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fredwhodead1
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new inf/hielies/question
#114654 - 09/25/05 02:38 PM (24.102.233.29)

I know some of my suggestions are pretty unlikely but hear them out.

Question- Since vehicle machine guns and flamers do 4-14dmg against inf targets, how come infantry machines and flamers, which do to the mass firepower only do 10 dmg against inf targets. they to should do 4-14 dmg actually more like 10-40 dmg due to dmg changes.

suggestions

new infantry platoon

sniper Infantry-
dmg is only 10, but due to scopes and tageting their range is 3/6/9 and they are much more likely to deal vehicle crews and mechs critical hits, especially open vehicles. move 1 space with foot, and 3 with motorizied and jump infantry.
stats
for 28man platoon-
dmg- 10
rng-3/6/9
PBM- -1
bonus-
50% more likely to deal a critical hit.

and or...

Mortar Infantry-
dmg-16
rng-2/4/6
PBM-2
+1 to hit because it is basically an inderict fire canon

Grenades-
My suggestion is to sell grenades on the marketplace. You can add grenades to any infantry platoon, just like an apc, and it does 20dmg, with a range of 1/2/2. You can only do a grenade strike if you have the grenades for your squad.

Attack helicopters-
this has probably been brought up before but how can you have a war strategy game without the ultimate war machine, untill the mech.
Copters can be armed just like vehicles, and they would have added to hit, since they would be in the air. Which by the way make it harder to hit. And they would move just like jump infantry or mechs.

Well those are my idea's, pick at them as you may.

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Re: new inf/hielies/question [Re: fredwhodead1]
#114663 - 09/25/05 03:32 PM (69.167.170.222)

sniper infantry? mabey against inf, but if a mech can take a hit from a laser/particle projection cannon/ large calibur, rapid explosive tipped cannon (i.e. autocannons), i really doubt a suingle bullet would do much. to do anything, the bullet itselfwould probably have to be bigger than a assualt rifle

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Re: new inf/hielies/question [Re: tbird89]
#114665 - 09/25/05 03:36 PM (24.102.233.29)

the point is that it is 28 bullets, seeing as there is 28 snipers.
it wouldnt have as much critical damage against mechs, but fighting vehicles they would be more likely to shoot the drivers, or the ammo compartments. on t

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Re: new inf/hielies/question [Re: fredwhodead1]
#114666 - 09/25/05 03:42 PM (24.102.233.29)

plus sniper rifles even today dont use normal bullets, they can use teflon coated bullets for extra penetration that cause minor explosions on impact.

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Re: new inf/hielies/question [Re: fredwhodead1]
#114668 - 09/25/05 03:52 PM (80.219.2.128)

12.7mm sniper rifles

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Re: new inf/hielies/question [Re: fredwhodead1]
#114669 - 09/25/05 03:53 PM (69.167.170.222)

somehow i doubt those armor pirecing bullets are more powerful, or more likely to crit, than a particle cannon, rapid fire 120cm cannon with explosive rounds, or hell, even a freaaking artillary cannon.

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Re: new inf/hielies/question [Re: tbird89]
#114670 - 09/25/05 03:57 PM (24.102.233.29)

it's not the bullets that make crits more likely it's the aiming of the sniper rifle. If you fire a machine gun at a jeep with say full armour, you'll hit it up, it will lose some armour point's, but snipers try to aim at the drivers or the ammo box to blow the jeep up. Same with mech and tanks.
And no they arn't more powerful, i'm saying 1 ppc does 10 dmg, well 28 shots fired consecuatively at the same location does 10 damage witht the sniper rifles. just like a mg does 10 dmg even on a mech.

ppc only does 5 dmg on inf... but thats aside the point

Edited by fredwhodead1 (09/25/05 04:06 PM)

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Re: new inf/hielies/question [Re: fredwhodead1]
#114674 - 09/25/05 04:47 PM (139.174.246.98)

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Re: new inf/hielies/question [Re: sdog]
#114675 - 09/25/05 04:54 PM (24.102.233.29)

ok..
please ppl post opinions

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Re: new inf/hielies/question [Re: fredwhodead1]
#114676 - 09/25/05 05:24 PM (139.174.246.98)

hordes of pirate inf already suck enough with a max range of 6. with range 9 they can't be engaged with aiv weapons anymore.

complete platoons of 28 snipers don't seem right too.

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Re: new inf/hielies/question [Re: sdog]
#114677 - 09/25/05 05:30 PM (80.219.2.128)

Flashpoint rules

closest to what this ifn would be is WW2 portable AT Sniper rifles (14.5 Russia, 20mm GB, 13mm Germany)

Edited by SubZero (09/25/05 05:32 PM)

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Re: new inf/hielies/question [Re: fredwhodead1]
#114679 - 09/25/05 07:06 PM (67.9.125.113)

Okay… Lot of reason to say “NO!” but I’ll stick to the obvious.

Nev History Lesson 101: At one time infantry did not break and there was no unit cap per zone. Thus many empires would simply load a 1000 infantry platoons into their city zones and either lag out the game or make the attacker spend RL DAYS cleaning out a zone. The result = impenetrable zones.

Why do I mention this… because people don’t play Nev to have uber powerful infantry platoons running around killing their 60t. @$$ kicking, city flattening, uber DP multied, death dealing, tank chomping, infantry stomping, terror inducing, DP spawned, PPC totting, mecha toyz. That’s why LRM infantry were taken out. If used properly infantry can be powerful and annoying units. Why do you think they’re so expensive to maintain? Randy doesn’t want you to have gobs of them. The rules of Nev change often and your little supped infantry could be bane of Nev if for some reason Randy changed the rules on infantry? Have you even considered the effect these units would have when using ABR or that most destruction done by pirates is by swarms of unbreakable infantry? Doubt you have ever had to clear a 200+ infantry swarm from your empire.

Sniper Infantry:
Would make AIV useless and I don’t see any reason why they should crit anything? See above.

Mortar Infantry:
Mentioned before and you have my tacit support. However, as mentioned before this type of unit would be a pain to deal with in large swarms. See above.

Grenades:
Uh… like… NO! See above.

Helicopters (VTOL units):
Mentioned many times but basically Randy has tried to code these units but they don’t recognize elevation… remember this is the same guy who can’t code water....

However the folks at MM have got it to work so who knows maybe he can ask them how they did it and go from there? Also, with all the elite units on Nev they would be fodder. As a PPC hit would probably kill the majority of them.

There is no such thing as constructive criticism only criticism. My take but keep trying.

Edited by Xia (09/25/05 07:17 PM)

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Re: new inf/hielies/question [Re: Xia]
#114681 - 09/26/05 04:51 AM (24.102.233.29)

sounds like someone has some issues

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Re: new inf/hielies/question [Re: fredwhodead1]
#114682 - 09/26/05 04:56 AM (24.102.233.29)

i twouldnt make aiv useless, aiv way out speeds inf and would be able to get to them the next turn anyway, unless they were through woods, which would give them a big +to hit.
and from that i dont see why my grenade idea was bad.

here remake

SNiper infantry-
28man platoon-
10dmg
rng-3/6/9
-2 to hit

Instead of crit hit bonus you geta nice little neg to hit, due to the skilled aiming abilities of our 2mm high little friends.

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Re: new inf/hielies/question [Re: fredwhodead1]
#114683 - 09/26/05 05:18 AM (84.24.165.226)

IF you want grenades, they'll be 0/0/0. 1/2/2 is rifle effective range.

VTOL's would be nice, even with the prospect of them being shot from the sky by elites makes them valuable against non-elites and arty.

Snipers would do something like up to 2-3 dmg vs armour, up to 7 vs infantry. -1 th instead of -2, since the best trageting computer out there is only a -1, and that got a load of hardware behind it instead of the eyeball Mk I.

Just drop the ideas except the vtol's. All specialty weapons (sniper rifles, mortars, MMG/HMG) are included in infantry anyway.

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Re: new inf/hielies/question [Re: Toontje]
#114688 - 09/26/05 09:36 AM (85.182.66.46)

yeah drop it

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Re: new inf/hielies/question [Re: ActionJackson]
#114692 - 09/26/05 10:25 AM (67.70.38.231)

Stick with designed units from the real BT universe and game as that game was balanced. Anything else has been thought of and rejected for a reason.

Some vtols, but not really any of that other crap.

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Re: new inf/hielies/question [Re: LiRa]
#114703 - 09/26/05 02:47 PM (24.102.233.29)

wdf is a vtol?

there is so much things i can say that makes all ur stuff wrong but its useless.
people on this game just hate infantry i don't understand it?

mortar/sniper is not included in infantry. i have no clue what your talking about.

and for grenades, it's not like u buy one grenade, they sell in boxes of grenades and u use them with one platoon.

yeah, it would be 0/0/1 just like mech meelee attacks like a kick, rng would be 0/0/1

snipers would do like 20 vs infantry. Man like 28 professional snipers aiming with 50X scopes right at the head? it woould take out like a whole platoon.

against armour it would do the same as assault rifle.

sorry people who think mechs and vehicles should be all powerful but in truth just to show that the game is kinda messed up all ready, 1 tank firing lrm missles does 1-15 dmg, well 28 men, with missle launchers do 14? its just insane, not to mention the rng is kind of sad.

just to have a war game without snipers isnt right.
every good war game has snipers, be it first person, strategy or even rpg!

and whats up with there being no apc's that have weapons?
i swear i think the creator of this game is racist to infantry!
In real life an apc would at least have a mg on it.

There's just a good satisfaction you get when you destroy something powerful with an infantry, it's like saying you can fire a 10 ton canon at me, but ill fire back at you with 28 missles or mortar balls or specially placed sniper bullets and blow ur crappy piece of armoured s to the hit sky high.

oh and by the way.
i do play the game for powerful infantry

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Re: new inf/hielies/question [Re: fredwhodead1]
#114704 - 09/26/05 02:48 PM (209.124.220.252)

VTOL=Helicopter. K?

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Re: new inf/hielies/question [Re: fredwhodead1]
#114705 - 09/26/05 02:49 PM (24.102.233.29)

dude if u were fight ing a dude with 1000 inf that would cost about 10000000000 dollars to maintain...

i use mechs too im not saying i dont

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Re: new inf/hielies/question [Re: Xia]
#114706 - 09/26/05 02:52 PM (24.102.233.29)

would 1000 infantry really be more trouble to handle then say 200-300 vehicles? or 100 mechs? which is they're cost equivilent.

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Re: new inf/hielies/question [Re: fredwhodead1]
#114708 - 09/26/05 03:03 PM (142.167.71.151)

That ws back before it cost 100000000000 dollars to maintain them....

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Re: new inf/hielies/question [Re: Seo]
#114710 - 09/26/05 03:06 PM (24.102.233.29)

oh well whatever, its different now

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Re: new inf/hielies/question [Re: fredwhodead1]
#114712 - 09/26/05 03:08 PM (142.167.71.151)

inf are still pretty powerful if used right, but many of us remember when they were even more powerful. It would realy suck to go back to the times when inf were kings of the battlefield.

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Re: new inf/hielies/question [Re: Seo]
#114713 - 09/26/05 03:11 PM (24.102.233.29)

did there used to be different infantry? i heard him talk of lrm infantry when was this? ive been on for 3 years and never seen any of this

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Re: new inf/hielies/question [Re: fredwhodead1]
#114716 - 09/26/05 03:42 PM (84.24.165.226)

What I meant with it's included in the platoon, it's just that. It's not a single weapon type, nor 28 weapons. srm platoon (inf SRM, not tank-'mech sized) is say 7-8 launchers with reloaders etc.

A rifle platoon has it's 5" mortar included as well as it's 3 ATRs. It's just abstract infantry, with it's equipment more or less a measure of overall equipment. Since they are not exacly the focus of the CBT game on which neveron is based, they lack detail. Putting in realism in the tactical game itself (All additions are more or less strategical or spin-offs) would rather upset the game balance, as much as when the clans were introduced (most munch item, DHS).

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Re: new inf/hielies/question [Re: Toontje]
#114717 - 09/26/05 03:56 PM (24.102.233.29)

oh i c.
yet u buy 28 weapons to make the platoon?
its just the way the game works its unrealistic but everyman has his own weapon

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Re: new inf/hielies/question [Re: fredwhodead1]
#114718 - 09/26/05 04:20 PM (24.255.140.173)

dude, learn how to either post all of your thoughts in one post, or use that wonderful "edit post" option.

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Re: new inf/hielies/question [Re: fredwhodead1]
#114719 - 09/26/05 04:22 PM (24.255.140.173)

Yes, because vehicles crit. You have to kill off infantry, which is very slow when energy weapons only kill 1-2 men per hit, and with 36 units attacking you'd run out of ammo killing that many infantry...

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Re: new inf/hielies/question [Re: Wraith]
#114721 - 09/26/05 04:45 PM (144.138.21.14)

The main use I see for cheap VTOL units is scouts. Something like the Ferret in BT.

Easy to kill but great for finding out the makeup of pirate attack groups.

And if it is the Ferret, then reasonable to research.

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Re: new inf/hielies/question [Re: Markon]
#114725 - 09/26/05 05:10 PM (24.102.233.29)

wat is this bt people speak of

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Re: new inf/hielies/question [Re: fredwhodead1]
#114726 - 09/26/05 05:10 PM (24.102.233.29)

yet 2 machine guns 1 hit an inf squad

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Re: new inf/hielies/question [Re: fredwhodead1]
#114728 - 09/26/05 05:21 PM (69.167.170.222)

BT=Battletech.
the game which neveron is based, the birthplace of battlemechs (sorta, it's kinda funny, FASA got sued WAAAAAY back by the creators of Robotech, becuase many mechs I.E the Maaruader, the warhammer, the stinger, wasp, and pheonix hawk, look quite a bit like robotech desighns lol) any refrences to CBT =classic battletech, as opposed to this new crap wizkids is trying to force on us, MW Dark age.

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Re: new inf/hielies/question [Re: fredwhodead1]
#114729 - 09/26/05 05:22 PM (203.221.51.124)

Quote:

wat is this bt people speak of

BT stands for BattleTech which is the universe that Neveron is based off vaguely.

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Re: new inf/hielies/question [Re: fredwhodead1]
#114730 - 09/26/05 05:51 PM (80.219.2.128)

Quote:

yet 2 machine guns 1 hit an inf squad

those represent a whole lot of salvos fired, it's just simplified to sinlge shots to make it easier to handle

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Re: new inf/hielies/question [Re: tbird89]
#114742 - 09/27/05 12:04 AM (12.219.244.44)

Man, some people don't know their BT history.

FASA was not sued by Robotech. FASA did not loose the lawsuit. FASA was brought to court by Harmony Gold b/c Harmony gold (a massive conglomerate) bought the rights to robotech USA. The original artist of the "Unseen" mechs sold his artwork to both robotech and battletech. FASA had fullrights to use the artwork. FASA decided to stop using the artwork to make the litigation go away. FASA still has rights to those drawings, they just don't use them b/c it isn't worth the headache and lawyer fees they would be forced to endure if they used them again. This is a case of one company having deeper pockets to force another company to ceede their way.

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Re: new inf/hielies/question [Re: davion76]
#114743 - 09/27/05 01:36 AM (84.24.165.226)

Hmm, is fred trolling by refusing to acknowledge bt?

The warrior could be usefull, ac/2 makes it able to barrage at range. Quite heavy in RP tho, 25t vtol move concept.

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Re: new inf/hielies/question [Re: Toontje]
#114745 - 09/27/05 02:24 AM (69.171.193.112)

Perhaps Randy/WW/Co. will create some custom VTOLs with adequate amounts of armor for Neveron?

Or maybe just give us Hawk Moths? Mmmm... please?

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Re: new inf/hielies/question [Re: Kanil]
#114746 - 09/27/05 02:41 AM (84.24.165.226)

Yellow Jackets.. I'd consider a DP or 3 for one of those. Or a lance, would scare the pants of anyone full.

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Re: new inf/hielies/question [Re: Toontje]
#114747 - 09/27/05 02:42 AM (69.171.193.112)

No, no. Hawk Moths! Half the fire power, 3% the effectiveness.

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Re: new inf/hielies/question [Re: Kanil]
#114748 - 09/27/05 02:44 AM (84.24.165.226)

Yellow Jackets! 4 mill for every and each lance shooting.

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Re: new inf/hielies/question [Re: Toontje]
#114750 - 09/27/05 04:44 AM (139.174.165.124)

VTOLs should be imune to IDF weapons. and they should be able to reach the idf towers very quickly. a few 2x range lrm towers will take them out.

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Re: new inf/hielies/question [Re: Toontje]
#114751 - 09/27/05 05:03 AM (69.171.193.112)

Bah, you people and your gauss rifles.
The light gauss is the way to go. It's a nice, elegent weapon.
The regular is just a big *censored* cannon... bah.

(I sound like I'm from the Davion side of the FedCom, and it scares me.)

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Re: new inf/hielies/question [Re: Kanil]
#114753 - 09/27/05 05:31 AM (131.155.35.146)

Actually, I prefer AC/20's to GR. But as 'mechbuster surrogate, yellow jackets do.

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Re: new inf/hielies/question [Re: Toontje]
#114770 - 09/27/05 01:44 PM (24.102.233.29)

i still have no clue what bt is, is a an online game? or a console?

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Re: new inf/hielies/question [Re: fredwhodead1]
#114771 - 09/27/05 01:47 PM (80.219.2.128)

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Re: new inf/hielies/question [Re: SubZero]
#114772 - 09/27/05 01:59 PM (24.102.233.29)

what the hell does ... mean!!!

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Re: new inf/hielies/question [Re: fredwhodead1]
#114774 - 09/27/05 02:26 PM (80.219.2.128)

BT is an old tabletop game back from times where we didn't have computers. Spreadsheets and DICE (yes the things with the dots) were used.

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Re: new inf/hielies/question [Re: SubZero]
#114775 - 09/27/05 02:32 PM (24.102.233.29)

wow i never heard of it

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Re: new inf/hielies/question [Re: fredwhodead1]
#114779 - 09/27/05 03:34 PM (24.255.140.173)

maybe try a google search for battletech? Hit number 1 is: FanPro's Official Classic BattleTech

might have something to do with BattleTech, not too tough to find, either.

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Re: new inf/hielies/question [Re: Wraith]
#114780 - 09/27/05 03:52 PM (139.174.246.98)

someone really hit the hornets nest.

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Re: new inf/hielies/question [Re: fredwhodead1]
#114788 - 09/27/05 05:29 PM (128.243.220.42)

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would 1000 infantry really be more trouble to handle then say 200-300 vehicles? or 100 mechs? which is they're cost equivilent.

Yes. Easily. Vehicles and mechs die easily to PPCs and lasers. These weapons do almost no damage to infantry, and they're the only ones apart from flamers that don't require reloading, and since you're suggesting sniper inf, flamers would be useless. Plus, inf are a pain because they can abr you and beat almost anything by sheer numbers.

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what's BT [Re: fredwhodead1]
#114794 - 09/27/05 06:23 PM (139.174.246.98)

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/BattleTech
there's a good overview article about BT at Wikipedia.

ps.: there's a link to sarna.net from the articel. we got a very special forum here, if it's linked in wikipedia.

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Re: what's BT [Re: sdog]
#114818 - 09/28/05 04:58 AM (24.102.233.29)

but 100-200 mechs?
infantry are slow, the flamer would be in range next turn anyway.

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Re: what's BT [Re: fredwhodead1]
#114820 - 09/28/05 05:24 AM (24.255.140.173)

People don't defend zones with 100-200 mechs, they are offensive units. If you did, there would be a line of players a mile long wanting to get in on that kill fest, as opposed to if there's a zone full of infantry it's pretty tough to find a merc to help with them.

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Re: what's BT [Re: Wraith]
#114822 - 09/28/05 06:05 AM (139.174.165.124)

many mechs means also a lot of salvage and chances to salvage a whole mech. if the number of pirate mech's is high their skill is lower then the skill of less mechs with same BV. 10 rhino's at skill 8 are less dangerous as a single one with the same bv.

it's a bit different with infantry, they're most dangerous if you lost your move (due to lag), and they get in range. if you're unlucky 14 inf platoons could get within range one of your mech, you have to expect about 6 hit's for skill 8 inf. with MG inf it's 60 damage.

on the other hand inf is rather hard to kill with ammoless weapons. (MB already mentioned it) an archer 2k got 32 lrm 15 rounds. no round kills more then one inf unit. so you can get only 32 infs, then you got to pull out the mech, send others or reload it. one bat inf has 48 inf units. if you've faced regimental strength inf in your empire, you'll learn that thei're the real (and only) horror of pirates.

for players a defence with infantry is not a good idea though. if a inf unit is destroyed the empire looses a lot of morale. while they're insignificient in combat in small numbers, they cost incredibly much maintenance.

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Re: what's BT [Re: sdog]
#114877 - 09/28/05 05:44 PM (128.243.220.22)

I once attacked a zone that was defended by about 30 mechs, 2 scorps and a medium laser tower. Suffice to say that I got onto the most Bv killed in past 24hrs.

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Re: what's BT [Re: mattbuck]
#114894 - 09/28/05 09:44 PM (69.167.170.222)

fred, as a long time player of BT (i started when i was 6) i command you in the name of all that is Mechtastic to go check it out.

and you know what guys? screw vtols, if we have to wait this long for em, lets get something really worthwile: LAMS

and since i know that fred won't be able to resist asking, a LAM is a Land/Air Mech, which, you guesssed it, looks like it's right out of Robotech. the three LAM desighns that come to mind atm are the stinger, wasp, and pheonix hawk.

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Re: what's BT [Re: tbird89]
#114898 - 09/28/05 11:20 PM (69.171.193.112)

LAMs are dead. Seo, agree with me!

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Re: what's BT [Re: tbird89]
#114909 - 09/29/05 05:26 AM (24.255.140.173)

tbird, playing since you were 6 isn't a good measure of BT playing time, that's only 9 years! Granted, 60% of your life, but still only 9 years

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Re: what's BT [Re: Wraith]
#114913 - 09/29/05 07:22 AM (139.174.165.124)

TB is not only a noob in neveron, but also a noob IRL.

but don't worry TB, this will change, with time.
just wait and drink a cup of tea.

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Re: what's BT [Re: sdog]
#114932 - 09/29/05 02:40 PM (67.149.34.124)

lol, I'm starting to like you Sdoc.

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Re: what's BT [Re: Wraith]
#114946 - 09/29/05 06:58 PM (69.167.170.222)

9 years IS alot of time for me. what i'm trying to say is that i've been playing since early childhood, and some of my most happy moments of childhood consist of me blowing the shit outta my older brother and dad in BT. and yeah, it's not that long, but you know someone is dedicated when they memorized the weapon range tables for BT before their multiplication tables lol.

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Re: what's BT [Re: tbird89]
#114975 - 09/30/05 02:14 PM (24.102.233.29)

ha.
my dad would never play in any game that involes weapons of any kind. and nobody i know and nobody who knows anyone i know plays this game so it would frankly be a waste of money to get it for me.

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Re: what's BT [Re: fredwhodead1]
#114976 - 09/30/05 02:22 PM (202.156.6.84)

there's always Megamek.

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Re: what's BT [Re: MatthewAce]
#114979 - 09/30/05 02:42 PM (68.102.198.47)

Yeah Megamek is pretty sweet. Great for learning some of the basics.

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Re: what's BT [Re: Kanil]
#114984 - 09/30/05 03:33 PM (156.34.35.129)

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LAMs are dead. Seo, agree with me!

That they are. They are as dead as TBird will be when I get his coords.

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Re: what's BT [Re: Seo]
#114998 - 09/30/05 09:45 PM (69.167.170.222)

seo, i thought you allready had my co-ords. hmmm, if your serious i can PM them to you

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Re: what's BT [Re: tbird89]
#115020 - 10/01/05 02:19 PM (67.149.34.124)

I got em. If anyone wants Tbirds coords just ask adn you can have. Also if you want mine just ask Tbird and I'm sure he'll do the same.

The toast gave me Tbirds coords. adn I'm pretty sure the "revenge" led by "backstab" tortured my chocolate into giving my coords to Tbird.

PS: Tbird you german sucks. Bet you can't speak it for shit either.

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Re: what's BT [Re: Sesshomeru]
#115068 - 10/02/05 12:06 PM (24.102.233.29)

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Re: what's BT [Re: fredwhodead1]
#115072 - 10/02/05 01:13 PM (69.167.170.222)

lol sess, i laughed my ass off when you thought that all of IZW was plotting to kill you lol, i was thinking "is he really THAT dumb? i mean, theres only one person in all of IZW that WOULD want him dead lol"

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Re: what's BT [Re: tbird89]
#115075 - 10/02/05 01:33 PM (24.102.233.29)

I still dont see anything wrong with my grenade idea, though i kinda get the rest of fit

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Re: what's BT [Re: fredwhodead1]
#115087 - 10/02/05 02:20 PM (69.167.170.222)

i'm not sure grenades would do to much to a battle mech or vehichle. granades are more anti personel devices. besides, you expect randy to go and figure out to code THAT in?

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Re: what's BT [Re: tbird89]
#115088 - 10/02/05 02:29 PM (24.102.233.29)

grenades arnt really anti inf devices. Some are made to take out tanks and helies.
plus we are talking about the future.

ps. Ghost recon 2 is the best FPS i have ever played...yes better than halo but only on x box

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Re: what's BT [Re: fredwhodead1]
#115093 - 10/02/05 02:56 PM (84.24.165.226)

Grenades against heli's? Well like any plane they're quite vulnerable and it could do something, problem is throwing then high enough.
Unless you talk about rifle grenades, or grenade launcher grenades.

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Re: what's BT [Re: Toontje]
#115101 - 10/02/05 05:00 PM (24.102.233.29)

yeah they aint heavy, not as heavy as rifles any way plus we are talking about the future they could have auto propell grenades, like in area 51(the game duh)

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Re: what's BT [Re: fredwhodead1]
#115102 - 10/02/05 05:22 PM (84.24.165.226)

The game universe is post 2nd dark age-like. So a lot of knowledge of the ancients has been lost, and only recently recovering (something reneseance-like).

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Re: what's BT [Re: fredwhodead1]
#115104 - 10/02/05 08:39 PM (67.64.207.251)

"ps. Ghost recon 2 is the best FPS i have ever played...yes better than halo but only on x box"

I feel so sad for you......go play HL2 (Half Life 2), and see the glory that it holds.....please....before you call Ghost Recon 2 the best FPS you have ever played again....go look and see....and then make sure you have Steam so you can see teh absolute GLORY that is Day of Defeat Source (part of HL2, but only available through the Steam download, and daaaaaaamn is it pretty).....and keep your eyes peeled, as TFC 2 Source is coming.....

And if you have played HL2 already, and still feel this way, you have no taste, and I [pity you.

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Re: what's BT [Re: Mortimus_Jones]
#115106 - 10/02/05 09:57 PM (69.167.170.222)

mort, i'm gonna have to classify that as spam

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Re: what's BT [Re: tbird89]
#115124 - 10/03/05 05:45 AM (139.174.246.98)

i've started to play ghost recon 1 about half a year ago. it's nice, but a bit to arcade style. from what i read gr2 is even worse. more like halo then a tactical fps.

operation flashpoint still rulez. never seen so much high quality community made addons, with so much details and realism, in any other game.

Armed Assault, an advanced game - including the old opf, elements of VBS1 the military training program, and completely new stuff - will be released this autumn or winter. most of the community addons will be easily portable to ArmA

*sdoc throws a red herring to tbird.

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Re: what's BT [Re: sdog]
#115146 - 10/03/05 08:51 AM (69.167.170.222)

BF2= ownage

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Re: what's BT? BT = "BattleTech"? Or ...? [Warning, may contain sarcasm and such!] [Re: tbird89]
#115156 - 10/03/05 11:27 AM (172.179.211.21)

"What's BT?"

BT = "BattleTech", an ancient tabletop wargame, once upon a time pretty popular amongst younger people, these days some of the younger people from the past have grown older, but they're still playing the game, well, at least from time to time.

BT = "BullyTech" (TM and Copyright: NeverSayNever), apparently an extremely popular style of gameplay amongst some groups of Nev players. Basically it's about joining the currently biggest team/faction of LW bullies and attacking smaller teams/factions while threatening the smaller teams/factions with massive gangbangs if they don't play by the rules set up and enforced by the biggest team of bullies.

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Re: what's BT [Re: Mortimus_Jones]
#115170 - 10/03/05 02:36 PM (24.102.233.29)

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"ps. Ghost recon 2 is the best FPS i have ever played...yes better than halo but only on x box"

I feel so sad for you......go play HL2 (Half Life 2), and see the glory that it holds.....please....before you call Ghost Recon 2 the best FPS you have ever played again....go look and see....and then make sure you have Steam so you can see teh absolute GLORY that is Day of Defeat Source (part of HL2, but only available through the Steam download, and daaaaaaamn is it pretty).....and keep your eyes peeled, as TFC 2 Source is coming.....

And if you have played HL2 already, and still feel this way, you have no taste, and I [pity you.

i like ghost 2 cause you got a whole team, and its more realistic than half life 2. IN half life u can get shot like 10 times and still live. In Ghost 2 u got 2 shots, only 1 if to the head.

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Re: what's BT [Re: fredwhodead1]
#115186 - 10/03/05 05:44 PM (69.167.170.222)

like i said before, BF2 beats both of em

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Re: what's BT [Re: tbird89]
#115192 - 10/03/05 07:53 PM (142.167.81.224)

BF2 has inherited all the CS 1337-d00ds that made it so horrible to play online. Therefore it sucks. This thread shows the mentality of BF2 players if you dare check it out http://www.forumplanet.com/planetbattlefield/topic.asp?fid=5536&tid=1739633&p=1

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Re: what's BT [Re: Seo]
#115210 - 10/04/05 04:43 AM (139.174.165.124)

as we were talking about tactical shooters, and not about arcade stile jump and run games with assault riffles, we can ignore BF, BF2 and CS.

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Re: what's BT [Re: tbird89]
#115244 - 10/04/05 03:58 PM (67.64.207.251)

Nah, its Sausage, better tasting and more usefull. And as far as spam goes tbird, you got me beat by a long ways, TYVM.

And BF2 is a fun game, though I still prefer the Rag Doll models they added to HL2 (as well as DoD now), as it adds so much more to killing people. Nothing like launching a body through the air with a grenade after shooting them in the upper chest/head and watching it do a back flip.

Gives me warm fuzzys just thinking about it.

I dont play FPS games for realism, as even in GR2, its a pretty fine line between "Thats so much more realistic than that other game", and if I were going for a more "realistic" game, would have to go with the US army one thats been out for a bit, as it seems to handle that area (from my limited play with it) better than most games on the market right now. Besides, its a game. I am a bigger fan of "Oh....preeeeetty" than I am of "Wow, thats just like what would happen in real life"

. Give me visual stimulus any day over realism, and you will have me playing for quite some time.

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Re: what's BT [Re: Wraith]
#115892 - 10/11/05 04:51 PM (24.102.233.29)

ya well ur mom is spam

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Re: what's BT [Re: fredwhodead1]
#155979 - 08/11/09 02:18 AM (66.67.55.200)

not sure why this post popped to the top again...my guess that same spammer crap of recent issue.

ignorre this post

nothing to see

move along now

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Re: what's BT [Re: ShadowMasterCM]
#155991 - 08/11/09 07:20 PM (210.86.1.168)

I blame shadowmaster!

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Re: what's BT [Re: buc]
#155996 - 08/12/09 05:28 AM (147.160.136.10)

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I blame shadowmaster!

Buc, are you going anywhere with these recent set of posts? Random disruptive postings violates posting rule 6.

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Re: what's BT [Re: Cray]
#156034 - 08/14/09 01:57 AM (24.19.231.129)

Say what? After nine years a sarna administrator finally pays attention to these Nev forums and they go after buc's silly posts?

I can understand if you don't know any of the people that have throughout history posted in Sarna, but actual trolls are blatantly and easily identificable here, just as they are most places. I can guarantee you that no Neveron player that utilizes these forums reads (or read) buc as a troll. Silly perhaps. He is that. But not a troll.

Not to step on any toes, Cray, but it's really not doing Neveron's community any favors to basically tell one of the five people that still play to cease and desist their posting if those posts lack offense. At least they still visit.

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Re: what's BT [Re: Katrar]
#156038 - 08/14/09 05:28 AM (147.160.136.10)

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Say what? After nine years a sarna administrator finally pays attention to these Nev forums and they go after buc's silly posts?

Yes, exactly, since buc's burst of responses to ShadowmasterCM looked a bit like baiting. Other posts, even louder griping about Neveron, were more within the posting rules.

To be clear, there was no ban for buc, no official written warning (which would've been sent by PM instead of posted publicly), no deleting of his posts, just a minor "remember the posting rules" statement. A little nudge like that shouldn't hurt anyone who's been on the internet more than a week and if buc was a entirely innocent then there's still no problem - there's no record being kept of little reminders like that.

Edited by Cray (08/14/09 05:46 AM)

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Re: what's BT [Re: Cray]
#156040 - 08/14/09 02:47 PM (24.19.231.129)

Cool. It was just a little surprising to see green here, for this, in comparison to the many times past we'd have liked to see you for more compelling posters. =)

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Re: what's BT [Re: Katrar]
#156041 - 08/14/09 08:19 PM (68.205.198.74)

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Cool. It was just a little surprising to see green here, for this, in comparison to the many times past we'd have liked to see you for more compelling posters. =)

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Re: what's BT [Re: Cray]
#156046 - 08/15/09 04:45 PM (173.171.168.17)

maybe you should make a wws complaint forums section? most of these complaints are true and have facts behind them. to simple ban or delete people because you dont agree with posts is rather 1 sided. due to the fact wws does not at all let us know whats going on with neveron half the time is due to the complaining. so heres the facts wws does not talk to the player base hardly at if at all? so what needs to be done to improve player base moral? wws need to be more active in talking to the player base on whats in store for nev if anything at all. bottom line when and if he pops in chat all you a-holes do is jump all over him about bs. i my self have legit tickets over 1 yr old. so yeah cray people come on here to bithc becaouse their is not other way to try and get a hold of wws. im all ears about some other supposed way players who are pissed off are supposed to react to the state of the game. and im no noob been playing neveron for over 7yrs.

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Re: what's BT [Re: cbtgod]
#156048 - 08/15/09 06:34 PM (68.205.198.74)

cbtgod, I think you've misread something I posted. I hope the following post, in its entirety, clarifies matters for you.

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maybe you should make a wws complaint forums section? most of these complaints are true and have facts behind them.

I just got done saying I don't mind the stronger complaints against Neveron's operations because they do not violate the posting rules. Attack the ideas, not the person. Don't post just to stir up trouble. etc. The guidelines let you say some caustic things and vent your grievances. There's just a few rules meant to keep those from escalating into a flame war.

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to simple ban or delete people because you dont agree with posts is rather 1 sided.

I haven't banned anyone because I disagree with their posts. In fact, I've only banned one non-spambot poster, and that was because he kept creating fake accounts (including in the middle of a 1-week ban for posting politics), posted on real life politics, and directly insulted other posters. I've never banned anyone else (unless you count spambots).

Actually, I've never even issued a formal warning to anyone else, cbtgod. I think I'm up to a grand total of three "watch where the thread's going" posts.

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due to the fact wws does not at all let us know whats going on with neveron half the time is due to the complaining.

I don't care about the complaints (or any other discussion) so long as the discussions here are within the guidelines of the posting rules.

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so heres the facts wws does not talk to the player base hardly at if at all?

I don't care so long as the discussions here are within the guidelines of the posting rules.

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so what needs to be done to improve player base moral? wws need to be more active in talking to the player base on whats in store for nev if anything at all.

I don't care so long as the discussions here are within the guidelines of the posting rules.

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bottom line when and if he pops in chat all you a-holes do is jump all over him about bs. i my self have legit tickets over 1 yr old.

I don't care so long as the discussions here are within the guidelines of the posting rules.

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so yeah cray people come on here to bithc

And I said - in this very thread - those sorts of posts were acceptable.

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becaouse their is not other way to try and get a hold of wws. im all ears about some other supposed way players who are pissed off are supposed to react to the state of the game. and im no noob been playing neveron for over 7yrs.

Well, you could say something like, "I'm fucking pissed at the state of Neveron. I think the apathy and lack of communication sucks balls. I have tickets over 1 year old and would like them addressed." That's a perfectly acceptable statement within the posting guidelines.

It's when you...

1) Make frivolous statements that don't contribute to the thread
2) Troll
3) Directly insult a person instead of the idea (e.g., "You're a stinky head" instead of "This lack of communication is a stinky head")
4) Violate other posting rules

...that I step in. If you stay within the posting rules, I don't care. There's plenty of room for venting in the posting guidelines. Use that room if it makes you feel better - that's what it's there for.

Edited by Cray (08/15/09 09:36 PM)

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Re: what's BT [Re: Cray]
#156050 - 08/16/09 12:41 PM (24.19.231.129)

I think you misinterpreted what happened, CBT. Nobody was banned or anything. Cray is just a (relatively) new mod that was unable to read a goof's banter for what it was. No big deal.

Any forums belonging to a game in which the community has such a deeply rooted contempt and hostility towards its developers (richly deserved in this case) is bound to be a challenge to any moderator. Add to that the fact that these forums have never, until now, garnered the mediative attention of a Sarna administrator (though mb and SM as local moderators have been helpful), and there is the possibility of future misunderstandings.

Everyone just needs to be open, reasonable and respectful and this dead game's (nearly) dead forums will be fine.

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Re: what's BT [Re: Katrar]
#156056 - 08/17/09 06:47 AM (173.171.168.17)

perhaps so.... and ill leave it at that.

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Re: what's BT [Re: cbtgod]
#156188 - 08/27/09 01:14 PM (66.67.54.45)

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Well, you could say something like, "I'm fucking pissed at the state of Neveron. I think the apathy and lack of communication sucks balls. I have tickets over 1 year old and would like them addressed." That's a perfectly acceptable statement within the posting guidelines.

Personally, Id rather not see, let alone encourage, this type of profanity, at least not on this side of the forums...

There is no reason you cant say what you want using more intelligent words.

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Re: what's BT [Re: ShadowMasterCM]
#156197 - 08/27/09 03:34 PM (173.168.115.68)

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Personally, Id rather not see, let alone encourage, this type of profanity, at least not on this side of the forums...

There is no reason you cant say what you want using more intelligent words.

Until the profanity is directed toward a person, there's no need to unduly restrain speech. If someone wants to look like an idiot, that's their choice.

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