Retry
04/21/14 11:57 PM
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Nauros Mk.I Garrison AA Tank Mixed (Base Clan) 45 tons BV: 913 Cost: 2,644,510 C-bills Source: Crossroads
Movement: 4/6 (Tracked) Engine: 180
Internal: 25 Armor: 197 (Stealth) Internal Armor Front 5 66 Right 5 33 Left 5 33 Rear 5 33 Turret 5 32
Weapons Loc Heat LB 2-X AC TU 1 LB 2-X AC TU 1 Machine Gun FR 0 Machine Gun RR 0 Machine Gun RS 0 Machine Gun RS 0 Machine Gun LS 0 Machine Gun LS 0
Ammo Loc Shots LB 2-X Cluster Ammo BD 45 Half Machine Gun Ammo BD 100
Equipment Loc ECM Suite BD
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Karagin
04/22/14 06:18 AM
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A garrison tank with Stealth armor...yeah not seeing that stuff wasted on second line units not by anyone in the Inner Sphere.
Karagin
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ghostrider
04/22/14 07:55 AM
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is this a ice or fusion engine tank?
I can see front lines using this as cannon fodder to try and take out anything flying as well as some long range support fire.
And remember Karagin, this is not innersphere, but the clan advantages of everything with some innersphere stuff mixed in that is not clan tech yet.
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Retry
04/22/14 09:32 PM
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@Ghostrider:It's a fusion tank.
@Karagin: Ghostrider's right, it's not innersphere. Also not clantech either though. Sort of renders your argument about the IS moot.
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Karagin
04/22/14 11:03 PM
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@Retry I got that part. And I still stick with the statement, modified, no government or military is going to put this much tech into their second line forces.
Even the Clans don't give their second line stuff ALL the bells and whistles. As for what tech it is, it is still based in the reality of Battletech since I am not seeing any home tech items.
Karagin
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Retry
04/22/14 11:04 PM
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It's neither IS nor clan, and that is your opinion.
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Karagin
04/22/14 11:05 PM
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Correct Retry my opinion. So I am leaving it at that.
Karagin
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Retry
04/22/14 11:10 PM
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The complaints seem to be more logistically related of the non-canon faction's capabilities. It'd be more appropiate in a different thread. Anything relevant you have to say?
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ghostrider
04/22/14 11:42 PM
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might have been an option to put an mg in the back. For some reason, I would think that would be the best way to approach vehicles. Most seem to have front and sides covered. Not just yours retry.
I beleive retry had said stealth armor needed heat sinks to run it, which is why I asked about the fusion engine. Not all of us have a handy mech creation program handy.
Honestly think the ac is a little small, but then again, front line combat is not its purpose.
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Maurer
04/25/14 01:59 AM
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A cheaper alternative.
Quote: BattleTech Vehicle Technical Readout VALIDATED
Type/Model: Untitled Tech: Clan / 3060 Config: Tracked Vehicle Rules: Level 3, Standard design
Mass: 30 tons Power Plant: 120 I.C.E. Cruise Speed: 43.2 km/h Maximum Speed: 64.8 km/h Armor Type: Standard Armament: 2 LB 2-X ACs 2 Machine Guns Manufacturer: (Unknown) Location: (Unknown) Communications System: (Unknown) Targeting & Tracking System: (Unknown)
-------------------------------------------------------- Type/Model: Untitled Mass: 30 tons
Equipment: Items Mass Int. Struct.: 15 pts Standard 0 3.00 Engine: 120 I.C.E. 0 8.00 Cruise MP: 4 Flank MP: 6 Heat Sinks: 0 Single 0 .00 Cockpit & Controls: 0 1.50 Crew: 2 Members 0 .00 Turret Equipment: 0 1.00 Armor Factor: 72 pts Standard 0 4.50
Internal Armor Structure Value Front: 3 16 Left / Right Sides: 3 14/14 Rear: 3 12 Turret: 3 16
Weapons and Equipment Loc Heat Ammo Items Mass -------------------------------------------------------- 2 LB 2-X ACs Turret 0 45 3 11.00 1 Machine Gun Front 0 100 2 .75 1 Machine Gun Rear 0 1 .25 1 C.A.S.E. Equipment Body 0 .00 -------------------------------------------------------- TOTALS: 0 6 30.00 Items & Tons Left: 5 .00
Calculated Factors: Total Cost: 672,750 C-Bills Battle Value: 197 Cost per BV: 3,414.97 Weapon Value: 62 / 62 (Ratio = .31 / .31) Damage Factors: SRDmg = 4; MRDmg = 3; LRDmg = 3 BattleForce2: MP: 4T, Armor/Structure: 0 / 3 Damage PB/M/L: 1/-/-, Overheat: 0 Class: GL; Point Value: 2
I dunno, but I think being able to field 4 of these for 1 unit with stealth armor is far more effective despite having very little armor (even for it's intended role).
"Captain! We're completely surrounded on all sides." - Kiff, Futurama
..."Excellent, then we may attack in any direction." - Zapp Brannigan, Futurama
"A fool fights a war on two fronts; only an idiot defends on one." - Fusilier
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Retry
04/25/14 08:57 PM
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Overall, at first, yes. In the sense that 4 of those can pump out more lead than the Nauros. However, it lacks side machineguns for crit soaking, giving it even less durability. Which, speaking of, this unnamed tank cannot last a single AC/20 hit at any location...(*cough*mechbusterbait*cough*). Not exactly something you would want assigning your troops unless you have a "we have reserves" mentality.
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