Karagin
02/23/14 07:24 PM
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Going for a more practical upgrade and one that doesn't break the pocket book either:
Code: BattleMech Technical Readout
Type/Model: Warhammer WHM-19T
Tech: Inner Sphere / 3050
Config: Biped BattleMech
Rules: Level 2, Standard design
Mass: 70 tons
Chassis: StarCorp 100 Endo Steel
Power Plant: 280 VOX Fusion
Walking Speed: 43.2 km/h
Maximum Speed: 64.8 km/h
Jump Jets: None
Jump Capacity: 0 meters
Armor Type: Leviathon Plus Standard
Armament:
2 PPCs
1 SRM 6
2 Medium Lasers
2 Small Lasers
2 Machine Guns
Manufacturer: StarCorps Industries
Location: (Unknown)
Communications System: O/P 3000 COMSET
Targeting & Tracking System: O/P 1500 ARB
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Type/Model: Warhammer WHM-19T
Mass: 70 tons
Equipment: Crits Mass
Int. Struct.: 107 pts Endo Steel 14 3.50
(Endo Steel Loc: 1 HD, 6 LT, 1 RT, 2 CT, 2 LL, 2 RL)
Engine: 280 Fusion 6 16.00
Walking MP: 4
Running MP: 6
Jumping MP: 0
Heat Sinks: 17 Double [34] 18 7.00
(Heat Sink Loc: 2 LA, 2 RA, 1 LT, 1 RT)
Gyro: 4 3.00
Cockpit, Life Supt., Sensors: 5 3.00
Actuators: L: Sh+UA+LA R: Sh+UA+LA 14 .00
Armor Factor: 217 pts Standard 0 14.00
Internal Armor
Structure Value
Head: 3 9
Center Torso: 22 33
Center Torso (Rear): 11
L/R Side Torso: 15 22/22
L/R Side Torso (Rear): 8/8
L/R Arm: 11 22/22
L/R Leg: 15 30/30
Weapons and Equipment Loc Heat Ammo Crits Mass
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1 PPC RA 10 3 7.00
1 PPC LA 10 3 7.00
1 SRM 6 RT 4 15 3 4.00
(Ammo Locations: 1 RT)
1 Medium Laser RT 3 1 1.00
1 Small Laser RT 1 1 .50
1 Machine Gun RT 0 200 2 1.50
(Ammo Locations: 1 RT)
1 Medium Laser LT 3 1 1.00
1 Small Laser LT 1 1 .50
1 Machine Gun LT 0 1 .50
CASE Equipment: RT 1 .50
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TOTALS: 32 78 70.00
Crits & Tons Left: 0 .00
Calculated Factors:
Total Cost: 6,512,984 C-Bills
Battle Value 2: 1,568 (old BV = 1,401)
Cost per BV2: 4,153.69
Weapon Value: 2,288 / 2,288 (Ratio = 1.46 / 1.46)
Damage Factors: SRDmg = 33; MRDmg = 15; LRDmg = 5
BattleForce2: MP: 4, Armor/Structure: 5/5
Damage PB/M/L: 6/4/2, Overheat: 0
Class: MH; Point Value: 16
Karagin
Given time and plenty of paper, a philosopher can prove anything.
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KamikazeJohnson
02/23/14 07:32 PM
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Better heat control, CASE, and 40% more armour? Not bad.
Peace is that glorious moment in history when everyone stands around reloading.
--Thomas Jefferson
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KamikazeJohnson
02/23/14 07:37 PM
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Minor edit...you're 7 points over max on your armour by tonnage. Reduce to 13.5 tons only costs you 1 point of armour. If you also reduce to 100 MG rounds, you haveca free ton to do...something.
Peace is that glorious moment in history when everyone stands around reloading.
--Thomas Jefferson
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ghostrider
02/23/14 07:37 PM
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Now what are you gonna do when its time to remake the hammer? 
It might be a good idea to point out what has been done. First looked at it and didn't see the double heat sinks and the endo steel. It is kind of a surprise not to see ferrous fiber armor.
With trying to keep price down, I understand the lack of xl. Still unusual for Karagin
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KamikazeJohnson
02/23/14 07:41 PM
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Quote:
Now what are you gonna do when its time to remake the hammer?
It might be a good idea to point out what has been done. First looked at it and didn't see the double heat sinks and the endo steel. It is kind of a surprise not to see ferrous fiber armor.
With trying to keep price down, I understand the lack of xl. Still unusual for Karagin
No free crits for FF or XL Engine.
Don't worry, I have my own ideas ;-)
Peace is that glorious moment in history when everyone stands around reloading.
--Thomas Jefferson
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Retry
02/23/14 07:45 PM
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That's a whole lot of heat sinks when your most used weapons are 2 PPCs.
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Karagin
02/23/14 07:47 PM
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Not following your point Retry. Are you saying I should have dumped on the heat issue, which is the big draw back to this mech and went with more speed or weapons and worried about heat later? The idea was to fix the short falls of the mech, but keep it with in reason at the same time. So armor and heat being the two big ones, I looked at those and went with what I did.
Karagin
Given time and plenty of paper, a philosopher can prove anything.
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Retry
02/23/14 07:55 PM
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Well, you could delete some spare DHS for something else. Alternatively you can rid of the SRM and go with more MLs to use the 17 DHS.
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Karagin
02/23/14 08:00 PM
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Do recall on mechs every weapon builds up heat.
Karagin
Given time and plenty of paper, a philosopher can prove anything.
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Retry
02/23/14 08:01 PM
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How often are you going to be alpha striking with your entire weapon loads?
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Karagin
02/23/14 08:04 PM
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Depends on who is using the mech, and the ability to keep the two main guns firing is worth the heat sinks.
Karagin
Given time and plenty of paper, a philosopher can prove anything.
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KamikazeJohnson
02/23/14 08:12 PM
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Quote:
Not following your point Retry. Are you saying I should have dumped on the heat issue, which is the big draw back to this mech and went with more speed or weapons and worried about heat later? The idea was to fix the short falls of the mech, but keep it with in reason at the same time. So armor and heat being the two big ones, I looked at those and went with what I did.
I'm kinda with Retry on this one, in that you'll rarely be in a situation where you'll need all your heat sinks. But exactly what constitutes "optimal" heat control is largely a matter of playstyle and personal taste.
OTOH, sometimes a little "extra" heat control is useful. Engine hits, Desert fights, and frequent use of Inferno SRMs can really ruin your day if you ride the line on heat.
Peace is that glorious moment in history when everyone stands around reloading.
--Thomas Jefferson
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ghostrider
02/24/14 01:13 AM
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guessing megamek stays at long range. Most battles I have seen were from 3 to 10 hexes, with 6-7 being the average. but I guess being in long range and having he ability to pot shot with all the weapons isnt something that people do.
Though being able to fire everything and run and not build up heat might be a little more heat sinks then needed. It is a good basis for upgrading in the field with erppcs.
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