Retry
05/03/14 01:02 AM
76.7.236.208
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Locust LCT-7X IS TW non-box set 20 tons BV: 843 Cost: 2,984,800 C-bills Source: Locust
Movement: 8/12 Engine: 160 XL BAR Rating: 5 Double Heat Sinks: 10 [20] Cockpit: Small Cockpit Gyro: XL Gyro
Internal: 33 (Endo-Steel) Armor: 69/69 Commercial Internal Armor Head 3 9 Center Torso 6 9 Center Torso (rear) 3 Right Torso 5 8 Right Torso (rear) 2 Left Torso 5 8 Left Torso (rear) 2 Right Arm 3 6 Left Arm 3 6 Right Leg 4 8 Left Leg 4 8
Weapons Loc Heat Light PPC LA 5 Light PPC RA 5 Medium Laser LA 3 Medium Laser LA 3 Medium Laser RA 3 Medium Laser RA 3 ----
An experiment with outfitting the Locust with as much firepower as possible, the 7X uses a plethora of weight saving equipment available at the time to fit half of it's body weight in weaponry.
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ghostrider
05/03/14 08:13 AM
24.30.142.80
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would suggest moving something into the torso to avoid losing half firepower when you lose an arm. Otherwise looks like a nasty surprise.
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TigerShark
05/04/14 07:57 PM
68.190.197.104
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Could go with dual MPLs (or X-MPL) in the CT. Would give it some nice backstabbing potential with decent long range punch.
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LegatusDavoke
05/05/14 01:42 PM
198.62.219.6
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It has...commercial armor. Locusts are already basically a paper target that can barely shoot back. A single Heavy PPC blast could destroy any section of this Locust with no trouble. And even a machine gun can cripple it due to a low BAR rating.
There'll be the devil to pay mate. Better make it good, eh?
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KamikazeJohnson
05/05/14 02:03 PM
50.72.218.68
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Quote: LegatusDavoke writes:
It has...commercial armor. Locusts are already basically a paper target that can barely shoot back. A single Heavy PPC blast could destroy any section of this Locust with no trouble. And even a machine gun can cripple it due to a low BAR rating.
If I understand the BAR rating properly, a BAR of 5 should withstand anything up to a Medium Laser. Considering a PPC hit will do internal damage to any lication anyway, Commercial armour isn't a big risk, especially if is deployed primarily against other Light 'Mechs. A Heavy PPC will cripple a Locust regardless of armour type.
Peace is that glorious moment in history when everyone stands around reloading.
--Thomas Jefferson
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Retry
05/05/14 02:32 PM
72.214.204.166
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Sounds right to me Johnson.
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Cray
05/05/14 06:09 PM
71.47.91.0
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Quote: KamikazeJohnson writes:
Quote: LegatusDavoke writes:
It has...commercial armor. Locusts are already basically a paper target that can barely shoot back. A single Heavy PPC blast could destroy any section of this Locust with no trouble. And even a machine gun can cripple it due to a low BAR rating.
If I understand the BAR rating properly, a BAR of 5 should withstand anything up to a Medium Laser.
Any weapon that exceeds the BAR simply has an extra crit chance. For example, if you had 30 points of BAR 5 armor on a location and were hit by an AC/20 the attacker would get a crit opportunity despite 10 points of armor remaining. Of course, that roll might not result in a crit, and you still do have 10 points of armor left for the next attack.
Though in this situation...
Quote: Considering a PPC hit will do internal damage to any lication anyway, Commercial armour isn't a big risk, especially if is deployed primarily against other Light 'Mechs. A Heavy PPC will cripple a Locust regardless of armour type.
...what he said.
Mike Miller, Materials Engineer
Disclaimer: Anything stated in this post is unofficial and non-canon unless directly quoted from a published book. Random internet musings of a BattleTech writer are not canon.
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LegatusDavoke
05/06/14 12:21 AM
99.101.200.202
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But why not...say Clan Ferro Fibrous? What advantage does cardboard have?
There'll be the devil to pay mate. Better make it good, eh?
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KamikazeJohnson
05/06/14 12:30 AM
50.72.218.68
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Quote: LegatusDavoke writes:
But why not...say Clan Ferro Fibrous? What advantage does cardboard have?
1) Not a mixed-tech design. 2) Commercial Armour = 32 points/ton
Although if my math is correct, he used a half-ton (16 points) for only 5 points of actual armour due to the max armour limit.
Peace is that glorious moment in history when everyone stands around reloading.
--Thomas Jefferson
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KamikazeJohnson
05/06/14 01:34 AM
50.72.218.68
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Quote: KamikazeJohnson writes:
Quote: LegatusDavoke writes:
But why not...say Clan Ferro Fibrous? What advantage does cardboard have?
1) Not a mixed-tech design. 2) Commercial Armour = 32 points/ton
Although if my math is correct, he used a half-ton (16 points) for only 5 points of actual armour due to the max armour limit.
Correction...24 points/ton, so only 3 points of armour wasted.
Peace is that glorious moment in history when everyone stands around reloading.
--Thomas Jefferson
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ghostrider
05/06/14 02:13 AM
66.74.185.20
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think of the original wasp and stinger. They had less armor then the locust did. Most light mechs will go internal almost anywhere they are hit with a normal ppc or higher in damage. Some a large laser would do so. That's why the panther is so dangerous to light mechs..
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TigerShark
05/06/14 02:36 AM
68.190.197.104
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The Light PPC is a good idea for this, but the final implementation leaves a bit to be desired. Hmm...
Quote: Code:Locust LCT-7X
Mass: 20 tons Tech Base: Inner Sphere Chassis Config: Biped Rules Level: Experimental Tech Era: All Eras (non-canon) Tech Rating/Era Availability: E/X-X-X-A Production Year: 3090 Cost: 4,421,200 C-Bills Battle Value: 734
Chassis: Unknown Endo-Steel Power Plant: Unknown 160 Fusion XL Engine Walking Speed: 86.4 km/h Maximum Speed: 129.6 km/h Jump Jets: None Jump Capacity: 0 meters Armor: Unknown Light Ferro-Fibrous Armament: 2 Light PPCs 1 Small X-Pulse Laser Manufacturer: Unknown Primary Factory: Unknown Communications System: Unknown Targeting and Tracking System: Unknown
Overview: Corean Enterprises initially balked at the idea of investing any cash into the Locust program until they received assurances from the Word of Blake that the Militia would purchase the first year's limited production run. After studying the plans of the redesign, they were thoroughly impressed and satisfied with what they saw. The redesign would require very little capital investment for start up, and Corean moved forward confident in the knowledge that the company would reap plenty of profit in producing the new Locust. Agreeing to terms with Vicore, contracts were signed and designs licensed, after which Corean Enterprises designated the Locust the LCT-5M and began production.
Capabilities: The Locust redesign required a few fundamental design changes. The engineers on the R&D team decided that the best attribute of the Locust was its speed and further made the choice to increase the 'Mech's speed by thirty-three percent. They did this by replacing the Magna 160 with the Hermes 240 XL power plant. To take advantage of the new speed, the designers replaced the original LCT-3M's weapons with a loadout of extended range lasers. In doing so, they dropped the Anti-Missile System and CASE, increasing the 'Mech's armor protection to its maximum.
Deployment: True to their word, Blakist officials from the Office of Procurement arrived at the completion of the first production run for the LCT-5M. The new 'Mechs were shipped in Level II size to each Blakist Division and dispersed, giving each Level III access to at least one new LCT-5M.
Variants: Corean Enterprises was the only manufacturer in the Inner Sphere that began production of the new Locust. Achernar BattleMechs agreed to terms with Vicore, but has not yet begun production. They are slated to start up on August 1 3067. They will be producing the LCT-5M after purchasing the license from Corean Enterprises. Currently, the remaining Houses have expressed no interest in the Locust program. The Periphery nations, on the other hand, readily agreed to the new design. They were happy to have a design that would take advantage of their latest Rocket Launcher Technology. Two variants were introduced to the Periphery nations. The LCT-5V has been picked up by both the Magistracy of Canopus and Taurian Concordat for production. This variant would incorporate Ferro-Fibrous Armor, two extended range medium lasers and two Rocket Launcher 10s. The original 160 LTV engine would be used keeping the original speed of the Locust. The LCT-1V2 variant has been seen in the forces of the Marian Hegemony, but where it has been manufactured is unknown at the current time. Speculations and rumors from the region, however, are rife concerning a new small-scale BattleMech factory located within the depths of the Hegemony. Considering the rumors circulating concerning a major new Germanium find, the two could go hand in hand. This variant appears to remove all the weapons save one medium laser and add four Rocket Launcher 10s.
================================================================================ Equipment Type Rating Mass -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Internal Structure: Endo-Steel 33 points 1.00 Internal Locations: 7 LA, 7 RA Engine: XL Fusion Engine 160 3.00 Walking MP: 8 Running MP: 12 Jumping MP: 0 Heat Sinks: Double Heat Sink 10(20) 0.00 Heat Sink Locations: 2 LT, 2 RT Gyro: Standard 2.00 Cockpit: Standard 3.00 Actuators: L: SH+UA R: SH+UA Armor: Light Ferro-Fibrous AV - 67 4.00 Armor Locations: 1 HD, 2 LT, 2 RT, 1 LL, 1 RL
Internal Armor Structure Factor Head 3 8 Center Torso 6 8 Center Torso (rear) 3 L/R Torso 5 8 L/R Torso (rear) 2 L/R Arm 3 6 L/R Leg 4 8
================================================================================ Equipment Location Heat Critical Mass -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Light PPC RA 5 2 3.00 Light PPC LA 5 2 3.00 Small X-Pulse Laser CT 3 1 1.00 Null Signature System * 10 7 0.00 Free Critical Slots: 0
* The Null Signature System occupies 1 slot in every location except the HD.
BattleForce Statistics MV S (+0) M (+2) L (+4) E (+6) Wt. Ov Armor: 2 Points: 7 8 2 2 1 0 1 0 Structure: 1 Special Abilities: ECM, STL, ENE, SRCH, ES, SEAL, SOA
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Karagin
05/08/14 09:59 PM
70.118.139.48
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The BAR ratings and such are a joke. They should have never stepped away from the normal armor ratings for conventional vehicles and support vehicles and it should have never been allowed to be used on Battlemechs at all.
Karagin
Given time and plenty of paper, a philosopher can prove anything.
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Karagin
05/08/14 09:59 PM
70.118.139.48
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Hey Tigershark I already posted a Locust with Light PPCs...
Karagin
Given time and plenty of paper, a philosopher can prove anything.
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ghostrider
05/09/14 05:52 AM
24.30.128.46
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Different version. he used a null system were you had the extra mls. There is nothing saying multiple people can't post one, though it would be respectful to changed the denominator for a different variant.
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