mattbuck
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Game Rules: What are they?
#163409 - 01/18/12 12:22 PM (128.243.253.104)
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<NoobieDoobieDoo_afk> if you would like to create a proposal of 'rules' to be inserted at the top of that page, maybe with the help of some other 'vocal' players, id be happy to simply review/ edit it and then copy paste that into place
<NoobieDoobieDoo_afk> THAT would free up some of the 'time' aspect for me
So guys, what are the current rules? (Not what you want them to be, what they ARE)
* One player may own five empires, of which only one may be level 7 or bigger.
* All public communication in Neveron is expected to be suitable for all ages, so no profanity, sexual comments, racial slurs etc. This applies to the following places:
** Official Neveron IRC chatrooms (#neveron and #neveron_newbies)
** Nevmail (public, faction or private)
** Battle chat
** Sarna.net forums
** Names of units, empires, zones, etc
** Mercenary contract information, sales advertisements, legendary unit notes
** Cash transfers
* Using communications to be verbally abusive of others is also against the rules.
* Arena fights which are "fixed" (eg for the purposes of repairing a mech or transferring money) are banned.
* You may not have arena duels between two empires you own or primarily control.
* Demanding that someone donate for you or send you donation points as a form of extortion is banned.
* You are not allowed to connect to Neveron using third-party clients. You may only connect using a web browser.
* You are not allowed to manually enter URLs to find/use loopholes in the code or to call up information you should not otherwise have access to.
* You are not allowed to use HTML tricks to make unit names (etc) disappear. Furthermore, not closing HTML tags may result in the renaming or deletion of the units in question. Links in names are strictly forbidden.
* Do not add links to external sites other than in the faction description. These links may ONLY be to informational sites/pages and must not have any action-oriented code (eg resetting homepages, recording information or Neveron function pages).
* If you witness a bug, you should report it via a help ticket to the admins. People who knowingly benefit from bugs will be punished severely.
* Any empire which is not logged into by the primary login for a period of time will be deleted. This time period is 7 days for lvl0 empires, 30 days for lvl1 or higher.
* THE ELASTIC RULE: Any player activity which is found to be maliciously abusive of game systems, whether or not it is expressedly forbidden, is against the rules.
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Edited by mattbuck (01/26/12 05:22 AM)
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ghostrider
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Re: Game Rules: What are they?
[Re: mattbuck]
#163412 - 01/18/12 12:33 PM (70.173.25.223)
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Looks about right.
Bug abuse is the only thing i dont see there, but that could fall under the elastic rule.
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Hythos
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Re: Game Rules: What are they?
[Re: ghostrider]
#163434 - 01/18/12 03:27 PM (137.78.94.87)
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Attacking one's own empire? I've noticed a few Empires with "Surrendered to " that do that, probably for land-transfers?
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Toten
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Re: Game Rules: What are they?
[Re: mattbuck]
#163435 - 01/18/12 03:31 PM (118.208.190.144)
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- You MAY attack an empire you own with another empire you control in land war, but you MAY NOT attack one of your own arenas.
- Level 0 empires are unable to participate in land war. They can neither attack nor be attacked until level 1.
- Surrounding an empire with a level 0 empire is expressly forbidden and will result in the deletion of the level 0 empire, with possible fines against other empires of the controlling player.
- Level 0 empires are now limited to a maximum of 10 zones.
- If you drop to level 0 you will automatically be evicted from your faction.
- Level 0 empires will be limited to $25,000,000 cash (inclusive of money held on non-emperor characters).
- Level 0 Empires: Not logged into after 7 days will be deleted. All other empires have 30 days of inactivity before deletion.
- Any zone of a level 0 empire may be claimed by another empire for $200,000 if there are no units present and no buildings. Theoretically, if a level 0 empire has no units and no buildings anywhere, the entire empire could be claimed for a $200,000 per zone.
- Level 0 empires can no longer send public mails.
- If a level 0 empire surrenders to you, you will gain nothing from it regardless of your own level, although the level 0 will suffer the proper income loss.
- Level 0 empires are no longer unattackable. This was left over from long, long ago when they needed protections. The scaled attack costs now prevent rampant noob annihilation and this change prevents people from surrounding themselves with unattackable level 0 empires.
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mattbuck
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Re: Game Rules: What are they?
[Re: Toten]
#163437 - 01/18/12 03:40 PM (128.243.253.104)
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I'm not sure those are rules as such Toten, they're simply the way the game works. In the same way you're not allowed to upgrade a Stone Rhino - it's a fact, but it's not a rule.
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TRK
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Re: Game Rules: What are they?
[Re: mattbuck]
#163442 - 01/18/12 04:01 PM (208.118.89.26)
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Some mechs are not allowed to be upgraded. kinda sounds like a rule to me.
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mattbuck
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Re: Game Rules: What are they?
[Re: TRK]
#163445 - 01/18/12 04:25 PM (128.243.253.104)
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No, a rule is something that in practice you can do but which you are not allowed to. Something you simply cannot do is just the way the game works.
I can't build a building of 750cf, but it's not a rule that you can't, it's simply not possible due to the game mechanics.
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Phred
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Re: Game Rules: What are they?
[Re: mattbuck]
#163474 - 01/20/12 04:53 PM (137.186.132.65)
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Quote:
Game mechanics are constructs of rules intended to produce an enjoyable game or gameplay. All games use mechanics; however, theories and styles differ as to their ultimate importance to the game. In general, the process and study of game design are efforts to come up with game mechanics that allow for people playing a game to have a fun and engaging experience.
From Wikipedia, as a noobie I can't post links apparently. Understandable.
So, it appears that is a rule.
Edited by Phred (01/20/12 04:54 PM)
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mattbuck
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Re: Game Rules: What are they?
[Re: Phred]
#163477 - 01/20/12 07:24 PM (128.243.253.114)
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I'd say it's a semantically different type of rule they're talking about.
Consider this:
In tabletop battletech, as on Nev, an LRM is range 21. But there is nothing to stop me shooting something range 24 - it's simply cheating.
In Nev however one is actually incapable of doing that. It's not that you shouldn't because it's not fair, one simply cannot do it (no upgrades before anyone gets smart).
The tabletop LRM range is a rule, on Nev it's simply the way the game works.
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ShadowMasterCM
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Re: Game Rules: What are they?
[Re: mattbuck]
#163547 - 01/25/12 10:32 PM (24.103.210.226)
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to further clarify...
most of the points are clarifications of how a particular system may work...
the 'rule' is stating a fact that the game may allow you to do some action, the rule clarifies the legally allowed options of said action
several of Totens points where in fact rules that would fit this post
others where suggestions for clarifications of future L0s limitations
some where simply stating facts of game procedures [aka the inactive empire will be deleted in X days]
As far as some of the posted rules, there are some that i strongly agree with, and others i strongly disagree with
disagree : L0 = auto boot from faction
agree : surrounding any empire with L0 = deletion and fines against owner(s) of both empires
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mattbuck
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Re: Game Rules: What are they?
[Re: ShadowMasterCM]
#163549 - 01/26/12 05:07 AM (128.243.253.104)
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Wait... what? Why can someone not surround themselves with a lvl0? The point about that was that lvl0s were unattackable, it was meant to stop people creating walls. Then Randy decided on the no attack without DoW rule and messed that up. And lvl0s dropping out of factions? They should do that automatically...
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NeverSayNever
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Re: Game Rules: What are they?
[Re: ShadowMasterCM]
#163572 - 01/27/12 01:23 PM (78.49.204.62)
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Quote:
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agree : surrounding any empire with L0 = deletion and fines against owner(s) of both empires
Huh?
So "surrounding any empire with L0 = deletion and fines against owner(s) of both empires" would be considered a 'crime', while surrounding any empire with a single city, instant surrender level 4+ empire would be considered fine and dandy?
By the way, please could our admin specify / clarify the exact meaning of "surrounding any empire with L0"?
Would "surrounding [any single zone?, or several zones?, or several zones with buildings?, or any buildable zone/s?, or ...? of] any empire with L0" considered to be a 'crime', or would it take the following: "surrounding any empire with L0 [completely]" to be considered a 'crime'?
You know, just for curiosity's sake, but please don't worry, I'm only a curious carebear, without a family lawyer at hand to help exploit any loopholes which might result from a not 100 percent clear wording of a rule, and of course the real 'fun' would start once the powergamers start dissecting any new rules, with their family lawyers, pf course ...
Just some food for thought ...
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Malachi
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Re: Game Rules: What are they?
[Re: NeverSayNever]
#163586 - 01/28/12 11:05 AM (109.246.128.163)
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Really simple one: "All rules should be played to the spirit of the rule, as well as the letter."
Basically meaning if its blatently obvious that you are playing something to the letter but not meeting the moral reason the rule was put in then you are still breaking it.
Open to the interpretation of the admin I would imagine.
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ghostrider
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Re: Game Rules: What are they?
[Re: Malachi]
#163593 - 01/28/12 11:05 PM (70.173.25.223)
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Well a big one for that would be gb's.
Is it protecting your faction/alliance mates, or just not wanting to waste time/money/resources using a single empire to strike back?
Honestly, i would prefer to see in print the rules, since I dont agree with sm about log in vandalism. I feel it is NOT a valid tactic, but I am not an admin.
Also, things can be seen one way today and be acceptable, while tomarrow, it is completely out of bounds.
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Malachi
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Re: Game Rules: What are they?
[Re: ghostrider]
#164002 - 02/13/12 04:31 AM (90.217.232.119)
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Gangbangs are part of the game, for better or worse, locking empires in 1v1 combat is stupid, it would simply encourage mass commissioning. I digress.
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Protege
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Re: Game Rules: What are they?
[Re: ShadowMasterCM]
#164010 - 02/13/12 07:36 AM (65.87.39.230)
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Why did you ask this? You don't give a rat's *** about the players or their input, so why do you care what we thought? Just an excuse to yank our chains a little more so you can just do what you want anyways? What a titantic waste of time and effort.
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