JStallion
03/07/04 08:59 PM
69.47.164.192
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Which mech has the most Battle Value? I only have the technical readout 3067 which shows the Marauder IIC w/ the most at 2,991. I'm curious as to which mech(s) have more. Daishi perhaps?
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SSFSX17
03/08/04 05:21 AM
128.195.93.199
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Battle Value is not directly related to how good a 'mech really is, so the Daishi won't necessarily have a high one. Some guy from a while back had managed to design a mech with ridiculously high BV that couldn't exactly trade very much fire with other 'mechs in a similar mech.
Lousy good-for-nothing mortals. Can't live with 'em, can't live without 'em.
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JStallion
03/08/04 07:55 PM
69.47.164.192
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and im also wondering why theres a 80 or 90 (at least less than 100, dont feel like going and looking it up) ton marauder IIC in the 3055 TRO yet in the 3067 record sheets theres a 100 ton one, typo on the names or 2 diff mechs w/ same name? all the other maruaders have variants or theyre marauder IIc 2, Marauder IIC 3 etc. but not 2 of the same name
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Cray
03/09/04 07:44 AM
147.160.1.5
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There's been "highest BV" design challenges from time to time on most BT forums. I can't find any here, but let me see what I can dig up on rec.games.mecha.
From a thread made in October of 2000. The highest BV is at the end and cracks 7600.
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This is the highest BV mech I could manage:
"Beaver"
BV: 4,465
Cost: 33,169,826
Power Plant: 380 XL
Cruising Speed: 43
Maximum Speed: 64.5
Jump Jets: none
Armament:
42 AMSs
5 ER Large Lasers
Technology Base: - Clan - Level 2
Equipment Mass
Internal Structure: 9.5
Engine: 380 XL 20.5
Walking MP: 4
Running MP: 6
Jumping MP: 0
Heat Sinks: 10(20) - Double 0
Gyro: 4
Cockpit: 3
Armor Factor: 272 17
Internal Armor
Structure Value
Head 3 9
Center Torso 30 40
Center Torso(rear) 13
R/L Torso 20 28
R/L Torso(rear) 8
R/L Arm 16 30
R/L Leg 20 39
Weapons and Ammo Location Critical Tonnage
8x AMS LA 1 0.5
2x ER Large Laser LA 1 4
10x AMS LT 1 0.5
2x AMS LL 1 0.5
2x AMS RL 1 0.5
10x AMS RT 1 0.5
8x AMS RA 1 0.5
2x ER Large Laser RA 1 4
2x AMS CT 1 0.5
ER Large Laser H 1 4
Notice that this mech is completely and utterly pointless. It doesn't have
any ammo at all for it's 42 AMS systems.. puting in a couple of tons in the
arms drops 80 from the BV. Plus it overheats hugely.. if I could get around
that problem, I could probably manage a higher BV mech. AMS is simply the
highest BV per ton, and ER larges seem to be the highest BV per crit.. so I
filled up on AMS, then started replacing AMS with ERLL until I ran out of
tonnage..
I'm sure I could do better at L3.. let's see..
actually, not by much. Seems like 4,500 BV is just about the upper limit,
but I'm sure someone can prove me wrong..
I tried a quick Gausszilla, and it only came out to half that.
--
NEil (phillips@webzone.net.au)
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From: Remora2 (remora2@aol.com)
This is one I came up with a while ago. It was meant to be used by the big bad
archvillain. Unfortunately, the campaing never got far enough for me to turn
it loose. I'm sure the players were devastated.
Ken
BattleMech Technical Readout
Type/Model: Deliverer Primary
Tech: Clan / 3025
Config: Biped BattleMech
Rules: Level 2, Standard design
Mass: 100 tons
Chassis: Endo Steel
Power Plant: 300 XL Fusion
Walking Speed: 32.4 km/h
Maximum Speed: 54.0 km/h
Jump Jets: 3 Standard Jump Jets
Jump Capacity: 90 meters
Armor Type: Standard
Armament:
2 Gauss Rifles
2 ER PPCs
Manufacturer: (Unknown)
Location: (Unknown)
Communications System: (Unknown)
Targeting & Tracking System: (Unknown)
--------------------------------------------------------
Type/Model: Deliverer Primary
Mass: 100 tons
Equipment: Crits Mass
Int. Struct.: 152 pts Endo Steel 7 5.00
(Endo Steel Loc: 2 LT, 2 RT, 1 CT, 1 LL, 1 RL)
Engine: 300 XL 10 9.50
Walking MP: 3
Running MP: 5
Jumping MP: 3
Heat Sinks: 16 Double [32] 8 6.00
(Heat Sink Loc: 1 LA, 1 RA, 2 RT)
Gyro: 4 3.00
Cockpit, Life Supt.: 5 3.00
Actuators: L: Sh+UA R: Sh+UA 12 .00
Armor Factor: 307 pts Standard 0 19.50
Internal Armor
Structure Value
Head: 3 9
Center Torso: 31 46
Center Torso (Rear): 16
L/R Side Torso: 21 32/32
L/R Side Torso (Rear): 10/10
L/R Arm: 17 34/34
L/R Leg: 21 42/42
Weapons and Equipment Loc Heat Ammo Crits Mass
--------------------------------------------------------
1 Gauss Rifle RA 1 32 10 16.00
(Ammo Locations: 2 LA, 2 RA)
1 Gauss Rifle LA 1 6 12.00
2 ER PPCs RT 30 4 12.00
1 Targeting Computer LT 8 8.00
3 Standard Jump Jets: 3 6.00
(Jump Jet Loc: 1 CT, 1 LL, 1 RL)
--------------------------------------------------------
TOTALS: 32 77 100.00
Crits & Tons Left: 1 .00
Calculated Factors:
Total Cost: 23,462,000 C-Bills
Battle Value: 3,524
Cost per BV: 6,657.78
Weapon Value: 6,067 / 6,067 (Ratio = 1.72 / 1.72)
Damage Factors: SRDmg = 58; MRDmg = 50; LRDmg = 36
BattleForce2: MP: 3J, Armor/Structure: 8/6
Damage PB/M/L: 8/7/7, Overheat: 0
Class: MA; Point Value: 35
************************************************
Charles Borner <rgm1@chicagonet.net> wrote:
BattleMech Technical Readout
Type/Model: Ridiculous RD1U
Tech: Clan / 3060
Config: Biped BattleMech
Rules: Level 3, Custom design
Mass: 100 tons
Chassis: Composite
Power Plant: 300 Compact Fusion
Walking Speed: 32.4 km/h
Maximum Speed: 54.0 km/h
Jump Jets: None
Jump Capacity: 0 meters
Armor Type: Standard
Armament:
51 Anti-Missile Systems
2 ER PPCs
1 Medium Pulse Laser
Manufacturer: (Unknown)
Location: (Unknown)
Communications System: (Unknown)
Targeting & Tracking System: (Unknown)
--------------------------------------------------------
Type/Model: Ridiculous RD1U
Mass: 100 tons
Equipment: Crits Mass
Int. Struct.: 152 pts Composite 0 5.00
Engine: 300 Compact 3 28.50
Walking MP: 3
Running MP: 5
Jumping MP: 0
Heat Sinks: 10 Double [20] 0 .00
Compact Gyro: 2 4.50
Small Cockpit, Life Supt., Sensors: 4 2.00
Actuators: L: Sh+UA R: Sh+UA 12 .00
Armor Factor: 307 pts Standard 0 19.50
Internal Armor
Structure Value
Head: 3 9
Center Torso: 31 46
Center Torso (Rear): 16
L/R Side Torso: 21 32/32
L/R Side Torso (Rear): 10/10
L/R Arm: 17 34/34
L/R Leg: 21 42/42
Weapons and Equipment Loc Heat Ammo Crits Mass
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10 Anti-Missile Systems RA 10 24 11 6.00
(Ammo Locations: 1 RL)
10 Anti-Missile Systems LA 10 10 5.00
12 Anti-Missile Systems RT 12 12 6.00
12 Anti-Missile Systems LT 12 12 6.00
7 Anti-Missile Systems CT 7 7 3.50
1 ER PPC HD 15 2 6.00
1 ER PPC LL 15 2 6.00
1 Medium Pulse Laser RL 4 1 2.00
--------------------------------------------------------
TOTALS: 85 78 100.00
Crits & Tons Left: 0 .00
Calculated Factors:
Total Cost: 25,484,000 C-Bills
Battle Value: 4,772
Cost per BV: 5,340.32
Weapon Value: 963 / 963 (Ratio = .20 / .20)
Damage Factors: SRDmg = 21; MRDmg = 15; LRDmg = 8
BattleForce2: MP: 3, Armor/Structure: 8/8
Damage PB/M/L: 8/1/1, Overheat: 4
Class: MA; Point Value: 48
*****************************************************
From: Jonathan Schattke (wizwom@ripco.com)
BattleMech Technical Readout
Type/Model: MunchkLAM
Tech: Clan / 3025
Config: Land Air BattleMech
Rules: Level 3, Standard design
Mass: 50 tons
Chassis: Endo Steel
Power Plant: 350 XXL Fusion
Walking Speed: 75.6 km/h
Maximum Speed: 118.8 km/h
Jump Jets: 7 Standard Jump Jets
Jump Capacity: 210 meters
Armor Type: Ferro-Fibrous
Armament:
4 ER Medium Lasers
1 ER PPC
Manufacturer: (Unknown)
Location: (Unknown)
Communications System: (Unknown)
Targeting & Tracking System: (Unknown)
--------------------------------------------------------
Type/Model: MunchkLAM
Mass: 50 tons
Construction Options: Fractional Accounting
Equipment: Crits Mass
Int. Struct.: 83 pts Endo Steel 7 2.50
(Endo Steel Loc: 2 LT, 2 RT, 1 LL, 2 RL)
Engine: 350 XXL 14 9.84
Walking MP: 7
Running MP: 11
Jumping MP: 7 [21]
Heat Sinks: 14 Double [28] 0 4.00
XL Gyro: 6 2.00
Cockpit, Life Supt.: 5 3.00
Actuators: L: Sh+UA+LA+H R: Sh+UA+LA+H 16 .00
Armor Factor: 156 pts Ferro-Fibrous 7 8.12
(Armor Crit Loc: 4 LA, 3 RA)
Internal Armor
Structure Value
Head: 3 9
Center Torso: 16 22
Center Torso (Rear): 7
L/R Side Torso: 12 16/16
L/R Side Torso (Rear): 6/6
L/R Arm: 8 15/15
L/R Leg: 12 22/22
Weapons and Equipment Loc Heat Ammo Crits Mass
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1 ER Medium Laser RA 5 1 1.00
1 ER Medium Laser LA 5 1 1.00
1 ER Medium Laser RT 5 1 1.00
1 ER PPC LT 15 2 6.00
1 ER Medium Laser HD 5 1 1.00
1 Targeting Computer RT 2 2.00
7 Standard Jump Jets: 7 3.50
(Jump Jet Loc: 4 LT, 3 RT)
LAM Conversion Equipment: 0 5.00
--------------------------------------------------------
TOTALS: 35 70 50.00
Crits & Tons Left: 8 .00
Calculated Factors:
Total Cost: 70,869,050 C-Bills
Battle Value: 5,300
Cost per BV: 13,371.52
Weapon Value: 2,219 / 2,219 (Ratio = .42 / .42)
Damage Factors: SRDmg = 34; MRDmg = 25; LRDmg = 10
BattleForce2: MP: 7J, Armor/Structure: 4/2
Damage PB/M/L: 4/3/1, Overheat: 2
Class: MM; Point Value: 53
*************************************************
From: Michael Duke (mduke@paradise.net.nz)
MunchLAM II = BV 5996
BattleMech Technical Readout
Type/Model: MunchLAM II
Tech: Mixed Tech / 3025
Config: Land Air BattleMech
Rules: Level 3, Standard design
Mass: 50 tons
Chassis: Endo Steel (IS)
Power Plant: 250 XXL Fusion (C)
Walking Speed: 54.0 km/h
Maximum Speed: 86.4 km/h
Jump Jets: 5 Standard Jump Jets
Jump Capacity: 150 meters
Armor Type: Ferro-Fibrous
Armament:
2 ER PPCs (C)
Manufacturer: (Unknown)
Location: (Unknown)
Communications System: (Unknown)
Targeting & Tracking System: (Unknown)
--------------------------------------------------------
Type/Model: MunchLAM II
Mass: 50 tons
Construction Options: Fractional Accounting
Equipment: Crits Mass
Int. Struct.: 83 pts Endo Steel (IS) 14 2.50
(Endo Steel Loc: 4 LA, 4 RA, 3 LT, 2 RT, 1 CT)
Engine: 250 XXL 14 4.17
Walking MP: 5
Running MP: 8
Jumping MP: 5 [15]
Heat Sinks: 15 Double (C) [30] 10 5.00
(Heat Sink Loc: 1 LA, 1 LT, 1 RT, 1 LL, 1 RL)
Compact Gyro: 2 4.50
Dual Cockpit (MW), Life Supt.: 6 4.00
Actuators: L: Sh+UA R: Sh+UA 12 .00
Armor Factor: 140 (C) 7 7.29
(Armor Crit Loc: 2 LA, 3 RA, 2 LT)
Internal Armor
Structure Value
Head: 3 9
Center Torso: 16 19
Center Torso (Rear): 6
L/R Side Torso: 12 15/15
L/R Side Torso (Rear): 5/5
L/R Arm: 8 13/13
L/R Leg: 12 20/20
Weapons and Equipment Loc Heat Ammo Crits Mass
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1 ER PPC (C) RA 15 2 6.00
1 ER PPC (C) LA 15 2 6.00
1 Targeting Computer (C)RT 3 3.00
5 Standard Jump Jets: 5 2.50
(Jump Jet Loc: 1 LT, 1 RT, 3 CT)
LAM Conversion Equipment: 0 5.00
--------------------------------------------------------
TOTALS: 30 77 50.00
Crits & Tons Left: 1 .00
Calculated Factors:
Total Cost: 53,438,350 C-Bills
Battle Value: 5,996
Cost per BV: 8,912.33
Weapon Value: 1,863 / 1,863 (Ratio = .31 / .31)
Damage Factors: SRDmg = 29; MRDmg = 25; LRDmg = 18
BattleForce2: MP: 5J, Armor/Structure: 4/2
Damage PB/M/L: 4/3/3, Overheat: 0
Class: MM; Point Value: 60
***************************************************
From: Jonathan Schattke (wizwom@ripco.com)
BattleMech Technical Readout
Type/Model: MunchkLAM F
Tech: Mixed Tech / 3060
Config: Land Air BattleMech
Rules: Level 3, Custom design
Mass: 50 tons
Chassis: Composite (IS)
Power Plant: 300 XXL Fusion (C)
Walking Speed: 64.8 km/h
Maximum Speed: 118.8 km/h
Jump Jets: 9 Improved Jump Jets
Jump Capacity: 270 meters
Armor Type: Standard
Armament:
8 ER Medium Lasers (C)
Manufacturer: (Unknown)
Location: (Unknown)
Communications System: (Unknown)
Targeting & Tracking System: (Unknown)
--------------------------------------------------------
Type/Model: MunchkLAM F
Mass: 50 tons
Construction Options: Fractional Accounting
Equipment: Crits Mass
Int. Struct.: 83 pts Composite (IS) 0 2.50
Engine: 300 XXL 14 6.34
Walking MP: 6 [7]
Running MP: 9 [11]
Jumping MP: 9 [27]
Heat Sinks: 13 Double (C) [26] 2 3.00
(Heat Sink Loc: 1 LT)
Gyro: 4 3.00
Dual Cockpit (MW), Life Supt.: 6 4.00
Triple Strength Myomer (IS): 6 .00
Actuators: L: Sh+UA+LA+H R: Sh+UA+LA+H 16 .00
Armor Factor: 114 (IS) 0 7.12
Internal Armor
Structure Value
Head: 3 9
Center Torso: 16 14
Center Torso (Rear): 5
L/R Side Torso: 12 12/12
L/R Side Torso (Rear): 4/4
L/R Arm: 8 11/11
L/R Leg: 12 16/16
Weapons and Equipment Loc Heat Ammo Crits Mass
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4 ER Medium Lasers (C) RA 20 4 4.00
4 ER Medium Lasers (C) LA 20 4 4.00
1 Targeting Computer (C)RT 2 2.00
9 Improved Jump Jets: 18 9.00
(Jump Jet Loc: 3 LT, 3 RT, 1 CT, 1 LL, 1 RL)
LAM Conversion Equipment: 0 5.00
--------------------------------------------------------
TOTALS: 40 76 50.00
Crits & Tons Left: 2 .00
Calculated Factors:
Total Cost: 66,208,275 C-Bills
Battle Value: 7,698
Cost per BV: 8,600.71
Weapon Value: 1,726 / 1,726 (Ratio = .22 / .22)
Damage Factors: SRDmg = 37; MRDmg = 25; LRDmg = 3
BattleForce2: MP: 6J, Armor/Structure: 3/2
Damage PB/M/L: 4/3/-, Overheat: 3
Class: MM; Point Value: 77
*****************************************
Mike Miller, Materials Engineer
Disclaimer: Anything stated in this post is unofficial and non-canon unless directly quoted from a published book. Random internet musings of a BattleTech writer are not canon.
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tgsofgc
03/10/04 05:01 AM
67.4.192.19
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Ah whoever would have guessed a mixtech, fractionally accounted, xxl engined, improved jump jet using LAM would be at the top of the scale. 
I find that 'pinpoint' accuracy during a bombing run increases proportionally with the amount of munitions used.
-Commander Nathaniel Klepper,
Avanti's Angels, 3058
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Toontje
03/10/04 11:04 AM
217.123.31.80
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I liked the most negative BV 'mech discussion with the intro of BV, never used em of cause, but that was before the minimum defensive value was 0... filled with 1/2 tons MG ammo. Cannot recall the minimum archieved.
Rather to blow up, then.
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Toontje
03/14/04 03:00 PM
217.123.31.80
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From the lists in Combat Operations, yes it is at 3043. Turkina B. If there are newer after that publication, the record may have changed.
Rather to blow up, then.
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