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Chunga
08/06/02 10:37 PM
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Check out the latest update. A present for all of you from Warner.

Chunga
Eclipz
08/06/02 10:45 PM
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That is awesome!!!!!!!!!!!!


NathanKell
08/06/02 11:38 PM
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Woohoo!
Woohoo!
Woohoo!
-NathanKell, BT Space Wars
Question with boldness even the existence of a God; because, if there be one, he must more approve of the homage of reason, than that of blind-folded fear.
Thomas Jefferson
novakitty
08/07/02 12:18 AM
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Not a bad way of explaining the new appearances.

So to all those who dislike any MW:DA mech design: It is the WOB's fault! Kill them!!

On further examination, the Caplleans are also to blame. As if we needed more reason to smite them.
meow


Edited by novakitty (08/07/02 12:23 AM)
Karagin
08/07/02 03:28 AM
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Ok I am very impressed...now if only the Beta and other links were working...:D
Karagin

Given time and plenty of paper, a philosopher can prove anything.
Acolyte
08/07/02 03:55 AM
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One more link per month.

I like the designs, and the art. They don't look much like the originals (except the thunderbolt) but that's to be expected. These I will add to my collection as soon as Iron Wind puts them in my local gamestore.

And I really apreciate CBT for bringing the unseen back.

Light a fire for a man, and you keep him warm for one night,
Light a man on fire and he'll be warm for the rest of his life.
Acolyte
Karagin
08/07/02 04:07 AM
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Actually the Locust has that Locust look to it IMHO.

Yes it is very nice to see them back...
Karagin

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Acolyte
08/07/02 04:16 AM
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Actually, you're right on that point...... I would have like the laser to be underslung, though. It also looked a lot more beefy, which I like.

Light a fire for a man, and you keep him warm for one night,
Light a man on fire and he'll be warm for the rest of his life.
Acolyte
Karagin
08/07/02 04:19 AM
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Beefy...is not something I would have thought to hear in reference to the Locust! LOL!
Karagin

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Bob_Richter
08/07/02 06:57 AM
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It is, after all, the most heavily armored 20 tonner available.
-Bob (The Magnificent) Richter

Assertions made in this post are the humble opinion of Bob.
They are not necessarily statements of fact or decrees from God Himself, unless explicitly and seriously stated to be so.
:)
Karagin
08/07/02 07:41 AM
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Because the older picture gave it that "bird like" look and feel that matched it's speed and over all fragileness.
Karagin

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novakitty
08/07/02 09:25 AM
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you do know that this is how they will explain the "Quarterback Atlas" and other MWDA mechs you have spoken out against?
meow
Karagin
08/07/02 09:29 AM
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Atlas is not an Unseen thus there is no need to redraw it...if TPTB go that route to mix in the MWDA robots well that is up to them...and to set the record straight, I have NOT been the only one to speak out against the MWDA plastic mechs.
Karagin

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Karagin
08/07/02 09:39 AM
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It would be nice...best person to talk to on that would be Randal.
Karagin

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Karagin
08/07/02 09:49 AM
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Can't hurt...Good Luck.
Karagin

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JadeDragon
08/07/02 11:04 AM
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I think they all resemble the originals very well, enough to look close enough for use and different enough to not get in trouble again.

Thunderbolt does look the most like the original, but the Pheonix Hawk looks pretty darn close as well. That Marauder though sure resembles the Penetrator. And that Locust new look is sweat....
Nightward
08/07/02 05:37 PM
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Wow! It's great to see the Unseen...err...Seen back in the game. They look similar to their original forms (except the Marauder, which looks like the evil twin brother of the Caesar), but I'll reserve judgement until I see the new Shadow Hawk and Wolverines.
Yea, verily. Let it be known far and wide that Nightward loathes MW: DA. Indeed, it is with the BURNING ANIMUS OF A THOUSAND SUNS that he doth rage against it with.
novakitty
08/07/02 05:38 PM
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No, others have complained about them, but it does seem odd that you speak in anger against those molded in plastic, yet compliment these written on paper. I expect the two categories will merge into one (especially considering the fluff text on these remakes).
meow
Karagin
08/07/02 06:17 PM
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I don't follow the connection you are making here. The Unseen being returned with new art is more important then MWDA.

IF they become clicky bases plastic toys then that is up to WK. I have NO plans on buying them that way and will hope that Iron Winds Miniatures has plans for pewter versions...

So could you please explain you point since you have LOST me on what is you were trying to tell me.
Karagin

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Karagin
08/07/02 06:19 PM
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Looking at the new Marauder it seems that the big changes were that they took the gun off the top of the mech and put it down in the torso and lost the NOSE that stuck out on it...so it looks squater but it still has the feel of the original I think.

And I took can't wait to see the Shadow Hawk and the Wolverine!
Karagin

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Karagin
08/07/02 06:43 PM
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Excellent and over on Rick's Heavy Metal board it has been hinted at that WK is trying to put some distance between MWDA and BT and to them having click based versions of the Original mechs is not the path their marketing department wants to go and they feel it would be a step backwards.

So it seems we have our UNSEEN back and that is a major improvement.
Karagin

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MacLeod
08/07/02 08:46 PM
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YAAAAAAAYYYYYY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I LOVE THE PHOENIX HAWK!!!!!!!
Drugs don't kill people, pancreatic cancer kills people.

... and whoever heard of a drug that causes pancreatic cancer?
novakitty
08/07/02 09:32 PM
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My line of thinking is that you (and plenty of others) were opposed to the new looks of the MWDA mechs as much as to the gameplay and size issues. Maybe the point I am trying to make is a bit more subtle that I realized, but I suspect that the same Atlas you spoke against will be in this sourcebook, as well as the SRM Black Hawk and other twists on classic and semi-classic designs.
meow
realworldviews
08/07/02 10:33 PM
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Those will be opening up in time, they would never let something this big out all at one time.
Colonel Brian Davis
Gamers United
"Dreams become reality, for all who start off with a dream"
realworldviews
08/07/02 10:39 PM
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I just think that the plastic MWDA mechs just look BAD. With the increase of size they should have been able to make them look better.
Colonel Brian Davis
Gamers United
"Dreams become reality, for all who start off with a dream"
BroCaptMaximus
08/07/02 10:43 PM
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Those are absolutely awesome!!!! I really like the new look of the Marauder; and the T-bolt looks sweet as well. I'm really looking forward to seeing what the new Warhammer and Archer look like.
BroCaptMaximus
08/07/02 10:50 PM
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The MWDA mechs look very childish/cartoonish when compared to the mechs of CBT. The mechs from "classic" look more realistic, or at least as realistic as a 10 meter tall walking tank from the 31st century can.

All the mechs for MWDA I've seen have exagerated features that look retarded. Such as the huge missile packs on the Black Hawk, the "hatchet" that is as big as the Hatchetman, and those butt-ugly spikey pads on the Atlas (And that big round head on the Atlas too).

In comparison the "new" 'Unseen" mechs look positively awesome.
Spartan
08/08/02 03:01 PM
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At last they're back!!! The unseens are my all time favorites(for the most part) and I love that they're back. I'm a little sad that they had to be redrawn but given the circumstances I understand and will definately buy them all.

Besides the ones already mentioned, which ones are also coming back? All of them, most of them, the most popular? I'd like to see them all come back including even the quad unseens. (But not the Ost variants, those are the only unseens I don't like)
Spartan

We demand rigidly defined areas of doubt and uncertainty.

(I refer you to what Nightward said)
MacLeod
08/08/02 03:14 PM
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Dude, I think they're all gonna come back! You're right, the Ost series is garbage... but the new Warhammer is gonna be sweet...
Drugs don't kill people, pancreatic cancer kills people.

... and whoever heard of a drug that causes pancreatic cancer?
ChalengerII
08/08/02 04:11 PM
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Very nice
Might just have to use a few of these. If only cause they look cool.
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