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Katrar
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Re: help tickets part 3 [Re: NeverSayNever]
      #165421 - 05/15/12 07:19 PM (24.17.137.174)

ROFL the very thought that SM has spent 1 hour a week on bug tickets, let alone 60+ is enough laughs to fill a **** hot air balloon.

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Re: help tickets part 3 [Re: Katrar]
      #165422 - 05/15/12 07:44 PM (92.228.135.171)

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ROFL the very thought that SM has spent 1 hour a week on bug tickets, let alone 60+ is enough laughs to fill a **** hot air balloon.





Why spend time answering bug / help tickets, many of them probably filled with angry rants, if there's little to no (financial) incentive?


Every bug found and fixed should help reduce the amount of related bug tickets = development / admin time well spent / invested into polishing the game.


Every free bug ticket answered for free simply adds to your expenses.


Simply make admin want to answer / process help tickets as soon as possible via offering a financial incentive and both parties involved should get what they want ...


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Katrar
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Re: help tickets part 3 [Re: NeverSayNever]
      #165423 - 05/15/12 07:47 PM (24.17.137.174)

lol I'm not even sure how to respond to this. Someone else's turn.

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Re: help tickets part 3 [Re: Katrar]
      #165424 - 05/15/12 08:37 PM (50.137.208.91)

respond with the block button.

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Re: help tickets part 3 [Re: Torq]
      #165429 - 05/15/12 10:44 PM (99.26.68.88)

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Yes, that is worse Kato.

The time it took you to write out all your 'bullshit' nonsense, you most assuredly could have written updates. Soemthing that everyone has been screaming for...... how long?

All I can say to you now SM is LMFAO




lol hes been doin some updates on neveron's facebook


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Re: help tickets part 3 [Re: Rallis]
      #165430 - 05/15/12 11:28 PM (50.137.208.91)

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lol hes been doin some updates on neveron's facebook




yea, because we need to know when the servers aren't working right, who cares how the game works.

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Re: help tickets part 3 [Re: KJI_3x6]
      #165455 - 05/18/12 08:10 PM (108.48.75.190)

I think NSN is messing with me. I can't believe for a moment that anyone really believes this is a viable free game.

Beyond that simple point, here's the real one: Once you start donating and receive premium benefits (purchased via DP), you have a reasonable expectation that the game should function. All of those "FREE" markings mean nothing. Randy and WWS assumed it provided a legal buffer, when in fact it doesn't. There's some interesting stories from the old days and conversations about it. Luckily for SM, his product is complete crap. He can actually provide a solid defense that customers willingly, and knowingly, paid for complete crap.

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Re: help tickets part 3 [Re: Tzu_Theory]
      #165458 - 05/18/12 10:46 PM (70.173.10.66)

So this is a game that you cannt get anywhere without donating? I said that a long while back, but got told I didnt know what I was talking about.
Would explain why most people want to shut down any chance of new players actually being a threat to the old timers without spending a few hundred to thousands of dollars.

As for sm posting on facebook and twitter. Not everyone wants to deal with those programs. He needs to either put the link back in on nev for the updates, or set up a section on the server for the updates. I hate to think one of the most hacked programs in the net is the primary source of info on whats going on in nev.


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Re: help tickets part 3 [Re: ghostrider]
      #165460 - 05/19/12 03:28 PM (173.78.122.11)

He probably accidentally deleted it and can't figure out how to bring it back...

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Katrar
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Re: help tickets part 3 [Re: Gunner]
      #165461 - 05/19/12 05:30 PM (24.17.137.174)

@ghostrider

Would you get off the "vets only want to make it hard for people to compete with them" broken record already, it has been explained to you over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over how wrong you are. You've had plenty of "vets" suggesting changes that would in fact harm them, in hopes of helping noobs. Your anti vet crusade is just as bad as SM's anti community crusade. Bottom line is, you are 100% wrong in your... I hesitate to call it "understanding"... of this community.

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Re: help tickets part 3 [Re: Katrar]
      #165464 - 05/19/12 09:55 PM (70.173.10.66)

Of course im wrong. I dont agree with those people that think their way is the ONLY way to play. Just because things were status quo for years, doesnt mean its right or fun for all.

The so called anti-longtimers campaign isnt the longtimers are evil campaign like you believe it is. More then a few people dont follow your beliefs of what is good and bad about the old game. Most wont try to even say anything because they dont want to get into it with you and the others.

I am not afraid to say what is see/feel is wrong with the game.
Just because you and some others dont like the fact that my view isnt as unique as you would want to believe.

Did your input into the other games make those games great? Or did they have the same flaws as nev? Seriously. You had the opportunity to stop the bad things on several games, so why isnt nev dead from the popularity of them? It seems they all had issues that caused people to abandon them.

So far, I havent seen many new people state that its fun to get gb'ed because they stepped on someones toes. Havent seen them say its good that the opponent can com up 2 or more levels to avoid losing a war they started, or get help avoiding a loss.

I was asked by a few people to let it rest a while. Now I see the whole set of people that think they know everything that makes a game fun, slinging insults at everyone that doesnt agree with them.
More then a few people stopped posting because of this garbage.

I KNOW not everyone agrees with me. I know SOME people think the old ways are the best. They have their reasons. Im saying that what is fun for you isnt fun for others. To keep the game fun for all, some of those things have to go, such as uber mechs. Yes almost everyone agrees they need to be gone. Before the big outcry, it was fun dropping a light mech on a level 2/3 that could wipe out a normal assault lance in a level 6. Oh wait, that was the person that was using the mech, not the people they continued to hit constantly. Sure, it never happened. I dont know what im talking about.

Suggest things that would hurt their empires. Sure. Unit caps are good. Getting rid of neg gunned units, well thats not gonna do anything but strip the people who have them of their main defense. Oh wait, thats what tenting and hd only storage zones were for. Now that most eveyone has done that defense, now it has to go because those few people are finding it expensive and costly in terms of losing their mechs on hd's. Wasnt an issue when only a certain few people had it. Now the status quo has shifted to making it costly to war. I said that years ago, but it didnt matter then because there was still lots of easy targets.


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Re: help tickets part 3 [Re: ghostrider]
      #165465 - 05/19/12 11:27 PM (24.17.137.174)

Right.

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Re: help tickets part 3 [Re: Katrar]
      #165467 - 05/20/12 05:04 AM (76.114.40.214)

all I seen was something about oldtimers and I wanted to clarify, there are currently 12 oldtimers and 7 not new but not old players currently.

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Re: help tickets part 3 [Re: GwB]
      #165470 - 05/20/12 03:28 PM (99.26.68.88)

power corrupts.

absolute power corrupts absolutely.


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Re: help tickets part 3 [Re: Rallis]
      #165473 - 05/20/12 08:18 PM (75.148.8.253)

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As for sm posting on facebook and twitter. Not everyone wants to deal with those programs. He needs to either put the link back in on nev for the updates, or set up a section on the server for the updates. I hate to think one of the most hacked programs in the net is the primary source of info on whats going on in nev.




To clarify a few points:

The use of facebook and twitter are to communicate with the player base when the actual servers are not able to connect with the internet. Point being that posting an update that the servers are offline, on the actual servers that are OFFLINE seems a little silly

Additionally, facebook and twitter are not programs. The Neveron facebook 'page' is simple a website that you can visit, view it, read the latest updates, and then close the website. In order to post comments on that page, then you might need a facebook account.

The twitter page is a similar option, that players can actually 'sign up' for alerts to their cell phones, via the twitter network

So if you try to log into Neveron and it 'seems' offline...you can then go to the Neveron facebook page, where I will post an update once Im aware of it and working on correcting the issue(s)

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Re: help tickets part 3 [Re: ShadowMasterCM]
      #165474 - 05/20/12 09:11 PM (24.19.129.178)

give up trying to explain this stuff sm, it is folly.

there are always people that cannot be pleased, or say they can but only with unattainable end results.

the people that are left in nev that are vocal are mostly these people - their response to this post are going to deny it, but deep down they know who they are.

so whine on people - bitc* about how nez sucks, and continue to play (who cares if you donate- i know i don't) this game is not going to be great again. not without Severe overhauls - the least of which would be a reset...

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Re: help tickets part 3 [Re: Toscotto]
      #165476 - 05/20/12 10:05 PM (24.17.137.174)

My response to this post is, oh hey, my demonhunter just hit level 17, I can equip my yellow hand crossbows now.

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Re: help tickets part 3 [Re: ShadowMasterCM]
      #165745 - 06/14/12 10:48 AM (128.190.125.2)

You don't volunteer anything, SM. You are the owner of the game. This is not volunteer work, especially if you want it to be financially viable. Stop using argument fallacies to engender support.

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Re: help tickets part 3 [Re: Tzu_Theory]
      #165750 - 06/14/12 07:51 PM (50.137.208.91)

i think i am going to log into my empires for the first time in a month.

way to keep us engaged sm.


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