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BattleMech Technical Readout

Type/Model: Slug SLG-MG
Tech: Inner Sphere / 3025
Config: Biped BattleMech
Rules: Level 3, Custom design

Mass: 10 tons
Chassis: Standard
Power Plant: 20 Pitban Fusion
Walking Speed: 21,6 km/h
Maximum Speed: 32,4 km/h
Jump Jets: None
Jump Capacity: 0 meters
Armor Type: Standard
Armament:
3 Machine Guns
Manufacturer: (Unknown)
Location: (Unknown)
Communications System: (Unknown)
Targeting & Tracking System: (Unknown)

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==Overview:==
Unlike other 'Mechs, the Slug was not produced for the military.
MEXtech sold the Slug to large companies to serve as a security 'Mech for
their more important installations. An occasional Slug was also sold to law
enforcement agencies for those rare instances when really heavy firepower
would be needed.
Designed as a deterrent to criminals rather than as a machine of war,
the Slug really has no place on the battlefield. The increasing scarcity of
'Mechs, however, has forced many Slugs into military service.


==Capabilities:==
Armed with three SperryBrowning machine guns, the Slug is more than a
match for a crook wielding a slug thrower. Against BattleMechs and most other
combat vehicles, however, the Slug is hopelessly outgunned. The many machine
guns do make it very effective against infantry. Its small size also allows
the Slug to go where larger, more potent 'Mechs could not. For this reason the
Slug is often used in heavily urbanized areas, going into the twisted mazes of
back alleys and side streets to root out infantry units.

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Type/Model: Slug SLG-MG
Mass: 10 tons

Equipment: Crits Mass
Int. Struct.: 19 pts Standard 0 1,00
Engine: 20 Fusion 6 ,50
Walking MP: 2
Running MP: 3
Jumping MP: 0
Heat Sinks: 10 Single 10 ,00
(Heat Sink Loc: 3 LT, 3 RT, 2 LL, 2 RL)
Gyro: 4 1,00
Cockpit, Life Supt., Sensors: 5 3,00
Actuators: L: Sh+UA+LA R: Sh+UA+LA 14 ,00
Armor Factor: 40 pts Standard 0 2,50

Internal Armor
Structure Value
Head: 3 8
Center Torso: 4 5
Center Torso (Rear): 3
L/R Side Torso: 3 4/4
L/R Side Torso (Rear): 2/2
L/R Arm: 1 2/2
L/R Leg: 2 4/4

Weapons and Equipment Loc Heat Ammo Crits Mass
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1 Machine Gun RA 0 100 2 1,00
(Ammo Locations: 1 CT)
1 Machine Gun LA 0 1 ,50
1 Machine Gun CT 0 1 ,50
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TOTALS: 0 43 10,00
Crits & Tons Left: 35 ,00

Calculated Factors:
Total Cost: 723.616 C-Bills
Battle Value: 131
Cost per BV: 5.523,79
Weapon Value: 6 / 6 (Ratio = ,05 / ,05)
Damage Factors: SRDmg = 2; MRDmg = 0; LRDmg = 0
BattleForce2: MP: 2, Armor/Structure: 1/1
Damage PB/M/L: 1/-/-, Overheat: 0
Class: ML; Point Value: 1

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A)pretty sure randy is not going to allow 10 ton mechs

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Are you sure ? Accourding to the TechTree a 10t Mech should be possible:

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Tech Tree Research Facs | Tech Complexes | Defense Towers | Completed | Tree | Help

The Tech Tree page is a tool to help players focus their research in the right direction. Start by selecting a category of research you want to investigate, and then select the specific technology. You will be told which of the technologies you can currently research you should focus on to achieve your goal. You will also be given a vague estimate of how long it will take to research all the way to your specified goal at your current research level. Please note that the game only totals the resarch facilities you currently have tooled at your current research multiplier to calculate time. Also please realise that research on Neveron is an extraordinarily long and ambitious venture. Many of the technologies will only be realized by the most advanced and dynastic empires.
Select Category Ballistic Weapons Computer Systems Energy Weapons Engine Systems Mech Design Missile Weapons Motive Systems Repair Facility Sensors Structural Systems Vehicle Design

Select Technology Medium Buildings (50 CF) Heavy Buildings (75 CF) Reinforced Buildings (100 CF) Hardened Buildings (125 CF) Extra Hardened Buildings (150 CF) Vehicle Armor Infantry Heavy Armor Vehicle Internal Structure Vehicle Structural Concept (10 tons) Vehicle Structural Concept (20 tons) Vehicle Structural Concept (30 tons) Vehicle Structural Concept (40 tons) Vehicle Structural Concept (50 tons) Vehicle Structural Concept (60 tons) Vehicle Structural Concept (70 tons) Vehicle Structural Concept (80 tons) Vehicle Structural Concept (90 tons) Vehicle Structural Concept (100 tons) Mech Armor Mech Internal Structure Mech Structural Concept (10 tons) Mech Structural Concept (20 tons) Mech Structural Concept (30 tons) Mech Structural Concept (40 tons) Mech Structural Concept (50 tons) Mech Structural Concept (60 tons) Mech Structural Concept (70 tons) Mech Structural Concept (80 tons) Mech Structural Concept (90 tons) Mech Structural Concept (100 tons)



Desired Technology: Mech Structural Concept (10 tons)
To advance towards this technology you should tool your facilities to the following items:

Category Technology Name RP
Structural Systems Medium Buildings (50 CF) 1



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... i asume everybody has to research the lower structural concepts before thouse with more than 10t, so everybody who can build Mechs should already have the technologies needed for a Slug SLG-MG.

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B)submitting a player desighn cost alot of money (real money, not nev$)

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How much € would me cost the design of the Slug SLG-MG ?

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C) player desighned mechs are usually DP only, meaning they can only be boyught with points gained from donating REAL money to neveron.

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OK, this is the killing blow for the poor little Slug.

But maybe we can convince Randy that he gives EACH new player a single Slug SLG-MG for his Emperor instead of one of the 4 Newbie Jeeps, or that only Zero DP are needed to build a Slug SLG-MG.

MfG, MEX

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BattleMech Technical Readout

Type/Model: McDonald OLD
Tech: Inner Sphere / 3132
Config: Biped BattleMech
Rules: Level 1, Custom design

Mass: 10 tons
Chassis: Endo Steel
Power Plant: 20 I.C.E.
Walking Speed: 21,6 [32,4]km/h
Maximum Speed: 32,4 [54,0] km/h
Jump Jets: None
Jump Capacity: 0 meters
Armor Type: Ferro-Fibrous
Armament: 1 Combine
Manufacturer: (Unknown)
Location: (Unknown)
Communications System: (Unknown)
Targeting & Tracking System: (Unknown)

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==Overview:==
Unlike other 'Mechs, the McDonald was not produced for the military.
Triple Strength Myomer, combined with its 1 Single Heatsink, allows this
FarmingMech to raise its speed as soon as its heatlevel has reached 9.
Pilots are advised to switch off the Heatsink, if the heatlevel falls below 10,
and to stay below a heatlevel of 14 to avoid shutdowns of the I.C.E.Engine.

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Type/Model: McDonald OLD
Mass: 10 tons

Equipment: Crits Mass
Int. Struct.: 19 pts Endo Steel 14 ,50
(Endo Steel Loc: 1 LA, 1 RA, 5 LT, 5 RT, 1 LL, 1 RL)
Engine: 20 I.C.E. 6 1,00
Walking MP: 2 [3]
Running MP: 3 [5]
Jumping MP: 0
Heat Sinks: 1 Single 1 1,00
(Heat Sink Loc: 1 HD)
XL Gyro: 6 ,50
Cockpit, Life Supt., Sensors: 5 3,00
Triple Strength Myomer: 6 ,00
Actuators: L: Sh+UA+LA R: Sh+UA+LA+H 15 ,00
Armor Factor: 27 pts Ferro-Fibrous 14 1,50
(Armor Crit Loc: 1 LA, 3 RA, 5 LT, 5 RT)

Internal Armor
Structure Value
Head: 3 2
Center Torso: 4 3
Center Torso (Rear): 2
L/R Side Torso: 3 2/2
L/R Side Torso (Rear): 2/2
L/R Arm: 1 2/2
L/R Leg: 2 4/4

Weapons and Equipment Loc Heat Ammo Crits Mass
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1 Combine LA 0 4 2,50
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TOTALS: 0 71 10,00
Crits & Tons Left: 7 ,00

Calculated Factors:
Total Cost: 1.036.346 C-Bills
Battle Value: 108
Cost per BV: 9.595,8
Weapon Value: 1 / 1 (Ratio = ,01 / ,01)
Damage Factors: SRDmg = 0; MRDmg = 0; LRDmg = 0
BattleForce2: MP: 2, Armor/Structure: 1/1
Damage PB/M/L: 1/-/-, Overheat: 0
Class: ML; Point Value: 1

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no first whats a combine?, no endo steel and ferro fibers.

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Just look into the CBT Miniatures Rules at page 58, ISBN# 3-89064-981-5

You also overlooked the Triple Strength Myomer and the XL Gyro

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TSM and XL-Gyro with ICE-Engine ? Yeah, that is going to get coded in. There are more important things in nev to be dealt with.

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That is the reason why i have designed the Slug-SLG-MG in the first place

I think there should be a cheap Mech available for newbies which is as slow as an urbie and nearly useless for anyone which can afford real Mechs, which can be given to EACH Newbie which creates a new empire instead one of the 4 Newbie Jeeps ...

... with a Super Light class for Mechs with less than 20t, and only a single design with 10t available, this would make sense in the arena too

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Better start out with a wasp, rather than some too-light-to-survive mech.

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But a Wasp with 20t will have twice the Maintenance Cost of a 10t Mech ... thats one of the reasons why i want a 10t Battlemech for training new pilots

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10 Ton: 2,500 N/D. 20 ton: 5,000 N/D.

2,500 difference. That's still virtually nothing to even a level 0 empire.

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well, unless it has been changed, battle armor is an option in the research lists. I think in the future there is a plan to implement armored infantry of some sort...

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The 10t Mech Concept can be researched already ... but until now there isnt a single 10t Mech available ... so i think BA is as far from beeing available in Neveron as 10t Mechs

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I want a 5 ton mech that my emperors wife can take down to the market. That way if any slow old ladies try to get gruff with her, she can kick them around with her big 1 ton boot.

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In this range ( 2-9 tons ) you can only have a PROTOmech ( accourding to the CBT Rules this will be a Level 2 piece of 3060 Technology ).

I suggest that you look for a Centaur:

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ProtoMech Technical Readout
VALIDATED DESIGN

Type/Model: Centaur
Tech: Clan / 3060
Config: TOTALS: 1 5.000ProtoMech
Rules: Level 2, Standard design

Mass: 5 tons (5.000 kg)
Chassis: Advanced Composite
Power Plant: 45 Size Fusion
Walking Speed: 64,8 km/h
Maximum Speed: 97,2 km/h
Jump Jets: None
Jump Capacity: 0 meters
Armor Type: Integral Advanced Alloy
Armament:
1 ER Micro Laser
1 SRM 2
1 LRM 3
Manufacturer: Unknown
Location: Unknown
Communications System: Unknown
Targeting & Tracking System: Unknown

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==Overview:==
A fast and flexible ProtoMech, the Centaur is a good all-purpose unit.
Its weapons reach short, medium, and long ranges, making it effective in many
kinds of terrain from wilderness to city streets. However, its relatively
light armor and reliance on ammunition prevent it from becoming a mainstay
unit.

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Type/Model: Centaur
Mass: 5 tons (5.000 kg)

Equipment: Mass, kg
Int. Struct.: 12 pts Advanced Composite 500
Engine: 45 Size Fusion 1.000
Walking MP: 6
Running MP: 9
Jumping MP: 0
Heat Sinks: 1 Compact ProtoMech 250
Cockpit, Life Support, Sensors & Pilot: 500
Armor Factor: 20 pts Integral Advanced Alloy 1.000

Internal Armor
Structure Value
Head: 1 3
Torso: 5 7
Main Gun: 1 2
Left/Right Arms: 1/1 2/2
Legs: 3 4

Weapons and Equipment Location Heat Ammo Mass, kg
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1 ER Micro Laser Main Gun 1 250
1 SRM 2 Torso 0 10 700
1 LRM 3 Torso 0 8 800
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TOTALS: 1 5.000
Mass remaining, kg: 0 left

Calculated Factors:
Total Cost: 727.020 C-Bills
Battle Value: 140
Cost per BV: 5.193,0
Weapon Value: 24 / 24 (Ratio = ,17 / ,17)
Damage Factors: SRDmg = 5; MRDmg = 2; LRDmg = 1
BattleForce2: MP: 6, Armor/Structure: 5/0
Damage PB/M/L: 4/4/1, Overheat: 0
Class: P ; Point Value: 7

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I'm sure she looks great with EI tattoos.

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Lets start a vote, all for mex to be banned from forms for a month say "I".

Face it man 10t mechs arent going to be implemted in along time even if they are.

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How about everbody for you beeing banned saying "l" ?

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We're getting quads?

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We're getting quads?

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I second that. Gimme!

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Including the ability to make mule-kicks ?

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jump jets "supposedly" work by venting the fusion exhuast th the jets, or some crazy thing like that

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Holy crap! Infantry run on fussion reactors? No wonder the little suckers cost 10,000 just to hire.

Actually there was supposed to be a hundred ton tank with jump jets in some tech-group. Really kind of an oddity. The Kanga or something? But man that'd hurt if it landed on you. But if you really want a jumping Gecko, beg for a Ferret-VTOL.

On the As effective, you notice I said researched varriants. Starting out moderate and if people want to produce improved ones they re-research. Same way it goes with mechs, just generally a cheaper units so a cheaper research. Its not like you're suddenly gonna discover one with a PPC etc.

As to the sights, even the simplest vehicle can mount iron sights or a targetting computer. Even the cheesiest targetting system can point a laser pointer at a view screen to show you about where your aimed. Note I said lack of sensors, not lack of any technology at all. Seriously it takes a couple hours for a decent programmer to a couple days at most to cobble together a "your gun is pointing that way" targetting system. Also some of the weapons duct tap-*coughs* I mean bolted carefully on are stuck in a forward arc possition. In those cases a simple mark on your front view window gives you an X sighting. Though admitedly that means the pilot needs to y-sight themself.

As to price though *sighs* you may be right. I mean look whats in stores now:
SFT-P Swiftwind Scout Car #5 $ 1,499,999
Thats a small, fast and utterly weaponless sensor craft. Almost 2x faster then a gecko, a sensor power 1 stronger and less armor. And it costs about 3x as much. While its a nice fast scout, if the driver sneezes it might blow out the armor. Out of around 11020 empires, there are 186 of these in play. $1.5 million cost.

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Rather then spend 30 Mill, give or take to put them in an LCT, why not spend a fraction of that to see if they are any good?

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