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Karagin
07/23/02 03:21 PM
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Okay I am working on the fluff...will post it once I get it done...so what do you guys think of this one?

Type/Model: Sundry
Tech: Inner Sphere / 3050
Config: Biped BattleMech
Rules: Level 2, Standard design

Mass: 100 tons
Chassis: Endo Steel
Power Plant: 300 Vlar Fusion
Walking Speed: 32.4 km/h
Maximum Speed: 54.0 km/h
Jump Jets: None
Jump Capacity: 0 meters
Armor Type: Standard
Armament:
2 PPCs
4 LRM 15s
Manufacturer: (Unknown)
Location: (Unknown)
Communications System: (Unknown)
Targeting & Tracking System: (Unknown)

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Type/Model: Sundry
Mass: 100 tons

Equipment: Crits Mass
Int. Struct.: 152 pts Endo Steel 14 5.00
(Endo Steel Loc: 1 HD, 3 LA, 2 RA, 1 LT, 1 RT, 2 CT, 2 LL, 2 RL)
Engine: 300 6 19.00
Walking MP: 3
Running MP: 5
Jumping MP: 0
Heat Sinks: 16 Double [32] 12 6.00
(Heat Sink Loc: 1 LA, 1 RA, 1 LT, 1 RT)
Gyro: 4 3.00
Cockpit, Life Supt., Sensors: 5 3.00
Actuators: L: Sh+UA+LA R: Sh+UA+LA 14 .00
Armor Factor: 288 pts Standard 0 18.00

Internal Armor
Structure Value
Head: 3 9
Center Torso: 31 49
Center Torso (Rear): 10
L/R Side Torso: 21 30/30
L/R Side Torso (Rear): 9/9
L/R Arm: 17 34/34
L/R Leg: 21 37/37

Weapons and Equipment Loc Heat Ammo Crits Mass
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1 PPC RA 10 3 7.00
1 PPC LA 10 3 7.00
2 LRM 15s RT 10 32 10 18.00
(Ammo Locations: 2 LT, 2 RT)
2 LRM 15s LT 10 6 14.00
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TOTALS: 40 77 100.00
Crits & Tons Left: 1 .00

Calculated Factors:
Total Cost: 10,612,000 C-Bills
Battle Value: 1,778
Cost per BV: 5,968.5
Weapon Value: 3,094 / 3,094 (Ratio = 1.74 / 1.74)
Damage Factors: SRDmg = 17; MRDmg = 32; LRDmg = 18
BattleForce2: MP: 3, Armor/Structure: 7/8
Damage PB/M/L: 4/4/4, Overheat: 1
Class: MA; Point Value: 18
Karagin

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CrayModerator
07/23/02 03:34 PM
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Nice. The only place it has trouble is at 3 hexes or less. I'd almost think about taking this up against a stock Sagittaire - two clashing philosophies.

Did you fit CASE on there? Even without, that's a very rugged mech.
Mike Miller, Materials Engineer

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Karagin
07/23/02 04:15 PM
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No CASE, wanted it but I felt that if used right it would be out off ammo before it was damaged enough to worry about ammo going off...would be interested in see how it would do against the Sagittaire aka Super Urbanmech.
Karagin

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NathanKell
07/23/02 04:44 PM
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Interesting indeed! This is one I'd *definitely* consider using...it has that "Super Awesome" feel to it. And wasn't there an AWS variant with LRMs?
Personally I'd drop an LRM (and maybe some leg armor) for Artemis and some ERMLs. Or just ERMLs. Just in case, y'know...

Actually, dropping 4pts on each leg and consolidating the ammo in one torso would be perfect for CASE.

All in all quite good!
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NathanKell
07/23/02 04:46 PM
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Heh. The 60L was always IMO a hairs-breadth from greatness, a poor-man's Hunchie. If only there were a couple more tons to play with...
-NathanKell, BT Space Wars
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Karagin
07/23/02 05:33 PM
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Thanks, I like your suggestion on the ammo and CASE idea and will add that to the fluff for a variant.
Karagin

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Nightmare
07/24/02 07:06 AM
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Tough enough, and it will be working with other mechs, so the minimum ranges don`t pose too much of a problem. Still, if there are complaints, I would swap the PPCs for Large Lasers and add something for the leftover tons. CASE and a few Medium Lasers can`t go wrong. Or just see to it you always pair this machine with a close-combat mech, like a Grasshopper or Hunchback...Now where do I want to be?
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Tron
07/24/02 08:03 AM
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It's all about personal tastes.
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Karagin
07/24/02 12:21 PM
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It has four tons of ammo...that is 8 shots per LRM15. How does it need a fifth ton of ammo?
Karagin

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Karagin
07/24/02 12:22 PM
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Another good variant possibility...
Karagin

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CrayModerator
07/24/02 12:29 PM
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Must be a personal taste, because I can't figure this one. One more ton only gives each LRM two more shots, or...10? Something about 10 shots per weapon minimum?
Mike Miller, Materials Engineer

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CrayModerator
07/24/02 12:31 PM
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Well, I'd mount MLs if you could...but I wouldn't sacrifice the PPCs for them or LLs. PPCs mesh well with the LRMs while LLs end up with some awkward range breaks.

What you need is a short range, high damage LRM round.
Mike Miller, Materials Engineer

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NathanKell
07/24/02 01:27 PM
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And don't you have just the ticket, from that West BF firm? Heavy Tactical missiles, or something?
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CrayModerator
07/24/02 02:41 PM
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The ER SRM from Acme Arms on Waythehelloutthere?
Mike Miller, Materials Engineer

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NathanKell
07/24/02 04:37 PM
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I thought you had a SR LRM, too.
But yes, Acme Arms, home of drunk swamp rat hunters.
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CrayModerator
07/24/02 05:07 PM
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>I thought you had a SR LRM, too.

Yes, no, sorta kinda.
Mike Miller, Materials Engineer

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Tron
07/25/02 07:28 PM
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In all honesty I don't see the need to near max out on armor. It could stand to have just a tinsy bit more firepower longevity.
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Karagin
01/27/07 01:29 AM
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New input welcome.
Karagin

Given time and plenty of paper, a philosopher can prove anything.
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