fjin
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Is this game IE only?
#45776 - 01/06/03 11:28 AM (212.246.158.77)
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in page http://www3.neveron.com/no_empire.asp
klicking that [Create Empire] button doesn't do eanything, everything else works fine so far.
I'm using Mozilla 1.3a on Windows.
... and no, switching to IE is not an option, I will never do that, if there is any options. If this game doesn't work with Mozilla, then I go to seek other games. It's simply as that.
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Aciddog
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Re: Is this game IE only?
#45778 - 01/06/03 12:37 PM (12.75.129.46)
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it is IE 5.5 or above only!
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Maran
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Re: Is this game IE only?
#45779 - 01/06/03 01:32 PM (172.182.144.230)
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I agree and disagree most of the techie ppl I know keep I.E, Netscape and mozilla all for different purposes. Downloading I.E to get a free game (not switching to it) is what I did though not initially just for neveron.
But I'm sure you could put up with a free browser just for a free game eh? That way Maybe bill gates might have done something useful for you for a change.
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Arufirm
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Re: Is this game IE only?
#45781 - 01/06/03 02:03 PM (217.229.245.238)
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for building,research and buying IE 4.0 works
i never tried to fight with the 4.0
i only tried it because on the pc of my father ist the IE 4.0 and i wanted to check some things on my empire when my pc didnīt worked.
but some thingīs are not displayed in the normal way.
so i think if u want to play the hole game u need the 5.5 or above
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Thor
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Re: Is this game IE only?
#45797 - 01/06/03 04:32 PM (213.224.83.174)
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since mozilla is open source you could put all the asp support that's needed for neveron in it.
that's the easy solution.
that hard solution is that you dowload IE 6.0 and instal it, since you area already using windows.
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fjin
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Re: Is this game IE only?
#45832 - 01/07/03 05:24 AM (212.246.158.77)
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I have installed Mozilla with all bells and whistles, if that asp support must go somewhere else and install as plug-in separately, then I must try to find that place where it's available.
I simply doesn't trust IE, or any M$ "products". Any exploits are primarily designed to work in M$ software, not to begin speak of any SpyWare what just sticks to any (win) computer when just brosing at 'Net.
That windows using is temporal solution, This is Dual boot box, and for some reason I have troubles to get Linux seeing 'Net (dhcp queries fails, I have tried "pump" and "dhcpclient": NIC is working.)
For example EMail is going to Linux in future.
In near future this box is running most of the time under Linux, and booting to Win, just because of one game. That's what I do, others might do other way.
If that IE only game is verified fact, it would be good to announce it at the front page:
* This game works only with IE *
It just saves some trouble from all of us.
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Aciddog
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Re: Is this game IE only?
#45836 - 01/07/03 06:57 AM (12.75.137.152)
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To play Neveron you will need Microsoft Internet Explorer 5.01+. In addition it is IMPERATIVE that you set your browser settings correctly! If you need help doing this read the overview.
it was posted on the www.neveron.com front page
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fjin
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Re: Is this game IE only?
#45842 - 01/07/03 08:58 AM (212.246.158.77)
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Okay, okay.
for some reason I understood that this game doesn't support Very Old Browsers. And to make it clear where is that Old defined, you mentioned that current most used broser. That also works as referece for users of other brosers. for example if I am surfing with Netscape 4.76 it would give good hint that it doesn't work - because of my Old Technology Browser.
If you just add something like "Other browsers not supported".
It means that the game site uses M$'s closed "standards", instead of real "open standards".
Anyway, it looks like I have to figure out how to delete this account, or just hope that it time-out's at some day.
Bye Bye....
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Maran
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Re: Is this game IE only?
#45843 - 01/07/03 09:13 AM (172.186.114.22)
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To play Neveron you WILL need Microsoft Internet Explorer 5.01+.
That statement seems to cover it clear enough for me, perhaps if they put it in bold with fancy letters?....
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TheDeadlyShoe
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Re: Is this game IE only?
#45896 - 01/08/03 12:09 AM (4.40.153.191)
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Yah, it doesnt say "Or Compatible Browsers."
I dont get the Microsoft hatred people have. Great company IMO. You ever visited their campuses?
In any cause I DID use a version of Opera to play neveron once. Try Opera.
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Thor
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Re: Is this game IE only?
#45912 - 01/08/03 04:36 AM (213.224.83.166)
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the microsoft hate is only based on jealousy.
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Krait
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Re: Is this game IE only?
#45921 - 01/08/03 05:15 AM (172.184.0.117)
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"Cannot proceeed with installation because a critical resource is missing. Exiting."
One of the reasons why I hate Microsoft. Always getting things like that with their products. How the heck am I supposed to fix it if they don't tell me WHAT critical resource is missing (and no there was no 'details button)....
Of course, most other companies arent much better, but while I use other products now and then I am forced to bear with M$ all day long, so...
What I don't understand is the people paranoid about spyware... Of course theres nothing worth spying out on my comp, and if there was it wouldnt stay there...
Lata
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zebbin
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Re: Is this game IE only?
#46646 - 01/16/03 11:08 PM (4.47.212.181)
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Simple example of why Microsft is evil.
1st step provide a simple to use operating system that is
meets the goals for the causual computer user.
2nd step obtain market domination in this community
3rd step provide developer tools which can only be used
on aformentioned operatiing system which produce products
which can only be used on afformentiond operating system.
4th step. Create libraries/ operating systems/applications which require custom code which is incomapitable with other operating systems.
5th step provide special versions of thoes products for
selective operating systems which are of no threat.
(IE you can run i.e on mac)
6th step refuse to make versions of thoes products for competition wich currently dominates the commerical server
and developemt markets.
7th step total software market dommination.
After achiving step 7. Completetly controll the development of
new software technologies and products. This will then lead to a slow down in technology development until a stagnation point is reached eventhoug prices continue to climb.
Ok so it was kind of long and drawn out.
The simple truth is, there is no need for neveron to be a purely IE accessable application. Everything that is done here could be accompleshed with standard html (which includes forms and there for asps and jsps) and third party flash/java like plugins.
But b/c of microsofts position/dominance/buisniess practices
this game in not available for thoes who use unix and many other operating systems.
--Zebbin
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Maran
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Re: Is this game IE only?
#46768 - 01/18/03 04:21 AM (172.186.197.10)
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Microsoft hate is based on the years and years of rubbish they have put their customers through.
Its based on the fact the break laws to get their products in and others out.
It's the fact that the products they get out are usually better than the ones they have.
But more importantly its based on the fact they've made us their customers, beta testers for the past 8 years..
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MadWolf
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Re: Is this game IE only?
#46820 - 01/18/03 01:13 PM (134.53.144.45)
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Netscape 6.0 used to work, but that was a very long time ago. ( back when i made my first empire and sunk it straight out of existance ) but i think that has changed. 
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MadWolf
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Re: Is this game IE only?
#46824 - 01/18/03 01:28 PM (134.53.144.45)
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Well microsoft standardized alot of things making computers easyer for people with no training to understand and operate. When windows did this noone elese followed suit and made a easy to use GUI and windows won. Since then windows has been the head cheeze. i'm sorry everyone elses lost, please try again at a later time. Quality isn't worth crap unless its cheap and manufactured with ease. Since i have become a colledge student i have not had to buy any software. Most software i use came in bundle packs with my harddrives or other hardware of sorts. anything elese i need i find freeware on the internet. Its a fact that if its a software thats on the shelf at a computer store, someswere on the net there is some little computter guru that has made software that achieves the same goal and is freeware, or email ware. 
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Stalker17
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Re: Is this game IE only?
#46830 - 01/18/03 02:07 PM (67.32.66.125)
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yes, I have a nice 3D rendering program, two great battlemech designers, a good vehicle designer, and lego CAD program, and program that converts the CAD files in to something that the 3d renderer can render, computerized version of BT board game, mechwarrior 1 and battletech 1&2 (early BT comp games), a protomech design untility, a progam that can veiw almost any graphics file and save it in almost any format, ALL FOR FREE. (downloaded Freeware/Abandonware)
If you don't wanna pay for it, nowadays you don't have too
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TheDeadlyShoe
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Re: Is this game IE only?
#46859 - 01/18/03 06:39 PM (4.40.153.191)
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I'll bet that one of the programs is Irfanview.
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Atreides
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Re: Is this game IE only?
#46875 - 01/18/03 10:43 PM (64.166.211.157)
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Microsoft never standardised much of anything. Microsoft purposefully breaks standards, otherwise you could use something besides their product. That would lose them money.
As far as the GUI thing, APPLE invented that in the 80's, everyone laughed at Apple and said the command line is the only way to run a computer. 3 years later (or thereabouts) Microsoft Windows was on the scene and ready to save you from yourself.
So, how come Apple didn't win if they had the best idea? Because Apple has always had something of an elitist attitude, unable to give anything away, and thus has a small market share. Microsoft COPIED the GUI idea, they did not innovate anything.
Microsoft, who's technology is generally of poor overall quality, realised that if they could convince you that you were getting this for free, and if they could it get to people who had no computer experience first, nobody would know the difference and microsoft would get all the market share.
That's the answer to your first statement, Microsoft didn't standardise crap, they got a bunch of newbs who didn't know anything to buy their stuff and since people hate to learn something they think they already know all over again, they stick with it.
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MadWolf
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Re: Is this game IE only?
#46882 - 01/19/03 12:10 AM (134.53.28.146)
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Standardization, IBM and pc are the standard, more people own a PC based computer than people who have a mac. More of those PC's have microsoft than they do have Linux, Unix or other such operating systems. People now go into best buy and buy a E-machine and get winXP on it and microsoft controls the market. Therefore they have standardized everything there way and more computers in america use PC Windows combo. the majority rules and the PC is king, I can go into a circut city and say " i need a modem" and they will hand me a PCI modem for a windows machine without even bothering to ask. the standardization isnt always for the better. but the Emachine is the economy base computer. retals for 400$ 
Like dune?
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Thor
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Re: Is this game IE only?
#46883 - 01/19/03 12:57 AM (213.224.83.174)
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Apple didn't invented anything in the gui, Xerox invented that in the 70's (i think its xerox, not sure about the name, but it was some paper producing company that feared the pc would make any office throw away all paper) they made their own pc's with a gui that could do about anything you could do with just like you would be writing or typing on paper.
Microsoft might have 'stolen' the initial idea of the gui, but they did ALOT of investment to make the gui's what they are today, the first apple gui might have be nice for those days, but all but user friendly.
other companies then stole back the investments of the research put in the gui's to make them better.
and microsoft technology is of far better quality of any other company or any freeware (linux and co) , i have both windows xp and the last version of linux running on my pc, never use the linux but for work for univercity that can't be done in windows, and the windows never crashes, if something crashes, it's only the programs crashing, while linux started with crashing during the first attempt of instaliation, second worked, but its not stable at all now. (no i didn't messed the kernel by trying to recompile or anything, its just the instal from the cd's i got from the linux sites)
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Krait
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Re: Is this game IE only?
#46892 - 01/19/03 03:57 AM (172.184.48.16)
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Well back when I had an Amiga, the workbench was VERY much like the later windows environment.
I guess M$es best trick was to get all the computer sellers to sell their crap with a Microsoft OS (MS-DOS and later Windows) installed. That gave MS products to the crowds of new compter useres back when comps started to become commonplace, and thus they got a monopoly that still lasts, and probably will not be broken anytime soon.
Even if all companies producing computer software started to produce software for linux only now, people would be reluctant to change because all their old programs wouldnt run anymore (hell, I dont even change to WindowsXP coz too man old proggies dont run anymore...) so it will never happen.
Lata
Krait
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Stalker17
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Re: Is this game IE only?
#46916 - 01/19/03 05:22 AM (67.32.66.125)
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yeah shoe, you're right, then there's POV-Ray, you ever heard of that?
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Atreides
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Re: Is this game IE only?
#46977 - 01/19/03 08:31 PM (64.166.208.190)
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What distro Thor? I was a Linux Newb and still partitioned/dual-booted/and had to work *Extremely Hard* to break things in linux right off the bat, so long as I didn't log in as root. I think your distro is suspect for your problems. Make a few friends at the university tech shop and ask some questions.
Your history of the GUI proves that real innovation in the software world is not as common as the company's want you to believe. Microsoft included.
I'm writing this on XP right now, and i don't have any love for it. I have the latest IE and service pack, so what do I get, Active X errors everytime I want to be a battleplayer in an arena. Thanks, Mr Gates for so enhancing my computing experience.
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Thor
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Re: Is this game IE only?
#47009 - 01/20/03 07:21 AM (213.224.83.182)
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the activeX errors are only cause the server is overheating.
nothing to do with windows xp, but with the to small server, only thing to help that is donate a few thousand dollars to randy so he can buy even more new servers (am i right i saw somewhere he got some new getting installed somewher ein the future?)
i only installed linux cause of the works for univercity, never realy favoured the idea of free software, but i wasn't negative towards linux, untill it was on my pc (i'm already happy it didn't messed up my windows partition), it will stay there, just in case more of those works arrive, nothing else.
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