KamikazeJohnson
Major
Reged: 01/01/02
Posts: 1391
Loc: WINTERpeg, MB, Canada
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Disappearing people
#34842 - 08/04/02 07:48 PM (142.161.40.95)
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It would appear that the recent update caused a bug which "misplaced" a number of claimed people, most notable CiCs. Either that, or its an old bug rearing its ugly head once again 
I've been running multiple empires, since there's so much wait time at the start...in two of them, my CiC is MIA, in another (where I had only the CiC claimed) I now have no empire, and in a fourth (where I had joined another player's empire) I also have no empire.
It would appear that somehow the primary character has been deleted or at least moved elsewhere, although it did not happen to everyone.
I am not the only one to experience this at this time (see Technical Questions forum)
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I kill $%!^.
And I enjoy the hell out of it.
--Ted Nugent
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KamikazeJohnson
Major
Reged: 01/01/02
Posts: 1391
Loc: WINTERpeg, MB, Canada
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Recurring problem
#34858 - 08/04/02 09:16 PM (142.161.40.95)
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I just created a new empire with an account that was affected earlier by the bug. I was in the middle of creating my starting 4 ARF platoons, when !presto! I was kicked out to the "you have no empire" screen. Apparently my CiC suffered spontaneous human combustion while setting up his army 
So the missing people is not just a one-time result of today's update...it appears to be a recurring glitch
As such, I don't think I'll play with my remaining (nearly) intact empire...just in case active playing contributes to whatever is happening.
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I kill $%!^.
And I enjoy the hell out of it.
--Ted Nugent
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KamikazeJohnson
Major
Reged: 01/01/02
Posts: 1391
Loc: WINTERpeg, MB, Canada
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Still more detail
#34860 - 08/04/02 09:35 PM (142.161.40.95)
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Ok...I've managed to reproduce the error (or at least one source of it)
I started a new empire
Login: Moose Murdoch
Empire: Glastonbury
Then I hired 111 soldiers to form my starting ARF platoons. The first 3 formed normally, but the fourth gave me the following error message after I named the unit:
Technical Information (for support personnel)
Error Type:
(0x80020009)
Exception occurred.
/create_platoon.asp, line 183
Session Variables:
EmpireID: 41466
PlayerID: 53350
BattleID: 0
UnitID: 0
Page:
GET /create_platoon.asp
Time:
Monday, August 05, 2002, 12:12:37 AM
I refreshed the appropriate frame, and noticed that the fourth unit had been formed, but I still had 28 rifles. So I bought 112 more soldiers, got the same error when I named the platoon. When I refreshed, I got the same error repeatedly, but apparently each refresh created a new platoon until I ran out of soldiers, then refreshed properly.
I switched to the map in order to refresh the entire screen, and when I switched back, my CiC was "NONE", and I got kicked out to the login screen. When I logged back in, I had no empire.
I hope this is useful in finding and fixing the bug 
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I kill $%!^.
And I enjoy the hell out of it.
--Ted Nugent
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darthkiller
Newbie
Reged: 07/30/02
Posts: 24
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Re: Disappearing people Admins, please help, loss of control
#34877 - 08/05/02 12:58 AM (24.245.32.236)
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I am also missing my CIC character. He has been replaced by a numbered soldier. I am now unable to build buildings and perform other functions. I do not get any error messages like the people above. Please help me get full control of my empire back. My user name is darthkiller. Thanks.
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KamikazeJohnson
Major
Reged: 01/01/02
Posts: 1391
Loc: WINTERpeg, MB, Canada
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MYSTERY SOLVED!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
#34881 - 08/05/02 01:43 AM (142.161.40.95)
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It appears this is what's been happening...
The latest update hides all foot soldiers except the CO of eachj platoon to save on server load. Since the CiC isn't a platoon CO by default, every CiC in an infantry platoon was "hidden" and so unclaimed.
So when you start a new empire, everything goes fine and dandy until you assign your CiC to a platoon, then he disappears and you have no claimed people and so no empire...
So if the Nev people simply tweak things so the CiC is automatically a platoon leader, that should fix this mess. And "resurrecting" the missing emperors might be possible by temporarily "unhiding" the hidden people.
whew! 
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I kill $%!^.
And I enjoy the hell out of it.
--Ted Nugent
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darthkiller
Newbie
Reged: 07/30/02
Posts: 24
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Re: Disappearing people Do not have my old CIC, but found a work around
#34916 - 08/05/02 07:42 AM (207.50.108.254)
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Ok, I panicked a little bit about losing my CIC but I found a way around it. You all probably already know this, but I was able to select the soldier and take control of my empire again using that soldier.
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Wayward_Son
Major
Reged: 07/05/02
Posts: 1287
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Re: Still more detail
#34933 - 08/05/02 10:17 AM (216.19.47.68)
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I looked at this error, and upon reading your post more carefully believe this is because you were creating infantry after your emperor had been deleted by our DB rearrangement Sunday night. I think this would have created some very unique errors like that which you experienced. Please e-mail Dante@neveron.com with your player login and emprie name and he will make sure you get access to your empire once again.
WS
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Immortallis
Newbie
Reged: 08/02/02
Posts: 13
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Re: MYSTERY SOLVED!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
#34964 - 08/05/02 03:08 PM (65.92.10.213)
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In the new update there is an error.
If you disband a unit you get back the srgt and only one soldier worth of equipment. As opposed to getting 28 soldiers worth of equipment back.
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KamikazeJohnson
Major
Reged: 01/01/02
Posts: 1391
Loc: WINTERpeg, MB, Canada
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Re: Still more detail
#34987 - 08/05/02 08:00 PM (142.161.40.95)
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Thanks, but that empire was less than a RL day old anyway, so no biggie...I restarted and I'm almost as far along now in my new empire, and I've recovered well enough with my others.
Nice to know there's some hope for the recently deceased tho, 
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I kill $%!^.
And I enjoy the hell out of it.
--Ted Nugent
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KitK
Lieutenant
Reged: 08/17/01
Posts: 414
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Re: Disappearing people
#35523 - 08/09/02 08:09 AM (216.239.5.155)
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About half my infantry disappeared and a few reasonably well trained vehicle personnel in the LOST CITY, including the CiC, got zapped while waiting for a new tank. I also could not access my captial zone, although, its population and commerce seemed to be intact. The zones came back by just giving it some time. A different claimed officer took control of the reins of power.
Having read the statements in the Bug area of the help I figured I'd have to chalk it up to earthquakes, assassinations and cult group suicide rituals. But if there is a way to get those soldiers back it would be cool if they were just hiding out on a little bender instead of dead.
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