POLL: Cheating *DELETED*

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Karagin
02/25/02 01:59 PM
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Karagin

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Bob_Richter
02/25/02 02:05 PM
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To clarify, I answered the question asked by your poll "Cheating: Good or Bad? (Yes or No?)" The answer is YES, cheating IS good OR bad.


-Bob (The Magnificent) Richter

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Diablo
02/25/02 02:08 PM
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I seldom play with anyone who is caught cheating. but then again. I don't have many friends who are willing to sit with me for an hour playing Btech
"whats that bluish fuzzy thing on your head?"
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02/25/02 02:11 PM
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Wait a minute. You ask one thing, and then poll for another. Make up your mind.

I will certainly keep playing with a cheater. I do not think cheating is a good thing.
Mike Miller, Materials Engineer

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Karagin
02/25/02 02:15 PM
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How can you play with a cheater yet say it's not a good thing? How about you pick on stance and stick with it.
Karagin

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Karagin
02/25/02 02:17 PM
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Can you please refrain from commenting on anything I post, since you can't carry on a serious discussion without cause it to go off topic if you don't happen to agree with it.

Thank you.
Karagin

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Karagin
02/25/02 02:21 PM
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Thank you both, but understand I don't care about debeating this, I want a Yes or No choice made to the main question of the poll, NOT whether or not you think there are better ways to deal with them, save that for the thread entitled Question... up in the General Thread.
Karagin

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NathanKell
02/25/02 02:26 PM
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"main question of the poll"
Quite.
So....what is it? (you have about three)
Is it....
1. "Would you keep playing Battletech with someone who is caught cheating during battle:"
2. "Cheating is good"
3. "Cheating is bad"
-NathanKell, BT Space Wars
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02/25/02 02:26 PM
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My stance? Alright, this is my stance:

I have certain priorities in life. First and foremost is maintaining friendships. Second is having fun. For the purposes of this discussion, third is getting high and mighty about morals.

Because I value friendship over fun, I'm willing to stop having fun to preserve my friendships - such as dropping a game of Everquest to help a friend move into an apartment. Because I value fun over the moral evilness baditude of cheating, I'm willing to keep playing an RPG after a friend "neglects" to mark off a few boxes of armor, particularly because I can probably have fun razzing him for cheating. No doubt I can get him to buy the six-pack of beer because he cheated.

Wait - reprioritization:
1) Friendship
2) Fun
3) Beer
4) Morals (including cheating = bad)

Priorities. Learn the concept. I put more weight on certain things than others. Running around screaming and declaring "I'm not gonna play with you because you cheated" is just so damn immature.
Mike Miller, Materials Engineer

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Karagin
02/25/02 02:27 PM
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Read the posting...it's there..in case you missed it's in the TEXT part of the post I hope you can find it without any further help. Or should I draw a map?
Karagin

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02/25/02 02:28 PM
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Oh, come on. He was just being humorous. He wasn't snide or prick that time. The better man would've ignored the comment, and the really better man would've laughed at the joke.
Mike Miller, Materials Engineer

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Karagin
02/25/02 02:28 PM
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Let me try this so you can understand things:

The bold question is the title of the poll, the question is up in the text. Now do you need a map or is it clear?
Karagin

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NathanKell
02/25/02 02:28 PM
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So, in other words, I should simply totally disregard the title of the poll?
-NathanKell, BT Space Wars
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02/25/02 02:29 PM
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Please, a map would be appreciated. Do you want us to answer the question in the text, or answer the poll? You have 2 separate, somewhat contradictory questions in your original post in this thread.
Mike Miller, Materials Engineer

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Karagin
02/25/02 02:29 PM
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Once again:
Thank you both, but understand I don't care about debeating this, I want a Yes or No choice made to the main question of the poll, NOT whether or not you think there are better ways to deal with them, save that for the thread entitled Question... up in the General Thread.
Karagin

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02/25/02 02:30 PM
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Yabbut the poll title and poll question are about different things. It's easy to get confused.
Mike Miller, Materials Engineer

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Karagin
02/25/02 02:30 PM
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YES! The bold text is the title of the Poll NOT the question.
Karagin

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NathanKell
02/25/02 02:30 PM
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{ot}Wow, this is nearly real-time chat...{/ot}
-NathanKell, BT Space Wars
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Karagin
02/25/02 02:31 PM
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Once more THE question is in the text! NOT THE BOLD TITLE TO THE POLL.

Karagin

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NathanKell
02/25/02 02:31 PM
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Then, of couse, this begs me to ask a question....why have it, especially when it bears no relation to the actual question (since your actual question has nothing to do with whether cheating is "good or bad," just what one would do in a situation where someone is cheating).
-NathanKell, BT Space Wars
Question with boldness even the existence of a God; because, if there be one, he must more approve of the homage of reason, than that of blind-folded fear.
Thomas Jefferson
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02/25/02 02:31 PM
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If you didn't want a debate, you shouldn't have ask the question, "How can you play with a cheater yet say it's not a good thing?" and then told me to, "How about you pick on stance and stick with it."

I mean, that was just ASKING for debate.

And do you want me to answer the big bold poll title, or the question in the body of the post?
Mike Miller, Materials Engineer

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Karagin
02/25/02 02:32 PM
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Really? Well then let me expalin it again:

YES! The bold text is the title of the Poll NOT the question.
Karagin

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02/25/02 02:32 PM
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Hey, thanks for the map!
Mike Miller, Materials Engineer

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Karagin
02/25/02 02:33 PM
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With him and few others around here it's hard to tell...forgive me if I for once don't want his kind of humor in a topic.
Karagin

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02/25/02 02:34 PM
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Oh, I got it, I got it. Calm down.

Yes, I'd keep playing with the cheater. I have higher priorities than getting huffy about cheating.

Like using his cheating as an excuse to make him pay for the next beer run.
Mike Miller, Materials Engineer

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Karagin
02/25/02 02:35 PM
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Idea for you:

Next time I will let you post the poll after I send the info to you, then you can do my taxes for me, make sure my insurance is paid, as well as my rent, and then make sure to remind to make sure I get my girlfriend her Valintines present since I was out of town last weekend. And while you are at it can you go get some burgers for me?

Why are you finding fault with this? Is it so hard to simple pick an answer based on what is there?
Karagin

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Karagin
02/25/02 02:36 PM
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Hint to your last question:

READ THE OTHER THREADS BELOW!
Karagin

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02/25/02 02:39 PM
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Take your own medicine. I replied that I had gotten it and voted.
Mike Miller, Materials Engineer

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NathanKell
02/25/02 02:40 PM
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"Why are you finding fault with this? Is it so hard to simple pick an answer based on what is there?"
Yes, when you put up THREE QUESTIONS.
And get huffy when we ask you which one is the bloody one we should answer!
-NathanKell, BT Space Wars
Question with boldness even the existence of a God; because, if there be one, he must more approve of the homage of reason, than that of blind-folded fear.
Thomas Jefferson
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02/25/02 02:40 PM
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>Why are you finding fault with this? Is it so hard to simple pick an answer based on what is there?

Because you posted 2 mutually exclusive things with often different answers and confused the readers. That's what we were (until you clarified matters) finding fault with.
Mike Miller, Materials Engineer

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Karagin
02/25/02 02:43 PM
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I saw that...and it was while I was typing the reply to your reply...sorry if I am not perfect and can't read what you are typing while you are typing it.
Karagin

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Karagin
02/25/02 02:44 PM
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If you can't answer something with a yes or no that is not my fault. I put up the answers I felt merited the question.

And FYI I didn't make the code for the polls, kind of reduanted to have the text and the title the same now isn't it?
Karagin

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Karagin
02/25/02 02:46 PM
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Two differnt things, righ will remember next time to cut and past the whole text into the title so you get it twice to avoid (or is make) confusion.
Karagin

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02/25/02 02:48 PM
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>If you can't answer something with a yes or no that is not my fault

It is when you confuse the matter.

>And FYI I didn't make the code for the polls, kind of reduanted to have the text and the title the same now isn't it?

If they're completely the same, yes, but title and text should at least be on the same topic.
Mike Miller, Materials Engineer

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02/25/02 02:49 PM
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A simple title like, "Cheater Found: Keep Playing?" would've avoided unnecessary repetition.
Mike Miller, Materials Engineer

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Karagin
02/25/02 02:51 PM
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I am glad you folks can do this better then me, so I must now bow before the better persons since my humble attempt is not good enough for the high and mighty.
Karagin

Given time and plenty of paper, a philosopher can prove anything.
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02/25/02 03:03 PM
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Gee, we asked for clarification and offered suggestions, you didn't act on them but stayed stubbornly with your original, and now are unhappy that you've generated enough interest in the question other people are repeating your polls?
Mike Miller, Materials Engineer

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Karagin
02/25/02 03:04 PM
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Stealing is a better word.
Karagin

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NathanKell
02/25/02 03:05 PM
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"Making sense" is a better turn of phrase.
-NathanKell, BT Space Wars
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Karagin
02/25/02 03:05 PM
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Who cares...
Karagin

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02/25/02 03:06 PM
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Term it what you like. You'll now get the results to your question you were after.
Mike Miller, Materials Engineer

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02/25/02 03:08 PM
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You need to work on getting in the last word. When you say, "who cares" after all that emotion you demonstrated elsewhere in the thread, you contradict yourself.
Mike Miller, Materials Engineer

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Karagin
02/25/02 03:09 PM
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Who cares. It's clear that neither poll was good enough for you or the rest so who #^$%#&$^$#& care.
Karagin

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Karagin
02/25/02 03:09 PM
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I knew there was a failing somewhere in the American system of education.
Karagin

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Bob_Richter
02/25/02 09:18 PM
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Absolutely not. You, my friend, need to remove the giant pole from your nether passage and learn to laugh at yourself.

You goofed up. I thought it was funny. I pointed it out to the world so we could all have a good laugh.

You got a problem with that?

Reminded me of a TV news report where they said they had "No idea whether or not " Bin Laden "was dead or alive."

And, of course, due to the way they used the par of conditionals, it is logically impossible for that statement to be true. A man MUST be either dead or alive!
-Bob (The Magnificent) Richter

Assertions made in this post are the humble opinion of Bob.
They are not necessarily statements of fact or decrees from God Himself, unless explicitly and seriously stated to be so.
:)
Bob_Richter
02/25/02 09:19 PM
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Fun is above beer?

You're remarkably philosophically advanced, for a man your age.
-Bob (The Magnificent) Richter

Assertions made in this post are the humble opinion of Bob.
They are not necessarily statements of fact or decrees from God Himself, unless explicitly and seriously stated to be so.
:)
Karagin
02/25/02 09:31 PM
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Where did I goof Bob? Please tell us?

Once again you are trying to instert how you would do something on to someone else.

I did not goof, I posted JUST what I wanted. I am really sorry if your sorry hide and few others around here didn't like or that it wasn't up to your or their high standards, but tough dog crap. If you didn't like how I posted the poll then DON'T reply to or take part in it. But no you nor they won't do that. Nope you would rather trash the topic then just leave it alone and go on to something else.

Let me know when you come down from your high horse...I have something for you...
Karagin

Given time and plenty of paper, a philosopher can prove anything.
Bob_Richter
02/25/02 10:54 PM
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>>>Where did I goof Bob? Please tell us? <<<

I already did. Once again, you have decided not to actually read it.

Oh well.

-Bob (The Magnificent) Richter

Assertions made in this post are the humble opinion of Bob.
They are not necessarily statements of fact or decrees from God Himself, unless explicitly and seriously stated to be so.
:)
BigCol
02/26/02 06:17 AM
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This is funny. Is there a script you guys are using?

Cheers

Col
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I just want your half...

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