ATN082268
07/30/13 04:42 AM
69.128.58.222
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BattleTech Vehicle Technical Readout
VALIDATED
Type/Model: Firepower
Tech: Clan / 3072
Config: Tracked Vehicle
Rules: Level 3, Custom design
Mass: 200 tons
Power Plant: 200 Fusion
Cruise Speed: 10.8 km/h
Maximum Speed: 21.6 km/h
Armor Type: Ferro-Fibrous
Armament:
12 LRM 20s
2 ER Medium Lasers
4 SRM 6s
1 Angel ECM Suite
Manufacturer: (Unknown)
Location: (Unknown)
Communications System: (Unknown)
Targeting & Tracking System: (Unknown)
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Type/Model: Firepower
Mass: 200 tons
Construction Options: Fractional Accounting
Equipment: Items Mass
Int. Struct.: 80 pts Standard 0 40.00
Engine: 200 Fusion 0 8.50
Shielding & Transmission Equipment: 0 4.25
Cruise MP: 1
Flank MP: 2
Heat Sinks: 10 Single 0 .00
Cockpit & Controls: 0 10.00
Crew: 14 Members 0 .00
Sponson Turret Equipment: 0 6.80
Armor Factor: 515 pts Ferro-Fibrous 1 26.82
Internal Armor
Structure Value
Front: 20 115
Front L / R Sides: 20 90/90
Rear L / R Sides: 20 75/75
Rear: 20 70
Weapons and Equipment Loc Heat Ammo Items Mass
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6 LRM 20s Lf_Spon 0 90 7 45.00
6 LRM 20s Rt_Spon 0 90 6 45.00
1 ER Medium Laser Lf_Spon 5 1 1.00
1 ER Medium Laser Rt_Spon 5 1 1.00
2 SRM 6s Lf_Spon 0 30 3 5.00
2 SRM 6s Rt_Spon 0 30 2 5.00
1 Angel ECM Suite Body 0 1 1.50
1 C.A.S.E. Equipment Body 0 .00
Cargo Bay Capacity Body 1 .13
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TOTALS: 10 23 200.00
Items & Tons Left: 22 .00
Calculated Factors:
Total Cost: 32,333,644 C-Bills
Battle Value: 3,079
Cost per BV: 10,501.35
Weapon Value: 7,767 / 7,767 (Ratio = 2.52 / 2.52)
Damage Factors: SRDmg = 176; MRDmg = 121; LRDmg = 64
BattleForce2: MP: 1, Armor/Structure: 0 / 20
Damage PB/M/L: 19/19/14, Overheat: 0
Class: GA; Point Value: 31
Specials: if, ecm
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Karagin
07/30/13 06:16 AM
72.178.85.122
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You rebuilt, again, the LRM carrier on a 200 ton frame. Way to go.
Karagin
Given time and plenty of paper, a philosopher can prove anything.
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His_Most_Royal_Highass_Donkey
07/30/13 11:24 AM
208.54.5.242
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Have you tried to do this with a 300 or 400 ton tank?
Why argue if the glass is half full or half empty, when you know someone is going to knock it over and spill it anyways.
I was a Major *pain* before
But I got a promotion.
I am now a General *pain*
Yay for promotions!!!
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Karagin
07/31/13 08:47 AM
72.178.85.122
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Well seeing as you can't build a 300 ton or 400 ton tank the answer would be no.
And really you don't gain anything with those weights.
Karagin
Given time and plenty of paper, a philosopher can prove anything.
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His_Most_Royal_Highass_Donkey
07/31/13 06:20 PM
208.54.86.159
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The last I knew you could build anything that you could put an engine in. I guess the rules have been changed.
Why argue if the glass is half full or half empty, when you know someone is going to knock it over and spill it anyways.
I was a Major *pain* before
But I got a promotion.
I am now a General *pain*
Yay for promotions!!!
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Karagin
07/31/13 06:54 PM
72.178.85.122
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You can build SUPPORT VEHICLES over 200 tons, but they are not true COMBAT vehicles. Given that we have TWO rule sets to build vehicles and the second one allows you to turn your average civilian truck into a military vehicle ala adding armor and weapons which muddies the waters etc...they need to combine the two rule sets into one set that covers vehicles and offers something like civilian vs military frames like they do for dropships, but I have been told I am being unreasonable and beating a dead horse on this kind like was I told over my disbelief in how the Word Of Blake goes from nothing to Interstellar POWER in 21 years with the ability to out do everyone and be so good at it it blinds all...
Karagin
Given time and plenty of paper, a philosopher can prove anything.
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ATN082268
08/01/13 02:22 AM
69.128.58.222
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Quote:
Well seeing as you can't build a 300 ton or 400 ton tank the answer would be no.
And really you don't gain anything with those weights.
The official rules don't currently support over 200 ton combat vehicles but that doesn't preclude using them  It would seem going from a maximum of 200 tons to 300 or 400 tons, you would gain 100 or 200 tons...
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His_Most_Royal_Highass_Donkey
08/01/13 05:32 AM
208.54.32.131
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Quote:
but I have been told I am being unreasonable and beating a dead horse on this kind like was I told over my disbelief in how the Word Of Blake goes from nothing to Interstellar POWER in 21 years with the ability to out do everyone and be so good at it it blinds all...
Its called fiction pretending that something that would not and could never happen does happen. Like for example a thirty foot high target that has armor thinner than tissue paper having any chance what so ever to win over a relatively small target like a modern main battle tank that has armor getting close to a foot thick.
Why argue if the glass is half full or half empty, when you know someone is going to knock it over and spill it anyways.
I was a Major *pain* before
But I got a promotion.
I am now a General *pain*
Yay for promotions!!!
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Karagin
08/01/13 06:31 AM
72.178.85.122
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I get the fiction part, but even somethings go against common sense and logic that would be prevalent in the fictional universe.
Karagin
Given time and plenty of paper, a philosopher can prove anything.
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Karagin
08/01/13 06:32 AM
72.178.85.122
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No Kidding? Really? You don't say? If you would read the post I made AFTER the reply you would see I did indeed say that already.
Karagin
Given time and plenty of paper, a philosopher can prove anything.
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BobTheZombie
08/01/13 02:20 PM
172.242.129.149
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This seems like a moving base more than anything...
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His_Most_Royal_Highass_Donkey
08/01/13 05:52 PM
206.29.182.238
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Moving? I dont call being able to go at the maximum speed of 13 miles per hour much on moving. In 24 hours that thing would travel 322 miles. Artillery could take that out with out a problem.
At least the driver would not have to worry about running any people over, a man can run faster than that thing can move.
Why argue if the glass is half full or half empty, when you know someone is going to knock it over and spill it anyways.
I was a Major *pain* before
But I got a promotion.
I am now a General *pain*
Yay for promotions!!!
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Cray
08/01/13 11:23 PM
184.88.162.114
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Quote:
I get the fiction part, but even somethings go against common sense and logic that would be prevalent in the fictional universe.
It's more a matter of rules than just fiction. There's never been a rule that says, "Whatever you can put an engine in, you can build."
Mike Miller, Materials Engineer
Disclaimer: Anything stated in this post is unofficial and non-canon unless directly quoted from a published book. Random internet musings of a BattleTech writer are not canon.
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Karagin
08/02/13 11:18 AM
72.178.85.122
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Nor has there been a rule that say just because you can build it do so either.
Karagin
Given time and plenty of paper, a philosopher can prove anything.
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