Katrina Steiner-Davion

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Requiem
05/07/18 04:01 AM
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If she was making long term plans to become more than her brother’s (Victor Steiner-Davion) regent half the time, as she was seeking power for the sake of having power. The question must be asked as to why she would contract the murder of her mother (Melissa Steiner) first, as she was not the greatest impediment to her acquisition of power.

Was she so vain that she had to destroy Victor whilst making sure he knew it was her that brought him low?

As a consummate politician, the rules of succession are clear – in the event Victor is deceased she is the next in line of succession to become the First Princess of the Federated Commonwealth.

If only she would have reviewed a little history and acted like Livia (Julia Augusta) with regards to assassination for the sake of the empire’s future rulers – with a single death, that of her brother Victor, she would have then been the undeniable ruler – especially if he had died in “glorious” combat against the clans and those that assisted in his demise could also soon thereafter died in combat.

Patience and the correct application of a dagger in the right spot at the right time (minimising the amount of blood spilt) and power would have been hers.

The question then would have been - would one of her younger siblings then pick up the glove and challenge her for the throne if evidence had finally eventuated that she was responsible for Victor’s demise?

And how the fate of the Inner Sphere would have changed as she proclaimed herself First Lord of the Star League and therefore started a 5th Succession war.

Requiem
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Requiem
05/07/18 05:07 AM
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An addition thought … or two …

Consider how long would Melissa remain in power after receiving notification of her son’s death – one / two years at the maximum before the grief becomes too much and she abdicates?

Katrina could live with this before she assumes total power.

There also could be an opportunity here – Let us say Morgan is not assassinated whist commanding Task Force Serpent. However, on the return journey Victor is assassinated (if he survives). Then she is able to uncover “evidence” that the Draconis Combine is responsible for his death …. The outrage would be equal to that of Kentares Massacre … the Federated Commonwealth would unleash a total invasion that would leave the Draconis Combine reeling from the damage due to the Federated Commonwealth’s ‘all out’ assault ….

(Nt: in my universe the Capellan Confederation has been absorbed into the Federated Commonwealth during the 3039/40 war)

Thus leaving only the Free Worlds League and now a much reduced Draconis Combine to an ever increasing Federated Commonwealth ….

This would ensure that all other realms would have to recognise her as the First Lord of the Star League .. Waa haa haa (evil laugh)!!!!!!

Requiem
Adelaide, Australia
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Requiem
05/07/18 07:16 AM
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On a side note, can anyone explain how Katrina can rule the Federated Suns as the basic requirements include the following .....

"Only a member of House Davion may become a First Prince, but only if they have achieved 20 years of age and have served at least five years in the military". (as per Sarna's Federated Suns Wiki)

Where and when did she serve five years in the military .....

As a regent I could understand that this could be waived, however even in the Dark Age this was still a pre-requisite for all rulers ......

Or can we just assume the writers decided this was a non issue for the progression of the story at the time .......

Requiem
Adelaide, Australia
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ghostrider
05/07/18 02:44 PM
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The idea of comstar stepping in to help the DC/FWL would probably be done. They would not allow the FC to become so powerful, that comstars plans for ruling the IS would become a fight for survival for them.
It is recorded in the books, Hanse did not trust Comstar. He would eventually turn to taking them over as well.

And with this, why did Katrina (the elder) not suggest the DC would have been the better target. The CC was weak enough that it would have been a worry, but not really a threat to them as they went after the Combine. The FWL might have stepped up their attacks, but with FS forces helping train and defend the LC, they would probably have kept to themselves. This does destroy the 'reason' for the war, as the FS could not claim it was retaliating against the CC for the attempt on the princes life. (the double)

The prince could well have had the LC invest even more money keeping the FWL dealing with internal troubles, basically keeping them completely out of the war.
There is alot that could be used, and wasn't.
Requiem
05/07/18 07:41 PM
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Pardon? …..

First Point,

Hanse died of a massive heart attack years ago ….

We are in a post Operation Bulldog / Serpent timeframe

ComStar’s ComGuard is open for all to see (though word of Blake’s is another matter altogether)
At this stage if Katrina declares war upon the Draconis Combine, for fearing Victor’s combat ability as one of history’s greatest generals, the reason given as to why “they” assassinated him in a most base manner.

ComGuard could only attempt to act as peacekeepers – though in reality the first circuit would welcome a war between the Federated Commonwealth and The Draconis Combine (as they could funnel weapons to the Draconis Combine to prolong the war and the damage to the armed forces of the Federated Commonwealth). Thus setting both sides up for a Word of Blake assault (if at this time Word of Blake and ComStar had reconciled and were working toward a common goal of rulership of the Inner Sphere).

Second Point, what does the 3039 War era have to do with this post re her rulership in a post Task Force Serpent timeframe?

OK then ……The idea that Katrina (the elder) – during the 3039 War era – would go after the Draconis Combine above that of the Capellan Confederation because they are a greater threat it is the point I am making – Simple military and political theory suggests you consolidate your gains, never leaving a week enemy in your rear as you never know what they might do and what they might become – also remember the main point of the war against the Capellans, again, the destruction of an entire House and realm, a feat that no one has ever done would be a political and military coup above that of any of the remaining houses. In addition you must consider the remaining Capellan economy – over time the Federated Commonwealth military strength would increase to 3 or 3 ½ times that of everyone else within 10 years. The Free Wolds League could be possibly approached with a wedding offer to join the new Star League together with the Federated Commonwealth, thus leaving a recalcitrant Draconis Combine out in the Cold.

Only at this stage could ComStar become militant and assist the Draconis Combine – but would they? – politically and militarily they are not in a good position to become the leaders of a Star League under their control.

Two different timelines with to different all out wars for control of the Inner Sphere.
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ghostrider
05/08/18 12:20 AM
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The thought was, changing a few simple facts such as Ian Davion not being killed on Malory's Word, would have avoided the entire issue of the 4 war causing all the bs that followed. You want to change history of the IS, that would be a better place to start.

The what if's should remove this entire story line of the FC becoming a reality.

As this post is partly based in the others, I can very much understand the confusion. I should have said some of this in the other threads.
Requiem
05/08/18 08:44 PM
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What I wanted to discuss was if “Katrina” was going to assassinate her way to throne what wold be the the most efficient and effective way for her to do this, so as to not leave her prints on the murder weapon.

I thus contend it was the death of Victor, on his own, either by …..

the assassin, in the warship (on the return journey from Clan Space), with the bottle of poison; or

The astech / mech-warriors, on the battlefield (in Clan Space), with a Battlemech.

The other two deaths were completely not necessary for her assenting to the Federated Commonwealths Thrown.

Requiem
Adelaide, Australia
Get thee to Coventry … Now is the winter of our discontent, made glorious by this daughter of Tharkad … Our army shall march through. Well to New Avalon tonight.
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