Akalabeth
04/14/16 04:41 AM
108.180.183.124
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It's always annoyed me that there are no lighter tanks with AC/10s, as the lightest MBT-style tank is the Po or for a Hover the Gladius. So, here's a simple design to fill the gap. Twice as heavy as the Scorpion but with twice the gun as well.
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BattleTech Vehicle Technical Readout
VALIDATED
Type/Model: Bobcat Urban Defense Tank
Tech: Inner Sphere / 3025
Config: Wheeled Vehicle
Rules: Level 1, Standard design
Mass: 40 tons
Power Plant: 140 I.C.E.
Cruise Speed: 43.2 km/h
Maximum Speed: 64.8 km/h
Armor Type: Standard
Armament:
1 Autocannon/10
1 Machine Gun
Manufacturer: (Unknown)
Location: (Unknown)
Communications System: (Unknown)
Targeting & Tracking System: (Unknown)
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Type/Model: Bobcat Urban Defense Tank
Mass: 40 tons
Equipment: Items Mass
Int. Struct.: 20 pts Standard 0 4.00
Engine: 140 I.C.E. 0 10.00
Cruise MP: 4
Flank MP: 6
Heat Sinks: 0 Single 0 .00
Cockpit & Controls: 0 2.00
Crew: 3 Members 0 .00
Turret Equipment: 0 1.50
Armor Factor: 120 pts Standard 0 7.50
Internal Armor
Structure Value
Front: 4 30
Left / Right Sides: 4 23/23
Rear: 4 14
Turret: 4 30
Weapons and Equipment Loc Heat Ammo Items Mass
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1 Autocannon/10 Turret 0 20 2 14.00
1 Machine Gun Turret 0 100 2 1.00
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TOTALS: 0 4 40.00
Items & Tons Left: 9 .00
Calculated Factors:
Total Cost: 544,000 C-Bills
Battle Value 2: 517 (old BV = 287)
Cost per BV: 1,052.22
Weapon Value: 193 / 193 (Ratio = .37 / .37)
Damage Factors: SRDmg = 9; MRDmg = 5; LRDmg = 1
BattleForce2: MP: 4W, Armor/Structure: 0 / 5
Damage PB/M/L: 1/1/-, Overheat: 0
Class: GM; Point Value: 5
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CarcerKango
04/14/16 08:45 AM
64.251.51.247
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What about the Tiger T-12? Granted it has less armor.
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ghostrider
04/14/16 01:08 PM
66.74.61.223
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The tiger a battletech tank, or a real tank ported over?
I don't know all the units that were posted here, so I am sure others don't as well.
One nitpick thing is the scorpion is 25 tons. This is not quite double the weight.
Still looks usable.
It is kind of sad mg ammo can only be half ton for smallest amount. 100 shots is very unlikely to ever be used in most combats. Not like a quarter ton would do much.
If you used fractional accounting, this along with controls and a little weight shaved from the turret, you might fit a little more armor, but oh well.
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CarcerKango
04/14/16 01:31 PM
64.251.51.247
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No, Tiger T-12 is a tank from the Age of War, light armor, 5/8 move, AC/10.
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Akalabeth
04/14/16 01:53 PM
108.180.183.124
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Oh yeah I'd forgotten the Tiger. I think I have been using the Tiger occasionally but sometimes I don't find Tiger in the list of vehicles for whatever program I'm using so I think that's part of why I don't often use it. And honestly using a program like HMV to find vehicles is sub-optimal. Because "Level 1" rules to find 3026 tanks actually leaves out a lot of tanks which use "level 3 construction" rules. And you can't sort it by year either because that leaves out retro-tech or some vehicles aren't listed in the proper years. Big pain in the arse. SAW is around and might be better but it doesn't print two vehicles per sheet so I never use it. There's no miniature for the tiger either.
But recently I wanted a wheeled vehicle with an AC/10 because I like the idea of something similar to the AEC Armoured Car used by the British which used the same guns as the tanks did.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/AEC_Armoured_Car
I find there are a lot of potential vehicle types which don't exist in battletech. Like a smaller, tracked tank or wheeled tank with a Gauss rifle for example. Like what is the smallest, IS tracked tank with a Gauss? The rommel? Turreted Gauss I mean. I want a battle tank, not a tank destroyer (Hetzer-style). I guess the Demon is lighter but I've used the Demon so many times already. Speaking of the Demon, 2750 TRO is actually very disappointing for light & medium vehicles, they have so many throw-away helicopters and hovers (2 OS SRM-4s on the Lightning??). More recently they've added some AoW vehicles like the Marsden and Merkava but as much as I love those tanks they still pack plinky AC/5s. So yeah I'd like some more, lighter tracked&wheeled vehicles with heavier ballistic guns and thus I end up designing them myself most of the time for use in our campaign.
My vehicle might be a bit over-armoured, I can probably put some more guns on there. I just tend to default to those sort of armour levels when I design a tank for whatever reason. If I drop a bit of armour could get it up to 5/8 as well. Though if I'm trying to be thematic with the vehicle I should probably at least match the Vedette for armour.
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CarcerKango
04/14/16 08:46 PM
73.4.87.73
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OOh, I should post up my Maverick design....
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Retry
04/14/16 08:55 PM
68.103.19.152
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I'd honestly go with a fusion engine and install a large laser instead of an AC, since they still need to be light enough to be useful.
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CarcerKango
04/14/16 09:09 PM
73.4.87.73
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BUT AC/10's HAS MORE DAKKA
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Akalabeth
04/14/16 10:33 PM
64.251.81.66
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Yeah a fusion-variant could be an upgrade but this is intentionally supposed to be cheap, low tech, ICE-type.
Plus for Large Laser-equipped tanks, there's already the Goblin, the Bulldog, the Chevalier, the Korvin and the Turhan so I don't really see an absence of suitable vehicles to use.
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ghostrider
04/15/16 12:54 AM
66.74.61.223
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It is stupid the cost of a large laser is half of the ac 10.
But it is nice to see some one trying to use ammo weapons again.
So the use for this vehicle would be escort of important people in a city, when mechs not available?
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