Design Challenge

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Karagin
11/07/05 12:32 AM
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Finding their selves in need of a replacement for the aging 30 ton Comanche, the Vondor Imperium put out word that they would be looking for bids and entires for a 30 ton mech that meets the following critria:

(LEVEL 1 Tech ONLY)

30 tons
Top Speed 12 to 14 Run if possible
Armor between 4 to 6 tons
Weapons:

At least one Long Range Ammo feed weapon.
Two or more secondary engery weapons.

Entries must be in by the 31st of Decemeber.
Karagin

Given time and plenty of paper, a philosopher can prove anything.
KamikazeJohnson
11/07/05 12:44 AM
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Hmm...nice to see a design challenge up again, but those criteria are pretty restrictive...L1, 30 tins, 4 tons armour, 8/12/0leaves 5.5 tons free...3 tons for LRM5 + ammo leaves 2.5 tons for 2 energy weapons...

I only see about 3 or 4 possible combinations here :-(
Peace is that glorious moment in history when everyone stands around reloading.
--Thomas Jefferson
Karagin
11/07/05 06:34 AM
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Sorry, the Vondor only use level 1 stuff....
Karagin

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Auren_Shiro
11/07/05 03:14 PM
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So wait... You want a 30 tonner with 12-14 PREFERRED top speed?

Otherwise we have fun with level 1 tech?
Need...more...Nevcrack...
KamikazeJohnson
11/07/05 04:54 PM
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VDR-7V Vanderveen

30 tons

Chassis: Wells 990
Power Plant: PlasmaStar 240
Cruising Speed: 86
Maximum Speed: 129
Jump Jets: none
Jump Capacity: none
Armor: Durallex Light
Armament:
1 Shigunga LRM 5
4 Dodd Small Lasers
Manufacturer: Johnson 'Mechworks Inc.
Primary Factory: Soul
Communications System: Sony MSF-21
Targeting and Tracking System: Wayne Marksman

Overview:
When word reached top JMInc. executives about the Vondor Imperium's call for a new light 'Mech design, they immediately called on their senior designer, known for bizarre, yet oddly effective concept 'Mechs. After presenting him with the design restrictions, they had only one additional request: "Please keep this one normal!"

Normal, however, is a dirty word in the JMInc. design department.

Luckily for the executives, the criteria left little room for foolishness. Unluckily for them, the senior designer is as creative as he is eccentric, and the VDR-7V Vanderveen is the startling result.

Following the Vondor Imperium's criteria, the VDR-7V Vanderveen is 30 tons, carries 4.5 tons of Durralex Light armour, has a top speed of 129 km/h, and sports both long- and close-range weaponry. The 5-barrel LRM rack is unsurprising, being the only rack light enough to fit the available space, but the rest of the design takes a left turn from Normality.

First, the JMInc. team decided to enhance both stability and mobility by using a quad chassis. Armour was concentrated on the body of the 'Mech, leaving the legs only lightly covered (legs are, after all, somewhat expendable on a quad...) in order to better protect the weaponry. The Shigunga LRM rack was placed just above the cockpit, using the 'Mech's head movement as a limited turret (and, incidentally, giving the poor 'Mechwarrior a nasty jolt whenever it's fired, owing to that particular model's high recoil). As a crowning touch, the 'Mech mounts a mass of Dodd Light Lasers rather than the expected pair of ubiquitous Martell Mediums, one pair in the Center Torso, and a single rear-mounted(!) laser on each side.

While the JMInc. designers have high hopes for the Vanderveen, the execs are once again shaking their collective heads in disbelief over how something so odd could result from such restrictive design criteria.

Capabilities:
Bizarre design concept aside, the VDR-7V Vanderveen has a role, and the tools to perform it effectively and with style. A brisk top speed coupled with quad mobility and stability allow it to move at speed through all but the worst terrain, and get itself in and out of trouble in a heartbeat. The light missile rack allows it to engage at range, or harrass fleeing enemies, while the front- and rear-mounted light lasers provide protection against vehicles and swarming infantry.

Modest firepower plus the mobility to get that firepower where it's most needed make the Vanderveen a decent Jack-of-all-trades-master-of-none light 'Mech, almost certainly worth it's cost.


VDR-7V Vanderveen

Technology Base: - Inner Sphere - Level 1
Equipment Mass
Internal Structure: 3
Engine: 240 11.5
Walking MP: 8
Running MP: 12
Jumping MP: 0
Heat Sinks: 10 0
Gyro: 3
Cockpit: 3
Armor Factor: 72 4.5

Internal Armor
Structure Value
Head 3 6
Center Torso 10 12
Center Torso(rear) 6
R/L Torso 7 10
R/L Torso(rear) 4
R/L Arm 7 5
R/L Leg 7 5

Weapons and Ammo Location Critical Tonnage
LRM 5 Ammo LT 1 1
Small Laser LT 1 0.5
Small Laser RT 1 0.5
Small Laser CT 1 0.5
Small Laser CT 1 0.5
LRM 5 H 1 2

My Blurb:
I seem to have a quad obsession lately...ah well, they have their advantages.

BTW, can anyone identify the source of the name without asking Mr. Google?
Peace is that glorious moment in history when everyone stands around reloading.
--Thomas Jefferson
LordChaos
11/07/05 07:04 PM
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Will a design with a 9 or 11 run speed be considered?
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Karagin
11/07/05 07:15 PM
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The faster the better, but it still has to meet the other requirments.
Karagin

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Karagin
11/07/05 07:15 PM
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It might be if all the other requirments are meet and a reason is given as to why it is moving that speed.
Karagin

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Karagin
11/07/05 07:17 PM
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Now that is something I never thought I would see...the LRM in the head! Wow...better then ammo in the head.
Karagin

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LordChaos
11/07/05 11:02 PM
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hmmm... I do belive I'll do something with 6/9 or 7/11 movement... more options for the long ranged firepower...
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LordChaos
11/07/05 11:24 PM
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DLL-X1A Dady Long Legs

Mass: 30 tons
Chassis: Unknown
Power Plant: GM 180
Cruising Speed: 64.8 km/h
Maximum Speed: 97.2 km/h
Jump Jets: Short Flight Mk IV
Jump Capacity: 120 meters
Armor: Durallex Light
Armament: 2
1 Class D "Match Grade" Autocannon
2 Martel Medium Lasers
Manufacturer(s): 1
Chaos Consulting, Ltd
Communications System: Unknown
Targeting & Tracking System: Unknown

Overview: 25
When Vondor Imperium requested design submitions for a
Commando replacement, CCL was caught unready. They
had been performing trials on a new chasis / engine
combination, but the design's orignal speed was
signifigantly below that requested by Vondor Imperium.
While they could increase the speed slightly without
redoing the entire chasis (by replacing the JJs and the
medium lasers with a larger engine and 2 small lasers,
bringing movement up to 7/11/0), they thought that the
abilities provided by the jump jets and the second medium
offset the reduced speed enough to make it worthwhile.

For weapons, they decided to forgo the expected LRM
rack and install one of the Match Grade serries of
autocanon (the Class D model). While damage output of
this weapon is low, it's range and accuracy is unmatched
on the 3026 field. Mounted in a near-turret like mounting
on the right torso, it's mating with the chasis provides for
an excellent firing platform for long range sniping. The
paired Martell lasers are in the same mounting, on ether
side of the AC. This allows fore quick replacement of
damaged parts while in the field. Unfortunately, it also
increases the odds something bad happening to them all
at once instead of just one at a time...


Type: DLL-X1A Dady Long Legs
Technology Base: Inner Sphere Level 1 Custom
Tonnage: 30

Equipment Mass
Internal Structure: 3.0
Engine: 180 7.0
Walking MP: 6
Running MP: 9
Jumping MP: 4
Heat Sinks: 10 0
Gyro: 2
Cockpit: 3
Armor Factor: 64 4.0
Internal Armor
Structure Value
Head: 3 6
Center Torso: 10 7
Center Torso (Rear): 3
R/L Torso: 7 7
R/L Torso (Rear): 3
R/L Arm: 7 7
R/L Leg: 7 7

BV : 539 Cost : 2178800
Weapons and Ammo Location Critical Heat Mass
Autocannon/2 RT 1 1 6.0
@Autocannon/2 (45) RT 1 0 1.0
Medium Laser RT 1 3 1.0
Jump Jet(s) RRL 1 0 0.5
Jump Jet(s) LRL 1 0 0.5
Jump Jet(s) LFL 1 0 0.5
Jump Jet(s) RFL 1 0 0.5
Medium Laser RT 1 3 1.0
*** HS RFL1 LFL1 RRL1

*** END



Yes, it's a quad. Yes, I purposely sellected a way to let me put an AC on instead of the expected LRM... because I realy wanted the AC2.
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KamikazeJohnson
11/08/05 12:02 AM
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Hey!...I thought JMInc. had a patent on AC/2-toting light 'Mechs
Peace is that glorious moment in history when everyone stands around reloading.
--Thomas Jefferson
KamikazeJohnson
11/08/05 12:03 AM
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Ammo in head = automatic "explosive" ejection system
Peace is that glorious moment in history when everyone stands around reloading.
--Thomas Jefferson
Karagin
11/08/05 05:32 AM
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Interesting corporate espionage...this is very fitting for the Imperium.

I like this! Keep it up!
Karagin

Given time and plenty of paper, a philosopher can prove anything.
Karagin
11/08/05 05:33 AM
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Well, let's just an Archer found out the hard way! LOL!
Karagin

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LordChaos
11/08/05 11:56 AM
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Nay... you just tried to corner the market, and CCL is trying to take it away from you..:D
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LordChaos
11/08/05 11:58 AM
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If you only have 1 ton of ammo and need more then 1 crit for the weapon, the ammo should go into the head. (why not? If you are taking a head crit, odds aren't good for you mechwarrior anyways..:) )

If you have 2 tons of ammo, it belong in the CT.

(Obviously, I like giving MW's a bad case of worry..;) )
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LordChaos
11/08/05 11:58 AM
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I take it the design was accepted into the trials even though it's on the slow side then?

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Karagin
11/08/05 08:22 PM
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It will be considered, one of the selection committee memebers understood that the campaign funds and special secatery were for.
Karagin

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Antaris
11/12/05 10:20 AM
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Do we just post entries here or do we send them elsewhere.

Antaris Eversari
Karagin
11/12/05 10:33 AM
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Post them here in this thread.
Karagin

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Antaris
11/12/05 11:16 AM
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Sidewinder SX-1

Mass: 30 Ton
Internal Structure: Standard (52 pts) 3.00 tons
Engine: 240 Pitban Fusion 11.50 tons
Heat sinks: 10 single
Gyro: Standard 3.00 tons
Cockpit, Life support, Sensors: Standard 3.00 tons
Myomer: Standard
Actuators: LA: Sh,UA,LA,Hand RA: Sh,UA,LA,Hand


Armour (71 pts): Standard 4.50 tons

Internal Armour
Location: L/R L/R
Head: 3 8
Center torso: 10 10(4)
L/R torso: 7/7 7(2)/7(2)
Arms: 5/5 7/7
Legs: 7/7 9/9



Weapons and Equipment:

Type Ammo Location Heat
LRM 5 24 LA 2 3.00 tons
ML N/A RT 3 1.00 tons
ML N/A LT 3 1.00 tons

Heat Risk: None Heat sinks: 10 Max heat generation: 10


TOTALS: NO Heat generation 30 tons 2,576,340 C-bills 593 BV

Damage Factors: SRD=9 MRD=3 LRD=1.


I have this in Heavy Metal format but can be converted.

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Antaris
11/12/05 11:17 AM
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Didnt display who I wanted it sorry.

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Karagin
11/12/05 07:14 PM
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Okay, I need a name of your mech manufactor and some other background stuff. I will include the mech in the testing, but I do need the other info to keep things straight.
Karagin

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coldwave
11/12/05 10:05 PM
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Greetings all. Attached is the SCLP-1X Scalper. Near as I can tell, I stayed within the guidelines, with one exception. With a 240 rated engine (120kph), I simply could not build the mech I had envisoned in my mind. So, I dropped it down to a 210 (111kph), put the mech together, and adjusted the fluff accordingly. Beyond that though, the mech should be legal. If there's any other issues, just give a holler. Oh, and yes, I did deliberately put a hatchet on a light-mech.
- coldwave
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SCLP-1X Scalper

Mass: 30 tons
Chassis: Scalper MK1
Power Plant: Vlar 210
Cruising Speed: 75.25
Maximum Speed: 118.25
Jump Jets: none
Jump Capacity: none
Armor: SimplePlate Manufacturers Type M
Armament:
1 LRM 5
2 Small Lasers
1 Medium Laser
Manufacturer: Kater&Kater Mech Foundaries
Primary Factory: Kater&Kater Mech-Works
Communications System: Sony MSF-21
Targeting and Tracking System: Omicron VII

Overview:
When Kater&Kater Mech-Foundries received the call for a new 30
ton battle-mech, the Kater twins knew this was their chance to enter
the big time. Having only just retooled their factory from tank to
mech production, the business needed a contract fast. The Research
and Development department was immediately sent the design
requirements and told that they had a mere three weeks to complete
the design concept, and then an additional two weeks to build it.
The design was completed in record time, and so four weeks later, the
SCLP-1X Scalper was sent for testing.

Capabilities:
Designed with versatility in mind, the Scalper is ready to combat
enemy threats at all ranges. Equipped with a Deadeye Long Range
Missile launcher, one Diverse Optics Type 20 Medium Laser, and two
Diverse Optics Type 10 Small Lasers, the Scalper is easily a threat
for most any other light mech. The icing on the proverbial cake
comes in the inclusion of a Battle Hatchet specifically built for
this mech.
The mech itself has a surprisingly sinister appearance for its
class. Inspired by historical Terran documents depicting tribesman
in ceremonial battle garb, the mech is coated dark brown, green, and
yellow color tones. This is especially accented on the mech's head, as it is
sculpted to look like that of a battle scarred, war-painted, and very angry
man. The physical stature of the mech is roughly the same as that of
a phoenix-hawk, but it has a more muscular build giving the
impression of great strength and power. All this combined with the
aggressively curved and serrated battle-hatchet gives the Scalper the
appearance of an ancient warrior of the past, come forward to inflict
pain and suffering on his enemies.
Unfortunately, a problem in shipping resulted in the planned
Magna 240 engine being lost in transit, and a spare Vlar 210 had to
be used in its place. Consequently, the mech is only capable of
111kph, but this is slightly offset by the room freed for additional
equipment. Although not exactly what was planned, the designers are
still happy with the over-all results, and thus the first proto-type was
successfully shipped in time for the competition.



SCLP-1X Scalper

Technology Base: - Inner Sphere - Level 1
Equipment Mass
Internal Structure: 3
Engine: 210 9
Walking MP: 7
Running MP: 11
Jumping MP: 0
Heat Sinks: 10 0
Gyro: 3
Cockpit: 3
Armor Factor: 80 5

Internal Armor
Structure Value
Head 3 7
Center Torso 10 12
Center Torso(rear) 3
R/L Torso 7 10
R/L Torso(rear) 1
R/L Arm 5 8
R/L Leg 7 10

Weapons and Ammo Location Critical Tonnage
LRM 5 LA 1 2
LRM 5 Ammo LA 1 1
Small Laser LT 1 0.5
Small Laser RT 1 0.5
Hatchet RA 2 2
Medium Laser CT 1 1
Heatsink LT 1 1
Heatsink RT 1 1
Karagin
11/12/05 10:48 PM
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Now this is an interesting and different approach to the contest.
Karagin

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Antaris
11/13/05 08:51 AM
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Type/Model: Sidewinder SX-1
Tech: Inner Sphere / 3025
Config: Biped BattleMech
Rules: Level 1, Standard design

Mass: 30 tons
Chassis: Standard
Power Plant: 240 Pitban Fusion
Walking Speed: 86.4 km/h
Maximum Speed: 129.6 km/h
Jump Jets: None
Jump Capacity: 0 meters
Armor Type: Standard
Armament:
1 LRM 5
2 Medium Lasers
Manufacturer: Defiance Industries
Location: Hesperus II
Communications System: Build 1685 Tacticom
Targeting & Tracking System: Alexis Photon Targeting Acquisition System

==Overview:==
The Sidewinder is a replacement design for a 30 ton Comanche for the Vondor
Imperium. It meets all requested requirements.

The Sidewinder SX-1 is an agile and versitile mech. Designs were started by
Defiance Industries when the Vondor Imperium requested a new 30 ton Commache
with certain requirement. The first requirement met was the requested top
speed, which was done by the use of a Pitbull 240 Fusion engine.
The next requirement met was the need for two laser weapons minimum. Defiance
used two 3 class Aldis Medium Lasers allowing the mech to preform effectivly
at short range.
Finally a Kressly LRM-5 system was placed in the left arm to fulfill the
final requirement.
All of this was placed in a modiyfied 30 ton Spider chassis.

The electronics on the Sidewinder are the basics for a light mech but Defiance
managed to install a highly effective cooling system into the mechs frame.

==Capabilities:==
The Sidewinder has weak long range capabilities but can use them to take out
short-medium range vehicles and even light mechs. If outgunned at range by
another light it can use its high mobility to close and effectivly use its
Medium lasers at closer quaters. It can preform certain scouting mission but
due to its lack of jump jets is not the mech of choice. Another noted point
is its ability to continually Alpha Strike and move at top speed without and
heat generation.

==Battle History:==
No battle history.

==Variants:==
First variant. No others known

==Deployment==
After testing the Sidewinder the project leader came up with this suggestion for deplyment.
This mech would best be deployed to exterminate lances of light and medium
vehicles, most other lights or even short range medium mechs as its mobility
can keep it out of harm and even with its LRMs empty it can still inflict
reasonable damage. For a light.


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Type/Model: Sidewinder SX-1
Mass: 30 tons

Equipment: Crits Mass
Int. Struct.: 51 pts Standard 0 3.00
Engine: 240 6 11.50
Walking MP: 8
Running MP: 12
Jumping MP: 0
Heat Sinks: 10 Single 1 .00
(Heat Sink Loc: 1 CT)
Gyro: 4 3.00
Cockpit, Life Supt., Sensors: 5 3.00
Actuators: L: Sh+UA+LA+H R: Sh+UA+LA+H 16 .00
Armor Factor: 72 pts Standard 0 4.50

Internal Armor
Structure Value
Head: 3 8
Center Torso: 10 10
Center Torso (Rear): 4
L/R Side Torso: 7 7/7
L/R Side Torso (Rear): 2/2
L/R Arm: 5 7/7
L/R Leg: 7 9/9

Weapons and Equipment Loc Heat Ammo Crits Mass
--------------------------------------------------------
1 LRM 5 LA 2 24 2 3.00
(Ammo Locations: 1 CT)
1 Medium Laser RT 3 1 1.00
1 Medium Laser LT 3 1 1.00
--------------------------------------------------------
TOTALS: 8 36 30.00
Crits & Tons Left: 42 .00

Calculated Factors:
Total Cost: 2,576,340 C-Bills
Battle Value: 593


Here it is with some fluff.

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Karagin
11/13/05 09:25 AM
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Thanks!
Karagin

Given time and plenty of paper, a philosopher can prove anything.
Venom
06/25/06 04:22 AM
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Take a look at the Grasshopper. Standard LRM-5 in the head.
Karagin
06/25/06 01:26 PM
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Inside joke, you see Kamikaze sumbited a mech for a challenge game I was running, it had ammo in the head, it lasted longer then the last mech my group used that happen to have ammo in the head, which was modifed Archer using some Level 3 tech, it fell, did some damage got took 22pts of damage fell again, this time it took some damage to it's head which had been hit before, got a critical and BOOM hit the ammo.
Karagin

Given time and plenty of paper, a philosopher can prove anything.
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