Karagin
01/03/19 12:04 AM
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Code: BattleMech Technical Readout
Type/Model: Castiger CTR-6R
Tech: Inner Sphere / 3132
Config: Biped BattleMech
Rules: Level 3, Standard design
Mass: 55 tons
Chassis: Kallon Type III Endo Steel
Power Plant: 275 Core Tek XL Fusion
Walking Speed: 54.0 km/h
Maximum Speed: 86.4 km/h
Jump Jets: None
Jump Capacity: 0 meters
Armor Type: Wall Type 8 Light w/CASE Light Ferro-Fibrous
Armament:
2 Kallon Rotary Rotary AC/2s
2 Blankenburg Medium Pulse Lasers
1 Ceres Arms ER Medium Laser
1 Garret Beagle Beagle Active Probe
Manufacturer: Tempest Industries
Location: Kathil
Communications System: Garret T11-b
Targeting & Tracking System: Garret T11b
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==Overview:==
The Castiger is designed to take on foes through sheer weight of numbers. The
idea behind the design is to offer enough firepower and defense to keep the
enemy at bay. This is done with Kallon Class 2 Dual Rotary Autocannons and
trio of laser weapons. Rounding out things is a Garret Beagle Active Probe.
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Type/Model: Castiger CTR-6R
Mass: 55 tons
Equipment: Crits Mass
Int. Struct.: 91 pts Endo Steel 14 3.00
(Endo Steel Loc: 1 HD, 3 LA, 2 RA, 2 LT, 2 RT, 2 LL, 2 RL)
Engine: 275 XL Fusion 12 8.00
Walking MP: 5
Running MP: 8
Jumping MP: 0
Heat Sinks: 11 Double [22] 0 1.00
Gyro: 4 3.00
Cockpit, Life Supt., Sensors: 5 3.00
Actuators: L: Sh+UA+LA+H R: Sh+UA+LA 15 .00
Armor Factor: 185 pts Light Ferro-Fibrous 7 11.00
(Armor Crit Loc: 2 LA, 1 RA, 2 LT, 2 RT)
Internal Armor
Structure Value
Head: 3 9
Center Torso: 18 27
Center Torso (Rear): 9
L/R Side Torso: 13 20/20
L/R Side Torso (Rear): 6/6
L/R Arm: 9 18/18
L/R Leg: 13 26/26
Weapons and Equipment Loc Heat Ammo Crits Mass
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2 Rotary AC/2s RA 2 135 9 19.00
(Ammo Locations: 3 RT)
2 Medium Pulse Lasers LA 8 2 4.00
1 ER Medium Laser LT 5 1 1.00
1 Beagle Active Probe CT 0 2 1.50
CASE Equipment: RT 1 .50
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TOTALS: 25 72 55.00
Crits & Tons Left: 6 .00
Calculated Factors:
Total Cost: 10,215,636 C-Bills
Battle Value 2: 1,357 (old BV = 1,089)
Cost per BV2: 7,528.1
Weapon Value: 1,140 / 1,140 (Ratio = .84 / .84)
Damage Factors: SRDmg = 25; MRDmg = 12; LRDmg = 4
BattleForce2: MP: 5, Armor/Structure: 5/2
Damage PB/M/L: 4/3/2, Overheat: 1
Class: MM; Point Value: 14
Specials: prb
Karagin
Given time and plenty of paper, a philosopher can prove anything.
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happyguy49
01/05/19 04:52 AM
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I like the weapons, the dual Rotarys are super nice, they behave like a long-range SRM6, great for extreme-range crit finding. That said, I'm going to be unfair in criticizing the rest of this design, because I'm going to point out a major flaw with a majority of new Spheroid designs since like 3048 or so.
It is the DAMN SPHEROID EXTRALIGHT ENGINE. You lose a side-torso and you are out of the game from engine crits. Inner Sphere xl engines are poo. They should only be used on fighters and (maybe) vehicles, if the use-case justifies the higher cost.
Basically, in the Dark Age era, the Inner Sphere should have transitioned away from using its own Extralight engines, to using Light engines combined with other weight-saving technologies. This results in much more survivable mech designs.
Basically almost any XL engine Inner Sphere mech (in any TRO since 3050) should:
-drop the XL engine, put in a Light Engine AND do as much of the following as possible:
-use Endo Steel
-use an XL gyro
-use a Small Cockpit (unless it's a command unit or physical brawler)
-use a lighter armor, for instance light ferro as your design does.
I ran the below re-design through SSW, weapons are the same (except I made the medium pulses X-pulses, because why not) but it uses the above described philosophy to increase the Castiger's battlefield lifespan. There is one less heat sink, a half-ton less armor. It even costs a million bucks less.
Castiger CTR-6R (alternate)
Mass: 55 tons
Tech Base: Inner Sphere
Chassis Config: Biped
Rules Level: Experimental Tech
Era: Dark Ages
Tech Rating/Era Availability: E/X-X-E-A
Production Year: 3132
Cost: 9,089,665 C-Bills
Battle Value: 1,385
Chassis: Unknown Endo-Steel
Power Plant: Unknown 275 Light Fusion Engine
Walking Speed: 54.0 km/h
Maximum Speed: 86.4 km/h
Jump Jets: None
Jump Capacity: 0 meters
Armor: Unknown Light Ferro-Fibrous w/ CASE
Armament:
2 Rotary AC/2s
2 Medium X-Pulse Lasers
1 ER Medium Laser
1 Beagle Active Probe
Manufacturer: Unknown
Primary Factory: Unknown
Communications System: Unknown
Targeting and Tracking System: Unknown
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Equipment Type Rating Mass
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Internal Structure: Endo-Steel 91 points 3.00
Internal Locations: 2 HD, 2 LT, 2 RT, 2 LA, 2 RA, 2 LL, 2 RL
Engine: Light Fusion Engine 275 12.00
Walking MP: 5
Running MP: 8
Jumping MP: 0
Heat Sinks: Double Heat Sink 10(20) 0.00
Gyro: XL 1.50
Cockpit: Small 2.00
Actuators: L: SH+UA+LA+H R: SH+UA+LA+H
Armor: Light Ferro-Fibrous AV - 178 10.50
Armor Locations: 2 LT, 2 RT, 3 LA
CASE Locations: 1 RT 0.50
Internal Armor
Structure Factor
Head 3 9
Center Torso 18 28
Center Torso (rear) 7
L/R Torso 13 19
L/R Torso (rear) 7
L/R Arm 9 18
L/R Leg 13 23
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Equipment Location Heat Critical Mass
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ER Medium Laser LT 5 1 1.00
Beagle Active Probe LT 0 2 1.50
2 Rotary AC/2s RA 2 6 16.00
2 Medium X-Pulse Lasers LA 12 2 4.00
@Rotary AC/2 (135) RT - 3 3.00
Free Critical Slots: 6
BattleForce Statistics
MV S (+0) M (+2) L (+4) E (+6) Wt. Ov Armor: 6 Points: 14
5 3 3 2 0 2 1 Structure: 3
Special Abilities: PRB, RCN, CASE, SRCH, ES, SEAL, SOA
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Karagin
01/05/19 10:28 AM
72.176.187.91
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Great...but not everyone is going to have access to all the high tech wonder toys...
Karagin
Given time and plenty of paper, a philosopher can prove anything.
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ghostrider
01/05/19 04:33 PM
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By 3132 the IS engine manufacturers should have been able to duplicate the clans XL engines and make it so the IS mechs can survive losing a torso.
But that would lessen the tech difference between them and the clans.
This is something that seems to be avoided by the developers. The IS learning how to make the better equipment.
The same can be said of the case. Make it part of the ammo bin itself.
Now the list of what feels like should be done with all XL using models, that might work for new mechs. Existing mechs would have to undergo a major refitting to do the engine swap.
But then who would want to buy a unit that it is difficult to do anything in the cockpit?
That is a down side when you are looking at it from a more realistic way.
The XL gyro is ok. But having the people that can build and work on it is questionable.
For designs, yeah. Squeezing the max out of a unit by using all the little tricks is great for most.
For a few. They like a more realistic approach to things.
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Karagin
01/05/19 05:10 PM
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So moving back to the original posting....
Karagin
Given time and plenty of paper, a philosopher can prove anything.
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ghostrider
01/06/19 01:59 AM
66.74.60.165
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The swarm or horde tactic, for me, is large numbers of short ranged units to take out enemies. Get in and hammer another unit. Normally lighter units being used.
Does it work? For the cost, no. But you can do some heavy damage if done right.
This unit seems to try to do both at once. Which doesn't seem right in my opinion.
It doesn't look bad as a unit to use.
The pulse lasers seem to be an oddity, but I do understand the need to hit better.
I can't place it right now, but something doesn't fit.
But then that is one persons opinion.
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