.00
2 Heavy NPPC AL/R 30 30 30 30 900 12,000.00
1 AR10 (10 KW, 10 WS, 20 B)AL/R * * * * 40 3,500.00
20 Small Laser AL/R 6(60) -- -- -- 40 20.00
20 ER Large Laser Aft 16(160)16(160)16(160) -- 240 100.00
20 Small Laser Aft 6(60) -- -- -- 20 10.00
20 ER PPC Aft 20(200)20(200)20(200) -- 300 140.00
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TOTALS: Heat: 4,200 2,500,000.00
Tons Left: .00
Calculated Factors:
Total Cost: 9,998,542,000 C-Bills
Battle Value: 177,248
Cost per BV: 56,409.9
Weapon Value: 166,821 (Ratio = .94)
Damage Factors: SRV = 3,007; MRV = 2,287; LRV = 1,382; ERV = 394
Maintenance: Maintenance Point Value (MPV) = 1,865,401
(865,606 Structure, 914,675 Life Support, 85,120 Weapons)
Support Points (SP) = 705,853 (38% of MPV)
BattleForce2: Not applicable
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AeroTech 2 Vessel Technical Readout
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Class/Model/Name: Ultor Class Battleship Kraken
Tech: Inner Sphere / 3100
Vessel Type: WarShip
Rules: Level 2, Standard design
Rules Set: AeroTech2
Mass: 2,500,000 tons
K-F Drive System: (Unknown)
Length: 1,586 meters
Sail Diameter: 1,582 meters
Power Plant: Standard
Safe Thrust: 3
Maximum Thrust: 5
Armor Type: Lamellor Ferro-carbide
Armament:
96 Heavy NPPC
2 Heavy N-Gauss
4 AR10 Launcher
8 NAC/35
120 Small Laser
160 Gauss Rifle
80 LRM 20+ArtIV
80 ER Large Laser
16 NL35
40 Large Pulse Laser
40 Small Pulse Laser
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Class/Model/Name: Ultor Class Battleship Kraken
Mass: 2,500,000 tons
Equipment: Mass
Power Plant, Drive & Control: 450,000.00
Thrust: Safe Thrust: 3
Maximum Thrust: 5
Kearny-Fuchida Hyperdrive: Compact (Integrity = 47) 1,131,250.00
Lithium Fusion Battery 25,000.00
Jump Sail: (Integrity = 9) 155.00
Structural Integrity: 150 375,000.00
Total Heat Sinks: 15,000 Double 14,007.00
Fuel & Fuel Pumps: 10,200.00
Bridge, Controls, Radar, Computer & Attitude Thrusters: 6,250.00
Fire Control Computers: 66,334.00
Food & Water: (400 days supply) 3,436.00
Hyperpulse Generator: 50.00
Armor Type: Lamellor Ferro-carbide (7,590 total armor pts) 7,500.00
Capital Scale Armor Pts
Location: L / R
Fore: 1,391
Fore-Left/Right: 1,265/1,265
Aft-Left/Right: 1,265/1,265
Aft: 1,139
Cargo:
Bay 1: Fighters (72) with 4 doors 10,800.00
Bay 2: Small Craft (6) 1,200.00
Fighters (72) with 4 doors 10,800.00
Bay 3: Cargo (1) 17,484.00
Grav Decks #1 - 4: (500-meter diameter) 2,000.00
Grav Decks #5 - 8: (250-meter diameter) 400.00
Grav Decks #9 - 12: (100-meter diameter) 400.00
Life Boats: 100 (7 tons each) 700.00
Escape Pods: 100 (7 tons each) 700.00
Crew and Passengers:
200 Officers (140 minimum) 2,000.00
400 Crew (345 minimum) 2,800.00
250 Gunners (213 minimum) 1,750.00
50 1st Class Passengers 500.00
50 2nd Class Passengers 350.00
100 Steerage Passengers 500.00
350 Marines 1,750.00
318 Bay Personnel .00
Weapons and Equipment Loc SRV MRV LRV ERV Heat Mass
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4 Heavy NPPC Nose 60 60 60 60 900 12,000.00
4 Heavy NPPC Nose 60 60 60 60 900 12,000.00
2 Heavy N-Gauss(20 rounds) Nose 60 60 60 60 36 14,010.00
4 Heavy NPPC Nose 60 60 60 60 900 12,000.00
4 Heavy NPPC Nose 60 60 60 60 900 12,000.00
2 AR10 (20 KW, 20 WS, 40 B)Nose * * * * 40 3,500.00
2 AR10 (20 KW, 20 WS, 40 B)Nose * * * * 40 3,500.00
4 Heavy NPPC FL/R 60 60 60 60 1800 24,000.00
4 Heavy NPPC FL/R 60 60 60 60 1800 24,000.00
4 Heavy NPPC FL/R 60 60 60 60 1800 24,000.00
4 Heavy NPPC FL/R 60 60 60 60 1800 24,000.00
2 NAC/35(20 rounds) FL/R 70 70 -- -- 480 16,040.00
4 Heavy NPPC FL/R 60 60 60 60 1800 24,000.00
4 Heavy NPPC FL/R 60 60 60 60 1800 24,000.00
20 Small Laser FL/R 6(60) -- -- -- 40 20.00
40 Gauss Rifle(400 rounds) L/RBS 60(600)60(600)60(600) -- 80 1,300.00
40 Gauss Rifle(400 rounds) L/RBS 60(600)60(600)60(600) -- 80 1,300.00
40 LRM 20+ArtIV(402 rounds)L/RBS 64(640)64(640)64(640) -- 480 1,014.00
40 ER Large Laser L/RBS 32(320)32(320)32(320) -- 960 400.00
20 Small Laser L/RBS 6(60) -- -- -- 40 20.00
4 Heavy NPPC AL/R 60 60 60 60 1800 24,000.00
4 Heavy NPPC AL/R 60 60 60 60 1800 24,000.00
4 Heavy NPPC AL/R 60 60 60 60 1800 24,000.00
4 Heavy NPPC AL/R 60 60 60 60 1800 24,000.00
2 NAC/35(20 rounds) AL/R 70 70 -- -- 480 16,040.00
8 NL35 AL/R 28 28 28 -- 832 11,200.00
20 Small Laser AL/R 6(60) -- -- -- 40 20.00
40 Large Pulse Laser Aft 36(360)36(360) -- -- 400 280.00
40 Small Pulse Laser Aft 12(120) -- -- -- 80 40.00
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TOTALS: Heat: 25,708 2,500,000.00
Tons Left: .00
Calculated Factors:
Total Cost: 12,042,108,000 C-Bills
Battle Value: 374,270
Cost per BV: 32,174.92
Weapon Value: 344,511 (Ratio = .92)
Damage Factors: SRV = 21,747; MRV = 20,427; LRV = 14,576; ERV = 4,542
Maintenance: Maintenance Point Value (MPV) = 1,793,758
(441,275 Structure, 649,025 Life Support, 703,458 Weapons)
Support Points (SP) = 1,097,200 (61% of MPV)
BattleForce2: Not applicable
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AeroTech 2 Vessel Technical Readout
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Class/Model/Name: Vengeance Class Dreadnaught Vengeance
Tech: Inner Sphere / 3067
Vessel Type: WarShip
Rules: Level 2, Standard design
Rules Set: AeroTech2
Mass: 1,900,000 tons
Hull: Repulic
K-F Drive System: Repulic KF 5000
Length: 1,080 meters
Power Plant: FireHeart Standard
Safe Thrust: 4
Maximum Thrust: 6
Armor Type: Katain Heavy Solar Lamellor Ferro-carbide
Armament:
24 Falcon Naval Armaments NL55
12 KDY Weaponary Inc Heavy NPPC
5 Ottawa Industries NG 1000 Heavy N-Gauss
34 Ottawa Industries NAC 300 NAC/30
53 Falcon Lasers ER Large Laser
54 Kali Yama Weapons Industries LB 10-X AC
37 KaliYama Death Bloom LRM 15+ArtIV
18 Guided Technologies 2nd Gen Streak SRM 6
12 Inokuma Gauss Rifle
55 MainFire Point Defense AMS
50 Falcon Lasers Small Pulse Laser
8 Newton Heavy Industries Tosser AR10 Launcher
9 Gateworks PDS System 200 Screen Launcher
Manufacturer: Repulic Naval Industries
Location: Yates
Communications System: Nashan Quartet ComSy with Guardian ECM HPG
Targeting & Tracking System: Nashan Diana Mark II Targeting Computer
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==Overview:==
In 3058 the heads of several different sections of the Repubic Naval
Industries came together for a meeting to begin work on what was to be the
newest and best armed warship the company had ever made.
Having a target date of May of 3065, the company soon ran into a few snags.
Money became an issue and so the ship (what was built of it at the time) was
put into mothball until they could return to it. In 3070, after hearing of a
very intersting contract being offered by the DC Naval commad, the company
rushed forth with their plans to finish the Vengeance and show the entire
Inner Sphere what it could do.
==Capabilities:==
Mounting massive fire power the Vengeance Class Dreadnaught is able to dish
out punishiment and take it as well.
It can stand give both front and boardside attacks with ease and deadly
pin-point presscision do to advanced targeting computers and well trained
gunners. The same level of firepower can be employed to give ground troops,
naval support fire or used to soften up enemy areas prior to landing troops.
The Vengeance Class has docking collars for 10 dropships, this alone adds an
addtional level of firepower and protection to the ship. Add in the 54 heavy
fighters she can carry as well as the 18 small craft, which we suggest to be
assault landers or gunship style small craft, the Vengeance can protect itself
from just about any attack.
Numoerous medium range weapons allow the ship to close in with a crippled foe
or get in and keep smaller ships at bay. Several computer tests have shown
that the level of weaponary empolyed on this ship allows for great flexibility
and surpries in any engagment.
==Variants:==
No variants are planned at this time.
==Notable Vessels & Crews:==
First of it's Class.
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Class/Model/Name: Vengeance Class Dreadnaught Vengeance
Mass: 1,900,000 tons
Equipment: Mass
Power Plant, Drive & Control: 456,000.00
Thrust: Safe Thrust: 4
Maximum Thrust: 6
Kearny-Fuchida Hyperdrive: Compact (Integrity = 36) 859,750.00
Lithium Fusion Battery 19,000.00
Jump Sail: No Sail (Fusion-Charged K-F) .00
Structural Integrity: 120 228,000.00
Total Heat Sinks: 4,774 Double 3,775.00
Fuel & Fuel Pumps: 7,650.00
Bridge, Controls, Radar, Computer & Attitude Thrusters: 4,750.00
Fire Control Computers: 44,048.00
Food & Water: (260 days supply) 1,244.25
Hyperpulse Generator: 50.00
Armor Type: Lamellor Ferro-carbide (4,632 total armor pts) 4,560.00
Capital Scale Armor Pts
Location: L / R
Fore: 849
Fore-Left/Right: 772/772
Aft-Left/Right: 772/772
Aft: 695
Cargo:
Bay 1: Fighters (18) with 2 doors 2,700.00
Small Craft (6) 1,200.00
Bay 2: Fighters (18) with 2 doors 2,700.00
Small Craft (6) 1,200.00
Bay 3: Fighters (18) with 2 doors 2,700.00
Small Craft (6) with 2 doors 1,200.00
Bay 4: Cargo (1) with 4 doors 1,999.25
DropShip Capacity: 10 Docking Hardpoints 10,000.00
Grav Decks #1 - 3: (100-meter diameter) 300.00
Life Boats: 40 (7 tons each) 280.00
Escape Pods: 40 (7 tons each) 280.00
Crew and Passengers:
105 Officers (100 minimum) 1,050.00
328 Crew (320 minimum) 2,296.00
150 Gunners (139 minimum) 1,050.00
126 Marines 630.00
50 Marine Battle Armor Troopers/Elementals 350.00
198 Bay Personnel .00
Weapons and Equipment Loc SRV MRV LRV ERV Heat Mass
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2 NL55 Nose 11 11 11 11 170 2,200.00
2 Heavy NPPC Nose 30 30 30 30 450 6,000.00
1 Heavy N-Gauss(100 rounds)Nose 30 30 30 30 18 7,050.00
2 NAC/30(200 rounds) Nose 60 60 60 -- 200 7,160.00
7 ER Large Laser Nose 6(56) 6(56) 6(56) -- 84 35.00
8 LB 10-X AC(800 rounds) Nose 5(48) 5(48) -- -- 16 168.00
7 LRM 15+ArtIV(560 rounds) Nose 8(84) 8(84) 8(84) -- 35 126.00
2 Streak SRM 6(210 rounds) Nose 2(24) -- -- -- 8 23.00
2 Gauss Rifle(160 rounds) Nose 3(30) 3(30) 3(30) -- 2 50.00
6 AMS(720 rounds) Nose -- -- -- -- 6 63.00
10 Small Pulse Laser Nose 3(30) -- -- -- 20 10.00
2 NL55 FL/R 11 11 11 11 340 4,400.00
2 Heavy NPPC FL/R 30 30 30 30 900 12,000.00
1 NAC/30(50 rounds) FL/R 30 30 30 -- 200 7,080.00
2 NAC/30(100 rounds) FL/R 60 60 60 -- 400 14,160.00
1 Heavy N-Gauss(100 rounds)FL/R 30 30 30 30 36 14,100.00
2 AR10 (10 KW, 10 WS, 10 B)FL/R * * * * 80 3,400.00
6 ER Large Laser FL/R 5(48) 5(48) 5(48) -- 144 60.00
7 LB 10-X AC(700 rounds) FL/R 4(42) 4(42) -- -- 28 294.00
4 LRM 15+ArtIV(320 rounds) FL/R 5(48) 5(48) 5(48) -- 40 144.00
2 Streak SRM 6(210 rounds) FL/R 2(24) -- -- -- 16 46.00
3 Gauss Rifle(240 rounds) FL/R 5(45) 5(45) 5(45) -- 6 150.00
7 AMS(816 rounds) FL/R -- -- -- -- 14 143.00
5 Small Pulse Laser FL/R 2(15) -- -- -- 20 10.00
5 NL55 L/RBS 28 28 28 28 850 11,000.00
2 NAC/30(100 rounds) L/RBS 60 60 60 -- 400 14,160.00
2 NAC/30(100 rounds) L/RBS 60 60 60 -- 400 14,160.00
2 NAC/30(100 rounds) L/RBS 60 60 60 -- 400 14,160.00
2 NAC/30(100 rounds) L/RBS 60 60 60 -- 400 14,160.00
2 NAC/30(100 rounds) L/RBS 60 60 60 -- 400 14,160.00
5 ER Large Laser L/RBS 4(40) 4(40) 4(40) -- 120 50.00
6 LB 10-X AC(600 rounds) L/RBS 4(36) 4(36) -- -- 24 252.00
4 LRM 15+ArtIV(320 rounds) L/RBS 5(48) 5(48) 5(48) -- 40 144.00
2 Streak SRM 6(210 rounds) L/RBS 2(24) -- -- -- 16 46.00
7 AMS(816 rounds) L/RBS -- -- -- -- 14 143.00
10 Small Pulse Laser L/RBS 3(30) -- -- -- 40 20.00
3 NL55 AL/R 17 17 17 17 510 6,600.00
2 Heavy NPPC AL/R 30 30 30 30 900 12,000.00
2 NAC/30(100 rounds) AL/R 60 60 60 -- 400 14,160.00
1 Heavy N-Gauss(100 rounds)AL/R 30 30 30 30 36 14,100.00
2 AR10 (10 KW, 10 WS, 10 B)AL/R * * * * 80 3,400.00
8 ER Large Laser AL/R 6(64) 6(64) 6(64) -- 192 80.00
6 LB 10-X AC(600 rounds) AL/R 4(36) 4(36) -- -- 24 252.00
4 LRM 15+ArtIV(320 rounds) AL/R 5(48) 5(48) 5(48) -- 40 144.00
2 Streak SRM 6(210 rounds) AL/R 2(24) -- -- -- 16 46.00
2 Gauss Rifle(160 rounds) AL/R 3(30) 3(30) 3(30) -- 4 100.00
7 AMS(816 rounds) AL/R -- -- -- -- 14 143.00
3 Screen Launcher(60 scrns)AL/R -- -- -- -- 60 1,440.00
5 Small Pulse Laser AL/R 2(15) -- -- -- 20 10.00
2 NL55 Aft 11 11 11 11 170 2,200.00
2 Heavy NPPC Aft 30 30 30 30 450 6,000.00
2 NAC/30(100 rounds) Aft 60 60 60 -- 200 7,080.00
8 ER Large Laser Aft 6(64) 6(64) 6(64) -- 96 40.00
8 LB 10-X AC(800 rounds) Aft 5(48) 5(48) -- -- 16 168.00
6 LRM 15+ArtIV(480 rounds) Aft 7(72) 7(72) 7(72) -- 30 108.00
4 Streak SRM 6(420 rounds) Aft 5(48) -- -- -- 16 46.00
7 AMS(840 rounds) Aft -- -- -- -- 7 73.50
3 Screen Launcher(60 scrns)Aft -- -- -- -- 30 720.00
1 Lot Spare Parts (0.58%) 11,000.00
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TOTALS: Heat: 9,648 1,900,000.00
Tons Left: .00
Calculated Factors:
Total Cost: 34,276,144,000 C-Bills
Battle Value: 381,988
Cost per BV: 89,730.94
Weapon Value: 248,793 (Ratio = .65)
Damage Factors: SRV = 15,473; MRV = 14,715; LRV = 11,109; ERV = 4,219
Maintenance: Maintenance Point Value (MPV) = 1,275,413
(253,030 Structure, 589,825 Life Support, 432,558 Weapons)
Support Points (SP) = 683,789 (54% of MPV)
BattleForce2: Not applicable
Code:
AeroTech 2 Vessel Technical Readout
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Class/Model/Name: Ultor Class Battleship Kraken
Tech: Inner Sphere / 3100
Vessel Type: WarShip
Rules: Level 2, Standard design
Rules Set: AeroTech2
Mass: 2,500,000 tons
K-F Drive System: (Unknown)
Length: 1,586 meters
Sail Diameter: 1,582 meters
Power Plant: Standard
Safe Thrust: 3
Maximum Thrust: 5
Armor Type: Lamellor Ferro-carbide
Armament:
96 Heavy NPPC
2 Heavy N-Gauss
4 AR10 Launcher
8 NAC/35
120 Small Laser
160 Gauss Rifle
80 LRM 20+ArtIV
80 ER Large Laser
16 NL35
40 Large Pulse Laser
40 Small Pulse Laser
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Class/Model/Name: Ultor Class Battleship Kraken
Mass: 2,500,000 tons
Equipment: Mass
Power Plant, Drive & Control: 450,000.00
Thrust: Safe Thrust: 3
Maximum Thrust: 5
Kearny-Fuchida Hyperdrive: Compact (Integrity = 47) 1,131,250.00
Lithium Fusion Battery 25,000.00
Jump Sail: (Integrity = 9) 155.00
Structural Integrity: 150 375,000.00
Total Heat Sinks: 15,000 Double 14,007.00
Fuel & Fuel Pumps: 10,200.00
Bridge, Controls, Radar, Computer & Attitude Thrusters: 6,250.00
Fire Control Computers: 66,334.00
Food & Water: (400 days supply) 3,436.00
Hyperpulse Generator: 50.00
Armor Type: Lamellor Ferro-carbide (7,590 total armor pts) 7,500.00
Capital Scale Armor Pts
Location: L / R
Fore: 1,391
Fore-Left/Right: 1,265/1,265
Aft-Left/Right: 1,265/1,265
Aft: 1,139
Cargo:
Bay 1: Fighters (72) with 4 doors 10,800.00
Bay 2: Small Craft (6) 1,200.00
Fighters (72) with 4 doors 10,800.00
Bay 3: Cargo (1) 17,484.00
Grav Decks #1 - 4: (500-meter diameter) 2,000.00
Grav Decks #5 - 8: (250-meter diameter) 400.00
Grav Decks #9 - 12: (100-meter diameter) 400.00
Life Boats: 100 (7 tons each) 700.00
Escape Pods: 100 (7 tons each) 700.00
Crew and Passengers:
200 Officers (140 minimum) 2,000.00
400 Crew (345 minimum) 2,800.00
250 Gunners (213 minimum) 1,750.00
50 1st Class Passengers 500.00
50 2nd Class Passengers 350.00
100 Steerage Passengers 500.00
350 Marines 1,750.00
318 Bay Personnel .00
Weapons and Equipment Loc SRV MRV LRV ERV Heat Mass
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4 Heavy NPPC Nose 60 60 60 60 900 12,000.00
4 Heavy NPPC Nose 60 60 60 60 900 12,000.00
2 Heavy N-Gauss(20 rounds) Nose 60 60 60 60 36 14,010.00
4 Heavy NPPC Nose 60 60 60 60 900 12,000.00
4 Heavy NPPC Nose 60 60 60 60 900 12,000.00
2 AR10 (20 KW, 20 WS, 40 B)Nose * * * * 40 3,500.00
2 AR10 (20 KW, 20 WS, 40 B)Nose * * * * 40 3,500.00
4 Heavy NPPC FL/R 60 60 60 60 1800 24,000.00
4 Heavy NPPC FL/R 60 60 60 60 1800 24,000.00
4 Heavy NPPC FL/R 60 60 60 60 1800 24,000.00
4 Heavy NPPC FL/R 60 60 60 60 1800 24,000.00
2 NAC/35(20 rounds) FL/R 70 70 -- -- 480 16,040.00
4 Heavy NPPC FL/R 60 60 60 60 1800 24,000.00
4 Heavy NPPC FL/R 60 60 60 60 1800 24,000.00
20 Small Laser FL/R 6(60) -- -- -- 40 20.00
40 Gauss Rifle(400 rounds) L/RBS 60(600)60(600)60(600) -- 80 1,300.00
40 Gauss Rifle(400 rounds) L/RBS 60(600)60(600)60(600) -- 80 1,300.00
40 LRM 20+ArtIV(402 rounds)L/RBS 64(640)64(640)64(640) -- 480 1,014.00
40 ER Large Laser L/RBS 32(320)32(320)32(320) -- 960 400.00
20 Small Laser L/RBS 6(60) -- -- -- 40 20.00
4 Heavy NPPC AL/R 60 60 60 60 1800 24,000.00
4 Heavy NPPC AL/R 60 60 60 60 1800 24,000.00
4 Heavy NPPC AL/R 60 60 60 60 1800 24,000.00
4 Heavy NPPC AL/R 60 60 60 60 1800 24,000.00
2 NAC/35(20 rounds) AL/R 70 70 -- -- 480 16,040.00
8 NL35 AL/R 28 28 28 -- 832 11,200.00
20 Small Laser AL/R 6(60) -- -- -- 40 20.00
40 Large Pulse Laser Aft 36(360)36(360) -- -- 400 280.00
40 Small Pulse Laser Aft 12(120) -- -- -- 80 40.00
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TOTALS: Heat: 25,708 2,500,000.00
Tons Left: .00
Calculated Factors:
Total Cost: 12,042,108,000 C-Bills
Battle Value: 374,270
Cost per BV: 32,174.92
Weapon Value: 344,511 (Ratio = .92)
Damage Factors: SRV = 21,747; MRV = 20,427; LRV = 14,576; ERV = 4,542
Maintenance: Maintenance Point Value (MPV) = 1,793,758
(441,275 Structure, 649,025 Life Support, 703,458 Weapons)
Support Points (SP) = 1,097,200 (61% of MPV)
BattleForce2: Not applicable
Is this enough Cray or would you like me to pick some more?
Karagin
Given time and plenty of paper, a philosopher can prove anything.
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Cray
06/12/13 11:10 PM
184.88.162.114
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Well, actually, I suggested canonical ships to face off against the Firepower, but some commentary on these designs:
The Overlord-class carrier (didn't you once object to me re-using canonical names for custom designs?  ) has too many fighters to use effectively. 3000 fighters with 8 doors means you need about 3 hours (around 180 turns) to launch all the fighters and twice as long for them to dock. It also lacks enough cargo space to refuel the fighters once, let alone re-arm them, and the 5600 tons of cargo couldn't feed the bay personnel for long (about 9 days, if I'm remembering consumable usage rates correctly. It might be 18 days.)
The Overlord's weapons array is odd. The mixed ER PPCs and ER LLs achieves nothing, since they have the same range. The small lasers are next to useless for point defense. They can degrade a missile volley or two, but they lack the ability to engage multiple volleys per turn and defend neighboring ships like a real AMS.
The 800-meter gravdeck is larger than is allowed on a WarShip, while the mixing of gravdeck sizes makes no sense. If you want multiple gravdecks, then make them the same size so they cancel each other's gyroscopic precessions under station keeping thrust.
The armor is great and the acceleration adequate.
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The first battleship has great armor and adequate acceleration, but the weapons are only so-so. The capital firepower is on par with the McKenna, only about half that of the Firepower and less than you could get on a 2.5-megaton platform. There are some oddities, too: the NAC/35s are wasteful, since they're no good for orbital bombardment unlike NAC/30s, and the NL/35s should be replaced with more NPPCs (which deliver the same damage and heat per ton, but have more range). Except for the pulse large lasers, the standard weapons are a poor anti-fighter mix with low total firepower. The small pulse lasers are, like the small lasers of the Overlord, poor PD weapons.
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The Vengeance is interesting for its 4/6 acceleration and the armor is great, but after that goes wonky.
The NL55s are redundant with the NPPCs, but demand more fire control tonnage. The naval Gauss rifles are the lowest damage-to-weight capital weapons in the game besides the useless mass drivers. The NAC/30s are a great weapon, having about the highest damage-to-weight ratio of any capital weapon while retaining the "long" range band critical for orbital bombardment. The screen launchers are a nice touch that should be used more widely, including on the Firepower. If you wanted to optimize the Vengeance's capital firepower, you'd switch to all NAC/30s. If you didn't mind the reduction in efficiency, then you'd try a mix of NAC/10s and NAC/20s so you could benefit from the bracket fire rules.
Knowing that you're facing the Firepower, the AR/10s are useless even when lobbing nuclear-tipped capital missiles. Otherwise, they're a nice utility weapon because they have so many unique engagement options denied to other capital weapons. I tend to like a dozen or so on my bigger non-missile ships.
The standard weapons are an inexplicable mix. Other than the AMSs, there's a lot of unnecessary duplication of effects from multiple weapons. All the many features that separate (for example) a Streak 6 from a Gauss rifle on the ground don't exist in aerospace combat, which boils things down to range and damage-per-ton. If you want an anti-fighter weapon, pick one and stick to it. I recommend pulse large lasers, Inner Sphere or Clan, since that -2 bonus carries over into aerospace combat.
Mike Miller, Materials Engineer
Disclaimer: Anything stated in this post is unofficial and non-canon unless directly quoted from a published book. Random internet musings of a BattleTech writer are not canon.
Edited by Cray (06/12/13 11:15 PM)
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Karagin
06/12/13 11:23 PM
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I picked ships that allowed be to use the LAMs ideal of the Firepower to my advantage, noting the limited number of Missile weapons.
I agree things could be better, but I wasn't going for total munchkin effects, well the Overlord is well munchy, and yes I think we did have a convo about reusing names and we all agreed that it will happen from time to time. I am not trying to build super ships, I was going for average which seems to be a better option versus one with 96 LAMS, really what was the point of that again? And no I don't agree with you about the ability of the Firepower to stop nukes, since the smart player would wait and use them once the Firepower has taken damage, lost some of the LAMS and then use them.
The mix of weapons was to cover things from ranged main weapons to close in one that could engage fighters and etc...I don't think the rules have changed to having a NL take out a ASF have they?
As for the fighters, they are there, used right they could be the tide turn or not, but see I do realize the Overlord would never get built, it like ALL of ATNs ships show issue with the rules. The rules allow these things to get built, because there is no limit on the number of fighters a ship can carry, just how many bay doors a ship can have, and the rules don't address the issue of the pilots or where the nations would get them from etc...again I will stand by my point in the Firepower thread, IF ATNs' ships which all seem to have the same number of LAMS where to become standard, then one side or both would find away to put armor on their missiles or come up with some thing else that would render the LAMs a waste of tonnage. Thus creating a larger arms race.
I can adjust the ships weapons since part of posting things is to share and get new ideas and takes on things.
Karagin
Given time and plenty of paper, a philosopher can prove anything.
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ATN082268
06/13/13 02:28 PM
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<. I am not trying to build super ships, I was going for average>
Come on now... I think even a coma patient would call BS on that one. What "average" Warship in the Battletech Universe has a characteristic of 2,500,000 tons, carries 3000 fighters or close to 1400 points of armor in the nose among other things? I suspect the general lack of AMS, substandard maintenance levels, etc on your Warships was more of an oversight than a deliberate attempt on your part to make the ships "average." Given the maintenance levels on your ships, you'll be riding into battle with critical hits
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Cray
06/13/13 06:21 PM
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Those maintenance points are no longer in use.
(And ships with 3 to 4 times the armor of a McKenna or 3000 fighters are not average.)
Mike Miller, Materials Engineer
Disclaimer: Anything stated in this post is unofficial and non-canon unless directly quoted from a published book. Random internet musings of a BattleTech writer are not canon.
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Karagin
06/13/13 07:21 PM
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No I picked ONE munchy ship to show you how silly your stuff is, and the others are average, the Overlord was munch from the day I worked on it back in 99. It is pure 100% munch, just like your Firepower, Hive and others.
I am glad you feel your designs are prefect.
Karagin
Given time and plenty of paper, a philosopher can prove anything.
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Karagin
06/13/13 07:22 PM
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No kidding...any ship that beats the canon big guns aka the McKenna and Leviathan are not normal.
Karagin
Given time and plenty of paper, a philosopher can prove anything.
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ATN082268
06/14/13 09:34 AM
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<(And ships with 3 to 4 times the armor of a McKenna or 3000 fighters are not average.)>
I never stated or implied any of my designs were average.
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