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buc
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Re: LMAO! skill checks are good. [Re: rantamplan]
      #165200 - 04/28/12 03:41 AM (125.239.231.73)

I've checked there mate... Nothing from you lol... Try again??

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Re: LMAO! skill checks are good. [Re: buc]
      #165209 - 04/29/12 11:58 PM (210.86.1.168)

BTW, selling emp with -11/-14 PNT, and another emp with a -8 gun PNT, and a -61 gun TX-L2.

PM me with offers... just think, -60 gun sniper or in a 150 cf tower

Also a -13 gun Nemi or grf-dest


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Re: LMAO! skill checks are good. [Re: buc]
      #165210 - 04/30/12 12:17 AM (24.17.137.174)

You know what's sad, this game is so shot that a -13 gun Nemi isn't worth a buck more than an 8 gun Nemi. =P That said, since Randycode/Codefest killed my Rhino and theres about a zero percent chance I'll get it back, I'm always taking donations! =P

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Re: LMAO! skill checks are good. [Re: Katrar]
      #165211 - 04/30/12 03:00 AM (50.137.208.91)

anyone know, has the owner of this debacle given up yet, or is he still holding out hope that these new players who are flocking in will donate?

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Re: LMAO! skill checks are good. [Re: KJI_3x6]
      #165212 - 04/30/12 04:00 AM (24.17.137.174)

I have a level 1 with 22 geckos with skills of -10 or better. Most of those are between -20 and -37. Anyone have a time machine I can hop back to 2003 and sell it for $50,000????

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Re: LMAO! skill checks are good. [Re: Katrar]
      #165213 - 04/30/12 04:31 AM (96.254.32.145)

*thumbs up* keep up the good work.....more like lack of SM! l8rs DABOSS

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Re: LMAO! skill checks are good. [Re: cbtgod]
      #165214 - 04/30/12 09:38 AM (193.144.201.40)

LoL!

¿you have a -61 gunnery Tx-L2?

thats slightly pointless since the worst possible shot is firing at long range with 21 heavy woods in between to amech on partial coverture that is lying on the ground (if having PC and beigng on the ground is possible) while moving at top speed... and that would be only a 4+2x21+3+1+2=52 penality to hit.

yeah, that unit CANT miss a shot as long as it has LoS.

SM seriouesly you have to do something about this, really soon the only possible outcome of this (after fixing the game) will be a full reset!.


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Re: LMAO! skill checks are good. [Re: rantamplan]
      #165215 - 04/30/12 03:00 PM (125.239.231.73)

I think he would excel in a 3x range IDF-20 tower. If only I had thought to research one before now lol.

Now can we stop talking about these skills... or SM might delete my emps again for some reason.


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Re: LMAO! skill checks are good. [Re: buc]
      #165216 - 04/30/12 03:46 PM (24.17.137.174)

I think it's clear that this game is dead, from every perspective, and that these massive flaws in training are proof that codefest did in fact kill Neveron. It's just a matter of time until the servers are unplugged and it becomes a memory. Because Mantis is right, at this point only a full reset would be likely to fix what will become the new normal for nev skills over the coming months, years, and we know any sort of reset would leave nev with 1 player. SM.

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Re: LMAO! skill checks are good. [Re: Katrar]
      #165217 - 04/30/12 08:01 PM (50.137.208.91)

i'm gonna log into my empires, i want to get a crazy skilled something....i think my best is currently at 0 gun...

too bad the game is so beyond **** over that it will never be of any use.

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Re: LMAO! skill checks are good. [Re: KJI_3x6]
      #165218 - 04/30/12 09:24 PM (209.89.154.71)

Nev died 4 months ago when match left, hehehe.

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Re: LMAO! skill checks are good. [Re: Torq]
      #165226 - 05/01/12 11:59 AM (99.26.68.88)

nope nev died when SM joined

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Re: LMAO! skill checks are good. [Re: Rallis]
      #165255 - 05/03/12 02:26 AM (70.173.10.66)

I said something like this would happen when they said there was no limit to how low the skills could go. I got told it wouldnt happen. Trying to keep skills at neg 4 was difficult if not impossible. Now with people saying they have skill 9 units in public mail, I will have to repeat, the training system is BROKEN. I said this style of training wasnt a good one, but got told it was the best way to train. Even without the issues now plaguing it.

I also said skill should be capped at 0. Got told this is rediculous since nevs terrain sucks that bad. Yet the same people didnt like the suggestion of making the defenders skill down easier or start with better skills, to accomidate those same horrible terrain problems.

Another thing. I keep seeing people say the game is dead. If nev is sooo dead, why are people still logging in nev, as well as here?
How do you know nev is having issues unless YOU are still logging in?
You say dont log in, but continue to do it yourself. Finish off your empires by hitting that one little button saying claim all in soi. Then log out.

I see how easy it is to make a game, but havent seen too many people actually do it. What happened to invasion? The same thing that happened to nev. The balancing of the game went out and the programmers couldnt figure how to bring it back in line.

Hard core gamers arent gonna let the casual players survive because they either dont have the time to play like the hard core wants to, or dont have someone online 24 hours a day to give them the time.

SM. It is time to make a stand. Start removing or shutting off the stuff that isnt wokring, even if its war, and fix it, or just open up the market to allow people to buy what ever they want for cheap and let them drop on everything else. The full reset isnt an option if the game flaws arent fixed, since it would mean the same thing, only everyone would be at the same level again.


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Re: LMAO! skill checks are good. [Re: ghostrider]
      #165258 - 05/03/12 07:36 AM (24.17.137.174)

ghostrider, man, you really do take one step forward, two steps back don't you.

Protip: when old players were saying this was the best way to train, they sure as hell weren't talking about the system as implemented. And you know it. Stop being that guy.

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Re: LMAO! skill checks are good. [Re: Katrar]
      #165261 - 05/03/12 10:24 AM (70.173.10.66)

Honestly, the old maintainence style training wasnt that bad. It did have some flaws with it, but it worked. The whole system should have been fine to counteract the supposed reason for skill ups. Specialized training should have been needed for any sort of skill downs. The system worked, though not sure why the admins decided to have the seperate levels.
The specialized training needed some tweaking, or atleast something that would allow you to auto fire soldiers after soo many skill checks and didnt improve to what a user set level.

Now if the maintainence level was set to the average skill level of an empire, ie empires with 0 to neg skilled units requiring more money vs an empire with average of skill 5 being less money, then i could see the levels being implemented. I just did not see the improving of units thru the maintainence style training.


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Re: LMAO! skill checks are good. [Re: ghostrider]
      #165338 - 05/09/12 02:10 AM (71.82.56.141)

Well guys I have been staying out of the bullshit the last few months, but really I need to say something. I now have 4 -30/-30 beh-idf. If things keep going this way, I will soon have a batt of -30/-30 vecs IN MY LEVEL FOUR. Shadow, I have supported you, and have not slung insults or comments your way, but really? -30/-30 vehicles? This is ridiculous.

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Re: LMAO! skill checks are good. [Re: Mithrander]
      #165353 - 05/09/12 06:20 PM (210.86.1.168)

SM told me they will be removed, and not to get too attached to them.

[@NoobieDoobieDoo_afk] and dont get yourself to attached to those ubder units, as the code will be modified to eliminate that sort of extreme skills, and i dont want to listen to you cry about how ive ruined your empire when that happens

I post this since most people wouldn't have been in chat when he said it, and he doesn't seem to like putting anything official up.


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Re: LMAO! skill checks are good. [Re: buc]
      #165355 - 05/09/12 06:56 PM (24.17.137.174)

lol more code modifications...

He just doesn't learn.

Hint, SM: SCRAP and rebuild. How many times do you need to be run over before you stop running across the freeway?

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Re: LMAO! skill checks are good. [Re: buc]
      #165368 - 05/10/12 05:22 PM (78.51.66.164)

Quote:

SM told me they will be removed, and not to get too attached to them.

[@NoobieDoobieDoo_afk] and dont get yourself to attached to those ubder units, as the code will be modified to eliminate that sort of extreme skills, and i dont want to listen to you cry about how ive ruined your empire when that happens

I post this since most people wouldn't have been in chat when he said it, and he doesn't seem to like putting anything official up.





Estimated Time of Arrival (ETA) for aforementioned fix / patch (= removal / nerfing of uber skilled soldiers)?


By the way, still waiting for the long overdue (at least IMVHO) removal / nerfing of existing uber upgraded monster Mechs, any news - and or an ETA?


Have a nice day / night.


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Re: LMAO! skill checks are good. [Re: NeverSayNever]
      #165369 - 05/10/12 05:48 PM (78.51.66.164)

BTW, why not simply create a 'legacy' stable / Mech museum for uber upgraded monster Mechs? Basically a cloned variant of the already existing dueling stable but with some more restrictions (units not usable at all, only viewable (nostalgia mode))


Uber upgraded monster Mechs would be unavailable for land war (ab-)use and dueling (ab-)use but still available for your viewing pleasure (nostalgia).


Minor drawback: moving all the uber upgraded monster Mechs into a second stable would not help to trim down the Mech database.



Just some food for thought ...

Have a nice day / night.


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Re: LMAO! skill checks are good. [Re: NeverSayNever]
      #165396 - 05/14/12 10:06 AM (161.184.189.112)

He cant code the size of the pages correctly and you want this? Really? Give your head a shake.

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Re: LMAO! skill checks are good. [Re: rantamplan]
      #165410 - 05/15/12 05:32 AM (128.190.125.2)

Randy was a god-send comparitively. I can't believe he ran him into the dirt. I'd take him back in a heartbeat at this point.

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