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04/24/18 01:52 PM
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I was planning on using these for some sort of campaign as "boss" units, or high-value strategic targets. Haven't had the opportunity to do so though. Thus, they're loaded out with a ridiculous number of positive quirks and the 'Mech in particular is ludricously costly.
The TFCV is just a wheeled vehicle with IS equipment. Thumper cannon for support, and lightly armed primarily against infantry threats otherwise. They'll probably start out somewhere in a built-up position protected by its company as well as BA and infantry whenever encountered. One is cheaper than an XLE equipped battlemech, so it's not too pricey for its command capabilities.
The TFCT is not reasonably priced and is intended to be a one-off final boss sort of thing. It's tripodal, has mostly Clan equipment, plenty of laser AMS, an augmented C3 Boosted Master to assist its defending company, and the source of the majority of its price issues: A Mobile HPG. It provides heavier artillery support with a Long Tom but only has an ERLL to back up on.
Since I didn't want the final boss to be too easily cheesed up too quickly by LB-X or SRM spam taking it down by sheer # of head hits (which would make for an anti-climatic battle) I added in a custom quirk to make the mech more resilient against them.
There's also the TFCM, which is a more conventional design than the other two, but not as well armored or protected in general.
The PCs would be in charge of at least a Company of 'Mechs or Vehicles each, with mechanized BA when applicable and Aerospace assets (mostly Conventional Fighters). They'd be in charge of destroying the TFCM or TFCV to heavily impact the invading force's command capabilities.
As such, these are more flavor units than anything someone would actually field. (Except maybe the TFCV could see some use as it doesn't break a budget too badly, but YMMV)
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Task Force Command Vehicle (TFCV)
Base Tech Level: Experimental (IS)
Level Era
Experimental -
Advanced 3145+
Standard -
Tech Rating: F/X-X-F-E
Weight: 160 tons
BV: 2,169
Cost: 16,283,550 C-bills
Movement: 2/3 (Wheeled)
Engine: 280
Internal: 128
Armor: 600 (Vehicular Stealth)
Internal Armor
Front 16 95
Front Right 16 75
Front Left 16 75
Rear Right 16 70
Rear Left 16 70
Rear 16 50
Rear Turret 16 90
Front Turret 16 75
Weapons Loc Heat
C3 Computer [Master] TU 0
Thumper FT 5
MML 3 (ST) FRRS 2
MML 3 (ST) FRLS 2
Light Machine Gun RRRS 0
Light Machine Gun RRLS 0
Light Machine Gun (ST) FRLS 0
Light Machine Gun (ST) FRLS 0
Light Machine Gun (ST) FRRS 0
Light Machine Gun (ST) FRRS 0
MML 3 TU 2
MML 3 TU 2
MML 3 TU 2
Light Machine Gun RR 0
Light Machine Gun TU 0
Ammo Loc Shots
Thumper Ammo BD 20
Thumper Ammo BD 20
Thumper Ammo BD 20
Light Machine Gun Ammo [Half] BD 100
MML 3 LRM Ammo BD 40
MML 3 LRM Ammo BD 40
MML 3 SRM Ammo BD 33
MML 3 SRM Ammo BD 33
Equipment Loc
Vehicular Stealth BD
Bloodhound Active Probe BD
Communications Equipment (7 ton) BD
Cockpit Command Console BD
Angel ECM Suite BD
Bulldozer FR
CASE BD
Vehicular Sponson Turret FRRS
Trailer Hitch RR
Quirks:
Power Reverse
Improved Communications
Improved Sensors
Battle Computer
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Task Force Command Tripod(TFCT)
Base Tech Level: Experimental Mixed (Base IS)
Level Era
Experimental -
Advanced 3145+
Standard -
Tech Rating: F/X-X-X-F
Weight: 200 tons
BV: 3,861
Cost: 12,087,586,000 C-bills (Yes, you read that right)
Movement: 2/2
Engine: 400 XL
Double Heat Sinks: 16 [32]
Cockpit: Superheavy Tripod Cockpit
Gyro: Superheavy Gyro
Internal: 340 (Endo-Steel)
Armor: 392/683 (Hardened)
Internal Armor
Head 4 12
Center Torso 60 50
Center Torso (rear) 15
Right Torso 42 40
Right Torso (rear) 10
Left Torso 42 40
Left Torso (rear) 10
Right Arm 33 40
Left Arm 33 40
Right Leg 42 45
Left Leg 42 45
Center Leg 42 45
Weapons Loc Heat
C3 Boosted System (C3BS) [Master] LA 0
Long Tom RT/RA 20
Laser AMS (Clan) CL 5
Laser AMS (Clan) RL 5
Laser AMS (Clan) LL 5
ER Large Laser (Clan) CT 12
Ammo Loc Shots
Long Tom Ammo LT 5
Long Tom Ammo LT 5
Long Tom Ammo LT 5
Long Tom Ammo LT 5
Long Tom Ammo LT 5
Long Tom Ammo LT 5
Long Tom Ammo LT 5
Long Tom Ammo LT 5
Equipment Loc
Communications Equipment (8 ton) RT
Communications Equipment (8 ton) LT
Bloodhound Active Probe LT
Angel ECM Suite HD
Mobile Hyperpulse Generators (Ground-Mobile HPG) CT
CASE II (Clan) LT
Quirks:
Narrow/Low Profile
Improved Life Support
Improved Sensors
Improved Communications
Protected Actuators
Cowl
Combat Computer
Battle Computer
Colossal Head Structure (The head is so heavy that it absorbs most of the energy of smaller shelves with negligible harm to the crew. Only attacks dealing more than 2 damage can cause pilot damage as a result of a head hit due to this property.)
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Task Force Command Mech (TFCM)
Base Tech Level: Experimental (IS)
Level Era
Experimental -
Advanced 3145+
Standard -
Tech Rating: F/X-X-F-E
Weight: 100 tons
BV: 2,024
Cost: 16,680,000 C-bills
Movement: 3/5
Engine: 300
Double Heat Sinks: 12 [24]
Cockpit: Command Console
Gyro: Standard Gyro
Internal: 152
Armor: 304/307
Internal Armor
Head 3 9
Center Torso 31 47
Center Torso (rear) 14
Right Torso 21 32
Right Torso (rear) 9
Left Torso 21 32
Left Torso (rear) 9
Right Arm 17 34
Left Arm 17 34
Right Leg 21 42
Left Leg 21 42
Weapons Loc Heat
C3 Computer [Master] LT 0
Arrow IV RT/RA 10
Laser AMS LL 7
Laser AMS RL 7
Ammo Loc Shots
Arrow IV Ammo RT 5
Arrow IV Ammo RT 5
Arrow IV Ammo RT 5
Arrow IV Ammo RT 5
Arrow IV Ammo RT 5
Arrow IV Ammo RT 5
Equipment Loc
Communications Equipment (7 ton) LT
Angel ECM Suite CT
Bloodhound Active Probe LA
CASE II RT
Quirks:
Battle Computer
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AmaroqStarwind
04/24/18 08:00 PM
108.255.82.176
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Since the Command Tripod doesn't carry any weapons in the left arm/torso, I would suggest giving it a shield as well.
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04/24/18 08:59 PM
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Doable, it'll require downgrading the twin 8-ton Comms EQ to 4-tonners though.
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AmaroqStarwind
04/24/18 09:25 PM
174.235.17.140
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An XXL Engine could make up the difference, and free up one ton extra if my math is correct. Using an expensive, Clan-made XXL Engine on an ultraheavy would mitigate the size penalty somewhat, and wouldn't increase the cost too much.
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Edited by AmaroqStarwind (04/24/18 09:29 PM)
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04/24/18 11:36 PM
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Sure, but the XXL increased vulnerability (which I don't want on a "boss" unit) and I think I'm a bit lacking in the crits department too
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AmaroqStarwind
04/24/18 11:51 PM
174.235.17.140
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Hmm... I dunno what to suggest for saving weight then.
I already did some math for using a different engine type, but since it is a custom component which was created long before rules for SuperHeavy mechs existed, I'm not sure you would want to use it. I can send you details in a private message.
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Edited by AmaroqStarwind (04/25/18 11:10 AM)
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ghostrider
04/25/18 01:41 PM
66.74.61.223
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technically the command unit should not be in fire fights normally, though there are times when the enemy does slip something thru.
Though after a while, you wonder if a shuttle or dropship might not be a better idea. That runs the risk of being shot down, though fighters are a risk to land based units.
The tripod should have a piloting issue with the super heavy head. Just seems to make sense.
Did they break up armor on vehicles? The first unit says wheeled, but has right front, left front, right rear, and left rear internal and armor values. Also not sure if they have a super heavy wheeled unit. Out of date rules.
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happyguy49
04/28/18 10:26 PM
107.181.176.106
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"Cost: 12,087,586,000 C-bills (Yes, you read that right)"
..how in the world? 12 billion? Is it the multiple HPG's?
And SCREW destroying that, with it being that valuable the thing to do would be to disable it and STEAL IT! A merc group would kit out all its Omni units with fire weapons, taser cannon, TSEMP, emp warheads, etc, bring some elite pro antibattlemech infantry, and try like hell to seize that unit and cart it off.
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04/28/18 10:58 PM
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Quote:
"Cost: 12,087,586,000 C-bills (Yes, you read that right)"
..how in the world? 12 billion? Is it the multiple HPG's?
And SCREW destroying that, with it being that valuable the thing to do would be to disable it and STEAL IT! A merc group would kit out all its Omni units with fire weapons, taser cannon, TSEMP, emp warheads, etc, bring some elite pro antibattlemech infantry, and try like hell to seize that unit and cart it off.
It's 1 HPG multiplied by the high cost multiplier of a 200-ton mech.
TSEMP doesn't work on units 200 tons and heavier.
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