Gravewalker
Corporal
Reged: 04/27/04
Posts: 80
Loc: Ohio, USA
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Re: Does Neveron need a new money sink? - New research toys?
[Re: MEX]
#111938 - 08/09/05 07:31 AM (66.195.167.5)
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Hmmm, I have the perfect Sink.
"Give to the Noobs Foundation" which will be treated similarly as the UN's "Oil for Food Program" with Iraq.
As Chief Planning Officer of GNF, you may forward any extra moneys. For further information, please PM.
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Whalefsh
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Reged: 01/31/03
Posts: 1128
Loc: Dundee, Scotland
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Re: Does Neveron need a new money sink? - New research toys?
[Re: Gravewalker]
#111939 - 08/09/05 07:35 AM (134.36.5.218)
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Does that mean you keep all the money while the noobs get poorer?
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Whalefsh
What power have you got? Where did you get it from? In whose interests do you excercise it?
To whom are you accountable? How do we get rid of you? - Tony Benn
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Someone
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Reged: 01/05/03
Posts: 389
Loc: Sweden
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Re: Does Neveron need a new money sink? - New research toys?
[Re: Whalefsh]
#111942 - 08/09/05 12:33 PM (62.20.162.225)
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lol, good one whalefsh.
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Gravewalker
Corporal
Reged: 04/27/04
Posts: 80
Loc: Ohio, USA
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Re: Does Neveron need a new money sink? - New research toys?
[Re: Someone]
#111947 - 08/09/05 02:40 PM (66.195.167.5)
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Hehe. Not all. But most.
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Antoni
Sergeant Major
Reged: 04/09/03
Posts: 289
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Re: Does Neveron need a new money sink? - New research toys?
[Re: Gravewalker]
#111958 - 08/10/05 12:07 AM (170.131.131.254)
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I personally don't think 2 billion dollars is an enormous amount of cash for a level 10+. I mean, look at the mech market, a AWS-Q can go for a good 800 million. When an IMP drops it's about a cool 1 billion. When those large empires get attacked by pirates and they lose 1 or 2 good mechs, it could run them a couple of billion to replace them off the normal market. Hell, replacing a company of assault tanks could run you a billion.
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Klavis
Sergeant
Reged: 04/28/05
Posts: 116
Loc: ohio
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Re: Does Neveron need a new money sink? - New research toys?
[Re: Antoni]
#111967 - 08/10/05 02:46 AM (198.30.112.4)
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I personally don't think 2 billion dollars is an enormous amount of cash for a level 10+. I mean, look at the mech market, a AWS-Q can go for a good 800 million. When an IMP drops it's about a cool 1 billion. When those large empires get attacked by pirates and they lose 1 or 2 good mechs, it could run them a couple of billion to replace them off the normal market. Hell, replacing a company of assault tanks could run you a billion.
True, but they quickly recover any money spent. How much does a level 10+ empire make per nevday? Per real day? Yes, I'd say that they quickly recover any money spent.
So um, how about this? If you are a level 10+, you can get Randy's undivided attention for 30 min if you are willing to part with 2 bilion. LOL! JK...
Food for oil...what about some sort of mentorship program? Not the whole "promo code" idea, but something else, where they "fund" a newbie empire in exchange for certain other "intangibles" such as a slight bonus in their research, or something along those lines that does not in any way directly enhance their income? The noob that is being sponsored would also in turn gain certain bonuses, such as perhaps a small stipend per nevday maybe a slight bonus in their research, or maybe their building crews receive training in how to build infra a little bit more efficiently (bonus on bp). It doesnt have to be that EXACTLY, but you get the general idea i think...
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"Those who have crossed
With direct eyes, to death's other kingdom
Remember us - if at all - not as lost
Violent souls, but only
As the hollow men..."
- T.S. Eliot, The Hollow Men
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sdog
Lieutenant Colonel
Reged: 09/01/03
Posts: 1787
Loc: europe
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Re: Does Neveron need a new money sink? - New research toys?
[Re: Klavis]
#111969 - 08/10/05 02:57 AM (139.174.246.98)
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i'm all for supporting newbies with money.
my lvl8 empire can receive 250M from other faction leaders. (i have to face it, i'm playing for more then 3 years now, but practicaly, i'm still a newbie [25kish empire ID])
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hobbit
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Reged: 01/26/04
Posts: 196
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Re: Does Neveron need a new money sink? - New research toys?
[Re: sdog]
#112004 - 08/10/05 12:33 PM (134.134.136.2)
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You people that are calling for a money sink for larger empires have no idea how much it costs to war at those levels. That's not even factoring the costs of replacing battalions of vehicles every time pirates hit...
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Klavis
Sergeant
Reged: 04/28/05
Posts: 116
Loc: ohio
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Re: Does Neveron need a new money sink? - New research toys?
[Re: hobbit]
#112017 - 08/11/05 01:21 AM (198.30.112.4)
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You people that are calling for a money sink for larger empires have no idea how much it costs to war at those levels. That's not even factoring the costs of replacing battalions of vehicles every time pirates hit...
actually, i do have a very good idea. I better, or else I need to get rid of my lvl 8. 
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Klavis
"Those who have crossed
With direct eyes, to death's other kingdom
Remember us - if at all - not as lost
Violent souls, but only
As the hollow men..."
- T.S. Eliot, The Hollow Men
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Nimon
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Reged: 06/02/03
Posts: 819
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Re: Does Neveron need a new money sink? - New research toys?
[Re: Klavis]
#112032 - 08/11/05 08:43 AM (64.95.219.124)
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Well my Faction mates have just helped me beat the 527K pirates that hit my empire, now if it was not for those guys being able to keep the pressure on the pirates for the 24 plus hours we took to beat them (if it was me alone it would have easily took a week or more to beat them, and the losses to my defenses would have been much more than what was actually done {one medium mech, about a battalion and a half of tanks, plus loads of stealth towers}) Now before you all say.. "Well level 13 empires have lots of stuff" my defenses in each of my cities is equal to any other level 8 out there (i.e. my 1K cities have as much as the other people with 1K cities) diffrence is, level 8 and 9 empires have 20 groups of pirates drop (fewer groups just mean that each gruop beat makes the threat to your city less). Level 10, 11, 12, and especially 13 have MULTIPLE 1K cities, and with that when pirates drop we have on average 150 groups, each with the ability to take a city (and anyone who has lost a city to pirates knows that pirates plunder, i.e. building destruction, is greater and then you lose more when you retake the city which causes more loss of income to rebuild and the short term loss of those buildings). Killing even 80 of the groups does not reduce the threat of losing a city. And many Larger empires are spread over a larger area so you can not concentrate your counter attack forces on them. The ONLY saving grace is that pirates are on AI MOST of the time (Yes Randy and Co., do pilot from time to time for the pirates) and because of this they have little tactical sense. I personalyl would like to see pirates have huge negative int so they can not lag out phases, vs other peoples empire and such by all means let them lag while on AI, but I can lose several hours (cumulative) as you wait for pirates to move at the end of thier int. If there could be a way to have pirates all have negative int so those phases are sped up that would go a long ways (after all pirates was for killing inactive people from what I rememeber, not kill active people with boredom).
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Tigre
Lieutenant Colonel
Reged: 02/10/03
Posts: 1795
Loc: Atlanta, GA
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Re: Does Neveron need a new money sink?
[Re: FeaR]
#112049 - 08/11/05 01:50 PM (12.47.79.2)
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Removal of the 175 and 225 maint rates really made this situation worse. with older empires, you have a lot of 0/0/0/0/0 pilots with questionable training levels, so you don't risk 150 or 200, so at 125, your income is higher than you need, undoubtedly.
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Ipsa Scientia Potestas Est
- Francis Bacon
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Wraith
Major
Reged: 03/17/03
Posts: 1238
Loc: Wichita, KS, USA
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Re: Does Neveron need a new money sink? - New research toys?
[Re: Nimon]
#112085 - 08/11/05 03:37 PM (24.255.140.173)
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I agree Nimon, my last pirate hit (last weekend) a lot of the times the pirates were getting 15 INT and such...
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Tigre
Lieutenant Colonel
Reged: 02/10/03
Posts: 1795
Loc: Atlanta, GA
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Re: Does Neveron need a new money sink? - New research toys?
[Re: Wraith]
#112109 - 08/12/05 06:08 AM (12.47.79.2)
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but, during pirates, I just move first and let them move. You already know their move will be max speed straight at you, so you can plan, move first, and not worry (until they get close and you are avoiding firing arcs, etc.)
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Ipsa Scientia Potestas Est
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Whalefsh
Captain
Reged: 01/31/03
Posts: 1128
Loc: Dundee, Scotland
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Re: Does Neveron need a new money sink? - New research toys?
[Re: Tigre]
#112115 - 08/12/05 07:41 AM (134.36.5.235)
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There is also the rats love for chasing random units. Gotta love facing rat inf when they are chasing a fast mech. Line the LRM mechs up on a ridge and decimate.
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What power have you got? Where did you get it from? In whose interests do you excercise it?
To whom are you accountable? How do we get rid of you? - Tony Benn
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Egwene
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Reged: 08/06/03
Posts: 201
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Re: Does Neveron need a new money sink? - New research toys?
[Re: Nimon]
#112131 - 08/12/05 02:32 PM (69.244.147.181)
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AMEN MY BROTHER!!!!
lvl 13 pirates suck ass! the lag of them moving and then the HUGE neg. skill they usually have.
I know TTI has had to replace many a battalion of vehs due to pirates, so before you all say the higher levels have it easy, check again!
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LiRa
Sergeant Major
Reged: 06/12/03
Posts: 369
Loc: Canada
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Re: Does Neveron need a new money sink? - New research toys?
[Re: Egwene]
#112215 - 08/14/05 08:45 PM (65.93.94.178)
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You could try researching or warring Fear? Or maybe you could start your own faction. In short, you could do something and that would drain your money.
I'm level 9 and I NEVER have enough money. Not even close.
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Tigre
Lieutenant Colonel
Reged: 02/10/03
Posts: 1795
Loc: Atlanta, GA
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Re: Does Neveron need a new money sink? - New research toys?
[Re: LiRa]
#112229 - 08/15/05 07:47 AM (12.47.79.2)
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Well, there's a difference between a large 11, and a 9, like between a large 6 and a 4. . .
Though FeaR, tell your DP sellers that when you're capped, to call me.
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- Tigre
Ipsa Scientia Potestas Est
- Francis Bacon
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Yoshikazu
Newbie
Reged: 08/16/05
Posts: 7
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Re: Does Neveron need a new money sink? - New research toys?
[Re: Tigre]
#112298 - 08/16/05 04:34 PM (67.162.216.231)
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all uber rich empires are encouraged to sink money into the help-a-noob foundation. send all checks payable to the empire "Cybertron" and help feed a hungry war machine.
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Sesshomeru
Lieutenant
Reged: 11/06/04
Posts: 518
Loc: Michigan,USA
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Re: Does Neveron need a new money sink? - New research toys?
[Re: Yoshikazu]
#112303 - 08/16/05 09:02 PM (67.149.34.124)
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lol, you must be dumb as hell dude. Get ready to for War cause I'm pretty sure Tigre might come after you. He hates ppl who promote their promo coes in public and people such as you.
But seriously don't post your emp name in the forums cauyse that just makes you a target.
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FeaR
Corporal
Reged: 03/23/04
Posts: 57
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Re: Does Neveron need a new money sink? - New research toys?
[Re: LiRa]
#112304 - 08/16/05 09:35 PM (24.128.59.25)
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Well i do add research but i can only make TCs as fast as i can buy the dp and crews build them. I actually have 3 tcs being built but takes time. We all know that warring with a lvl 11 is not as easy as going to the unfaction list and finding a target. Usually have to either wait for an alliance war or go start one.
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Yoshikazu
Newbie
Reged: 08/16/05
Posts: 7
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Re: Does Neveron need a new money sink? - New research toys?
[Re: FeaR]
#112323 - 08/17/05 12:34 PM (67.162.216.231)
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that's not a promo code. plus, my empire is so crappy you would just be waisting your money.
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Yoshikazu
Newbie
Reged: 08/16/05
Posts: 7
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Re: Does Neveron need a new money sink? - New research toys?
[Re: Yoshikazu]
#112325 - 08/17/05 12:45 PM (67.162.216.231)
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Newbies use promo code " I love chocolate " when starting a new empire
hmmm....who's spamming a promo code on every post he makes? sesshomeru maybe? maybe it's you that's "dumb as hell"?
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Sesshomeru
Lieutenant
Reged: 11/06/04
Posts: 518
Loc: Michigan,USA
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Re: Does Neveron need a new money sink? - New research toys?
[Re: Yoshikazu]
#112352 - 08/17/05 07:22 PM (67.149.34.124)
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I said you were dumb for giving out you empire name not your promo code. REad it more carefully next time. while it is true that i give out my promo code at the first guy that asks I don't do the same with my empire names. The only people that know my empire names are either my allies or I know their emps as well so I can always get revenge.
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Tigre
Lieutenant Colonel
Reged: 02/10/03
Posts: 1795
Loc: Atlanta, GA
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Re: Does Neveron need a new money sink? - New research toys?
[Re: Sesshomeru]
#112375 - 08/18/05 10:03 AM (12.47.79.2)
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however, Tigre tends to not pick on newbies, and encourages people to help newbies become addicted to the game.
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Ipsa Scientia Potestas Est
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LiRa
Sergeant Major
Reged: 06/12/03
Posts: 369
Loc: Canada
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Re: Does Neveron need a new money sink? - New research toys?
[Re: Tigre]
#112384 - 08/18/05 01:37 PM (65.93.94.178)
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When he then starts to pick on them.
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Yoshikazu
Newbie
Reged: 08/16/05
Posts: 7
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Re: Does Neveron need a new money sink? - New research toys?
[Re: LiRa]
#112386 - 08/18/05 02:57 PM (67.162.216.231)
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lol, you must be dumb as hell dude. Get ready to for War cause I'm pretty sure Tigre might come after you. He hates ppl who promote their promo coes in public and people such as you.
hmmm...I don't know how else to read that, no matter how carefully I read it.
take your own advice and read ppl's messages carefully b4 you make an arse out of yourself.
I still can't figure out how you got a promo code out of my original post...but please stop trying to look superior to a "dumb as hell" noob, your giving everyone from Michigan a bad stereotype.
maybe I better stop interacting with the pricks in this "game" least I become one of them. I feel sorry for you sess, I get the impression that you're an online bully cuz IRL your a sad little boy. one to many swirlies as a highschool boy? sorry, you don't seem mature enough to be a highschool boy.
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Sesshomeru
Lieutenant
Reged: 11/06/04
Posts: 518
Loc: Michigan,USA
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Re: Does Neveron need a new money sink? - New research toys?
[Re: Yoshikazu]
#112398 - 08/18/05 08:52 PM (67.149.34.124)
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"your giving everyone from Michigan a bad stereotype."
Detroit aleready ahs the worst rep in the US so I'm not hurting any.
By the way you missed the second paragraph when I said the whole now i'm serious and no longer joking. And that you shouldn't post your emp name in the forums. The first paragraph was just an example of why someone might come after you. I wasn't trying to make myself look superior, but actually trying to helpyou out(sort of). Ohh by the way I don't need to make myself look superior to anyone, especially not a noob. there's no challenge there.WE were all newbies once and I think I still am but I'm not a noob.
But now I just plain hate you and if I had a lvl 2 I'd hit your emp.
The promo code was another example do you undwerstand the "and people such as you" part. Send money to my empire wich is(blank) kinda stupid cause if someone get pissed at you they know where to hit.
PS: and oh yea it makes you a target for noob raiders. They attack your emp cause they know you can't put up any real resistance cause u a noob.
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-Artemis Entreri
Edited by Sesshomeru (08/18/05 08:53 PM)
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Seo
Captain
Reged: 07/28/03
Posts: 805
Loc: Spam HQ
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Re: Does Neveron need a new money sink? - New research toys?
[Re: Sesshomeru]
#112401 - 08/18/05 09:35 PM (156.34.83.80)
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Silly Sess, there's no sense getting angry with a noob who has no sense of humour (well from what I've seen so far, for all I know he could become the next Chet) , now if he's a successful player with no sense of humour then feel free get in a scrape with him (as long as long as you don't drag me and the whole commonwealth into it with you) as he should know better.
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-Seo
For a nice cash bonus in new empires use the promo code "Seo is God"
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Yoshikazu
Newbie
Reged: 08/16/05
Posts: 7
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Re: Does Neveron need a new money sink? - New research toys?
[Re: Seo]
#112403 - 08/19/05 01:53 AM (67.162.216.231)
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I have a great sence of humor seo, but not when the first reply to my first post in a new game is someone telling me that I'm dumb as hell. yeah, I'm ROTFLMAO...
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Kanil
Captain
Reged: 03/13/03
Posts: 1028
Loc: Head Chef, Archon's Kitchen
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Re: Does Neveron need a new money sink? - New research toys?
[Re: Yoshikazu]
#112404 - 08/19/05 02:44 AM (69.171.193.112)
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Don't mind Sess, Yoshikazu.
He's just an angry/confused Lyran/Wobbie/Spammer/HoC Agent/apprentice chef/etc.
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- Clanners, and their whacked view of the world.
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