Aciddog
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Military Maintenence Calculations
#57336 - 04/08/03 04:33 PM (12.82.67.184)
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1 SP(Support Point) is $500 nev-dollars/Nev-Day
Quick Table
Foot Infantry= SP*1
Motorized Infantry=SP*2
Jump Infantry=SP*3
Hover Vehicles=SP*tonnage/5
Wheeled Vehicles=SP*tonnage/10
Tracked Vehicles=SP*tonnage/20
Mechs=SP* tonnage/2
Towers are CF/25 SP
Foot Infantry(Each Platoon) Is 1 SP a Nev-Day
Motorized Infantry(Each Platoon) Is 2 SP a Nev-Day
Jump Infantry(Each Platoon) Is 3 SP a Nev-day
To find a mechs SP divide the tonnage of the mech By 2
Example a Locust is a 20 ton mech. 20 divided by 2 is 10. The mech will cost 10 SP or $5000 Nev-Dollars/Nev-Day
To find a hover vehicles SP divide the tonnage of the hover vehicle by 5
Example a Saracen Medium Hover Tank is a 35 ton vehicle. 35
divided by 5 is 7. The Saracen will cost 7 SP or $3500 Nev-Dollars/Nev-Day
To find a wheeled vehicles SP divide the tonnage of the vehicle by 10.
Example a packrat is a 20 ton vehicle. 20 divided by 10 is 2. The packrat will cost 2 SP or $1000 Nev-Dollars/Nev Day.
To find a tracked vehicles SP divide the tonnage of the vehicle by 20.
Example a scorpion tank is a 25 ton vehicle. 25 divded by 20 is 1.25. The scorpion will cost 1.25 SP or $625 Nev-Dollars/Nevday
Each soldier will Cost you $50 Nev-Dollars/Nevday
Multiply the end result by your empires maintenance rate Which is set between 75% and 225%.
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Cecil
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Re: Military Maintenence Calculations
#57351 - 04/08/03 04:33 PM (128.125.250.32)
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Does this apply to vehicles in the armory as well, or only commissioned vehicles?
I read somewhere that all empires get some number of SP's free or something like. What's that all about?
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Zat
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Re: Military Maintenence Calculations
#59023 - 04/27/03 04:34 PM (206.21.24.96)
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25k i think
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Sintares
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Re: Military Maintenence Calculations
#59033 - 04/27/03 05:49 PM (195.92.168.171)
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Vehicles in the armoury cost 0.01 SP/ton (according omt page)
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Stalker17
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Re: Military Maintenence Calculations
#59046 - 04/28/03 04:37 AM (68.159.0.240)
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yea, i think uncom'd vec SP is tonnage/100. (according to omt.asp calculator)
and you get 2500 "free" SP's (not 25000).
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Tigre
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Re: Military Maintenence Calculations
#59137 - 04/29/03 09:26 AM (12.47.79.2)
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The 2500 "free" SPs are not "free", that's just how many you can have before you start incurring the fabled "OMT" or "oversized military tax".
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Stalker17
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Re: Military Maintenence Calculations
#59186 - 04/29/03 04:38 PM (216.78.135.97)
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that's why "free" was in quotes.
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Warlord177
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Re: Military Maintenence Calculations
#69261 - 08/14/03 08:33 AM (24.94.152.90)
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Why are hover vehicles cheaper to maintain than wheeled vehicles?
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davion76
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Re: Military Maintenence Calculations
#69268 - 08/14/03 09:04 AM (12.219.245.197)
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They aren't. look again.
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Warlord177
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Re: Military Maintenence Calculations
#69341 - 08/14/03 07:16 PM (64.58.220.2)
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Okay, I see. Tracked vehicles are cheaper. Strange. 
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Khan_E_F
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Re: Military Maintenence Calculations
#69348 - 08/14/03 10:38 PM (203.56.233.9)
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Strange? Not really, track vehicles are robust and are workhorses. Wheeled vehicles are a bit more fragile, and as for hover. Well, If you think mantaining the advanced hover air skirts on a 35-50ton hover tank is cheap, think again.
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Warlord177
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Re: Military Maintenence Calculations
#69399 - 08/15/03 06:05 AM (24.94.152.90)
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Tracked vehicles are robust alright, but they're also a bear to maintain. Yeah, we do a lot of preventive care on our trucks in the light artillery, but I've spoken to the SP guys and they spend most of their time maintaining their tracks. I would've thought it would be (cheapest to most expensive) wheeled, tracked, hover.
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Khan_E_F
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Re: Military Maintenence Calculations
#69403 - 08/15/03 06:18 AM (131.181.127.33)
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Okay, think of it this way. Take your ordinary jeep. Then, place a few tons of armor, a giant Machine Gun Array or A huge rack or Short Range Missile Launchers or A Rack of Long Range Missile Launchers. The ability to have basic electronics for warfare as well has a good engine to carry 5 tons and still travel through terrain fast. Track vehicles, we have them today. Many are just stored in armories and when needed, put on a bit of oil, a bit of cleaing, power it up and you ready to go. Track vehicles are supposed to be hard to damage or malfunction unless some weapon hits it and hits it hard!
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Warlord177
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Re: Military Maintenence Calculations
#69460 - 08/15/03 09:59 AM (24.94.152.90)
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Perhaps, but that just hasn't been my experience (or the experience of the other soldiers I've talked to). I mean, an Avenger ("Jeep" with missiles and electronics) takes less maintenance than an Abrams or a Paladin. It may not be the way the game looks at it, but that's the reality of it.
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Mazer
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Re: Military Maintenence Calculations
#69470 - 08/15/03 10:09 AM (68.60.13.118)
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An Abrams is a much more complex machine than any jeep, that's why it is harder to maintain despite its tracks. You have to consider other factors such as vehicle weight. A 40 or 50 ton tracked vehicle will obviously cost more to maintain than a 5 ton jeep, more than even a 5 ton hovercraft.
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Warlord177
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Re: Military Maintenence Calculations
#69488 - 08/15/03 12:39 PM (24.94.152.90)
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So we need to compare wheeled vehicles vs. tracked vehicles of similar weight.
M113 APC (10 ton, tracked) vs. M36A1 Truck (6 ton, wheeled) or M246 Truck (22 ton, wheeled)
Again, I'm guessing the APC takes more to maintain than either truck. But, I just send the vehicles to the shop, I don't work there... 
Edited by Warlord177 (08/15/03 12:47 PM)
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bohmerov
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Re: Military Maintenence Calculations
[Re: Warlord177]
#104537 - 03/10/05 12:13 AM (146.163.215.158)
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Ok, after you hit 2500, you are stuck paying OMT regardless of your population size, or does population size matter at all? And if not, why does it seem to be factored into the calculation on the OMT calculator?
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Aciddog
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Re: Military Maintenence Calculations
[Re: bohmerov]
#104539 - 03/10/05 02:12 AM (24.31.12.75)
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ignore most of what is written here, this post is very very old the omt calculator is old as well and neither have been updated.
You no longeg get the "free" 2500 SP and are immedietly subject to receiveing omt if your SP for your units is more than generated by your population.
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bohmerov
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Re: Military Maintenence Calculations
[Re: Aciddog]
#104550 - 03/10/05 10:05 AM (146.163.215.158)
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so then how much SP does the population make? 1:1 with BV?
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Aciddog
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Re: Military Maintenence Calculations
[Re: bohmerov]
#104552 - 03/10/05 10:24 AM (24.31.12.75)
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i beleive its 100 Pop provides 1 SP.
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Toontje
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Re: Military Maintenence Calculations
[Re: Aciddog]
#104613 - 03/11/05 01:53 PM (84.24.165.226)
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1/100 sp/pop for over 250.000 pop IIRC, lower it is 50sp+1/x sp/pop, with x linear between 50 and 100. It's in the help files anyway.
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satandole666
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Re: Military Maintenence Calculations
[Re: Toontje]
#113674 - 09/11/05 08:17 PM (68.252.35.115)
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Does anyone have the most recent formula? I know this one is off, so I'm not even going to share the ridiculous results it gives me. I'm trying to do some planning and would like to avoid OMT. Thanks.
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galador
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Re: Military Maintenence Calculations
[Re: Aciddog]
#117195 - 10/21/05 08:32 AM (135.196.60.245)
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omt is a good thing it shows you have a good empire
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SubZero
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Re: Military Maintenence Calculations
[Re: galador]
#117214 - 10/21/05 09:59 AM (80.219.2.128)
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I use the formula in the help files and it works pretty well.
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