Dag
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Use Updates or Sarna ->Neveron News for game change announcements
#164434 - 02/23/12 03:37 AM (91.42.116.230)
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I'm sick of hunting in the forum for "official" replys from the game admin to player threads/questions.
There was a time when Neveron had it's own "update page" and everyone looked there for latest, greates and important news. I understand that the system is outdated and crap. And that we use sarna Neveron News section for official statements.
THEN USE IT !!!
Why arn't there Posts in Neveron News that inform us that:
a) Range 2/Range 3 TWR design is removed from the game
(and an official statement how R2/R3 TWRs work. Can they piloted shoot range 2 or NOT ?)
b) That training costs got halfed
c) That mechs are no longer upgradeable
d) That small empire subsodding what ever got raise ???
I don't like to find these changes on accident and I really really don't like to read every Neveron thread. I simply don't have the time and mood to read all the junk from ppl I don't like anyway.
So PLEASE instead off replying to player threads and justifying and accusing and wth ever...
USE THE TOOL you announced to use for the stuff you do and let your playerbase know WHAT IS GOING ON.
PS: And please link the sarna link on the Neveron Update page to sarna: Neveron News and not that outdated post about the upcoming codefest.
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buc
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Re: Use Updates or Sarna ->Neveron News for game change announcements
[Re: Dag]
#164443 - 02/23/12 01:22 PM (122.57.193.15)
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I support this request! I've been asking for details about stuff (like battle checks) and I get replys like, "it's basic". We really need a place to read all the changes.
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Phred
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Re: Use Updates or Sarna ->Neveron News for game change announcements
[Re: buc]
#164444 - 02/23/12 01:35 PM (161.184.189.112)
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As I have said, documentation.
This is what happens when you ignore that. In two months when he gets around to it, he will have forgotten 3/4 of the stuff he did.
Moving forward from here without documentation is a crap shoot at best.
Speaking of which, is he working on the game today? Intermittent service. I just want to check on my 35 noob empires and see how the training is coming. All it takes on the main page is "Maintenance today". It took me less than 3 seconds to type that.
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mattbuck
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Re: Use Updates or Sarna ->Neveron News for game change announcements
[Re: Phred]
#164449 - 02/23/12 03:18 PM (128.243.253.104)
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35 empires? You're only meant to have 5. Naughty naughty.
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dieaready
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Re: Use Updates or Sarna ->Neveron News for game change announcements
[Re: mattbuck]
#164452 - 02/23/12 04:48 PM (60.241.43.86)
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Maybe SM should use something like twitter to leave short updates on what he is doing. Even something like "whoops, tripped over the powercord again", or "hamsters ran out of food" is helpful...
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Hythos
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Re: Use Updates or Sarna ->Neveron News for game change announcements
[Re: dieaready]
#164453 - 02/23/12 04:51 PM (137.78.94.87)
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TWit-ter???
Glad to know it's not my work's network admins blocking Nev.com  I was beginning to get 
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buc
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Re: Use Updates or Sarna ->Neveron News for game change announcements
[Re: mattbuck]
#164456 - 02/23/12 05:44 PM (210.86.1.168)
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35 empires? You're only meant to have 5. Naughty naughty.
The last update I can find says that rule is no long in place.
Quote:
5 Empire Rule: You can now have / keep more than 5 empires legally
Level 7+ Rule You can now have as many empires above level 7 as you want
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mattbuck
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Re: Use Updates or Sarna ->Neveron News for game change announcements
[Re: buc]
#164457 - 02/23/12 06:14 PM (128.243.253.104)
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Ah yes, that was taken back, but not announced. I think it may be on forums... somewhere.
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Toten
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Re: Use Updates or Sarna ->Neveron News for game change announcements
[Re: dieaready]
#164458 - 02/23/12 09:01 PM (118.208.186.229)
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Maybe SM should use something like twitter to leave short updates
As Dag stated above, Neveron contains an updates section and Sarna has a Neveron News section. More than able means of communication.
If Twitter were to be used as a form of communication in the future any posting MUST also be posted in the Neveron updates section. People who don't use Twitter nor Facebook should never be at a disadvantage.
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ghostrider
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Re: Use Updates or Sarna ->Neveron News for game change announcements
[Re: Toten]
#164463 - 02/24/12 12:05 AM (70.173.25.223)
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yeah. not all of us use those hacked programs like twitter or facebook. Maybe just keep it in the update section of the game, but maybe move it to the servers? Or maybe even putting it in public mail for the admin empires?
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buc
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Re: Use Updates or Sarna ->Neveron News for game change announcements
[Re: mattbuck]
#164468 - 02/24/12 02:42 AM (122.57.193.15)
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Ah yes, that was taken back, but not announced. I think it may be on forums... somewhere.
IMO, if a rule isn't announced, it doesn't exist. Until he changes his mind again, then anyone with more than 5 emps will be in trouble
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mattbuck
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Re: Use Updates or Sarna ->Neveron News for game change announcements
[Re: buc]
#164473 - 02/24/12 07:26 AM (128.243.253.104)
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Login registration was added back at the same time, so it should stop people...
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ShadowMasterCM
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Re: Use Updates or Sarna ->Neveron News for game change announcements
[Re: mattbuck]
#164519 - 02/26/12 11:14 PM (24.103.210.226)
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to clarify: the 5 emp max/ 1 L7+/ registration removal...was part of a package deal...that means that building degrade and lower unit caps need to be added to accomplish the other three items.
the original update will be modified to clarify this
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Alexander
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Re: Use Updates or Sarna ->Neveron News for game change announcements
[Re: ShadowMasterCM]
#164520 - 02/27/12 12:05 AM (216.108.164.243)
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SM, you goof, why don't you try and do one of the many things you have promised/said/farted, I dont care, your full of crap. WHERE ARE OUR CODEFEST UPDATES?
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cbtgod
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Re: Use Updates or Sarna ->Neveron News for game change announcements
[Re: Alexander]
#164524 - 02/27/12 04:50 AM (72.77.197.22)
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cant post an update when almost all of it has issues? lmao l8rs DABOSS
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Rodon
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Re: Use Updates or Sarna ->Neveron News for game change announcements
[Re: cbtgod]
#164525 - 02/27/12 06:12 AM (68.47.52.133)
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Building degrades? Why bother when I am having to burn hundreds of millions worth of cities every day? None of these brilliant ideas work. Despite having maximum training in my small emps I have two skill ups for every one that skills down. I don't even bother looking at training results in my big emps. Too depressing.
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Rodon
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Re: Use Updates or Sarna ->Neveron News for game change announcements
[Re: Rodon]
#164526 - 02/27/12 06:14 AM (68.47.52.133)
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P.S. Deal? What deal you oaf? You discussed none of this BS with anyone I know of, except maybe Randy.
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KJI_3x6
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Re: Use Updates or Sarna ->Neveron News for game change announcements
[Re: Rodon]
#164532 - 02/27/12 11:53 AM (76.17.189.42)
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so you implemented 3 systems that are reliant on each other even though each one has very little, if anything to do with one another. i know nothing about coding, but i know that that is absolutely RETARDED.
welcome back to the bandaids holding on bandaids approach we have all come to expect here on neveron, the life sucking parasite we can't seem to shake.
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buc
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Re: Use Updates or Sarna ->Neveron News for game change announcements
[Re: KJI_3x6]
#164536 - 02/27/12 12:31 PM (122.57.193.15)
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What did SM say? Can someone please interpret for me cause I must be too stupid to understand. Did he change his mind already?
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KJI_3x6
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Re: Use Updates or Sarna ->Neveron News for game change announcements
[Re: buc]
#164537 - 02/27/12 12:46 PM (76.17.189.42)
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he said that to remove the empire caps and the registration thing(active x i believe) we have to turn on building degradation.
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Rodon
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Re: Use Updates or Sarna ->Neveron News for game change announcements
[Re: KJI_3x6]
#164539 - 02/27/12 01:17 PM (70.147.86.43)
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Yeah, well I have a very nice bridge I'd like to sell you. If you buy this from him, then you REALLY need this bridge.
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Catacomb
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Re: Use Updates or Sarna ->Neveron News for game change announcements
[Re: Rodon]
#164614 - 03/03/12 08:53 AM (66.191.91.45)
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so you implemented 3 systems that are reliant on each other even though each one has very little, if anything to do with one another. i know nothing about coding, but i know that that is absolutely RETARDED.
welcome back to the bandaids holding on bandaids approach we have all come to expect here on neveron, the life sucking parasite we can't seem to shake.
Um... I'm a noob, and as such maybe I don't know anything, but I think the whole idea of building degradation is to discourage people from farming a bunch of accounts that they barely play. The point of 5 empires/1 L7+ empire per person is also that you don't want people to make a million accounts that they don't actively play just to farm money for a real empire.
So, by adding up 1+1 in my head, I think the reason why he said they were a package deal is because the 5 empire limit and 1 L7+ limit won't be needed when building degradation is up and running because all 3 of those systems are designed to stop the exact same thing. Again, though, I'm a noob, so maybe I don't understand the real issue here.
Edited by Catacomb (03/03/12 08:56 AM)
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Protege
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Re: Use Updates or Sarna ->Neveron News for game change announcements
[Re: Catacomb]
#164618 - 03/03/12 09:49 AM (65.87.39.230)
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Building degredation is a good idea.
The IMPLEMENTATION sucked on ice.
That's the issue.
With the new training set up AND the building degredation, you can do the math and a high level 10 can be brought down to a mid level 9 in 6 WEEKS .
TADA! That's the gripe.
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ghostrider
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Re: Use Updates or Sarna ->Neveron News for game change announcements
[Re: Catacomb]
#164619 - 03/03/12 09:58 AM (70.173.25.223)
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A big problem here catacomb is the fact some of these large empires have over 8 years worth of real time tied up in them and 1000's or real dollars. Ideas to limit what they can do is going to meet with alot of resistance, and most of it is valid.
There are several issues with the way its done.
Farming has been in the game since they were allowed 5 empires. Now they use the accounts of others that have left the game to farm with, while their real accounts reap the benefits. Limiting the amount people can get from farms means they will actually have to face the same problems that those people just coming into the game must face. Limited funds and resources. Some people found ways around the rules.
Part of the degragation was to get rid of tents. Problem was, tents arent as affected by the degragation like they wanted it to. Wiping out 20 buildings that each one of them only held 1 pop isnt gonna do much to the tenters. It did, how every affect those with the big concentrated cities.
This aspect forced people to click on the cities that were affected, in order to fix them, and mobbed all the units in there that the soi garrisons didnt prevent. Since alot of people dont like having land for people to attack thru or want to protect that land, they make alot of things hd only. This is another issue, but for some they dont see the issue with it. Of course, they have their defenses set up to take advantage of it, and say anyone can do it.
Protecting the lands needed to avoid the mobbing means less bv/units they can use to hit someone else. And that seems to be the big evil of problem. They want to be able to drop all their bv on someone else, and not have to worry about being hit back.
A few of the problems with game balance cause headaches too but that is in a differnt thread.
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