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Khan_E_F
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More mechs????
      #75169 - 10/23/03 11:26 PM (203.56.233.9)

I'm pretty happy about the new vehicles, especially that 30-ton artillery tank. The Striker-02 adds some more variety but I probably won't find too much use for it. But I'm thinking that nev needs more mechs, especially medium and heavy ones, perhaps a few assaults or lights. I'm not talking about JJ mechs with super weapons, just normal beatable mechs that follow the level 1 tech rules. It should add more variety in LW and since they aren't super uber mechs, they should be sold by NASI regulary... What are ur opinions?

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Tien_Lung
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Re: More mechs????
      #75170 - 10/23/03 11:31 PM (161.184.143.108)

Maybe some upgrades with the mkii weapons in use on vehicles.

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Khan_E_F
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Re: More mechs????
      #75171 - 10/23/03 11:40 PM (203.56.233.9)

Maybe, but i'd like another varient of the goblin, perhaps scrap the laser and mg along with a few armor with a single PPC? Should make good unlimited light fire support for recon lances or light attack lances...

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Krait
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Re: More mechs????
      #75174 - 10/24/03 03:48 AM (172.184.232.184)

Theres a PPC Bulldog that kinda fits that same role. And since the RP reqs are dominated by the 4000 RP for the PPC a PPC Goblin wouldnt be much cheaper.
There is a Bunch of 3025 tech BT vehicles out there that are not yet in nev though, those might be worth adding. More mechs... I really don't think we need more mechs. Except for maybe a heavy mech with an AC20 because such a thing does not exist afaik.

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Khan_E_F
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Re: More mechs????
      #75476 - 10/28/03 10:37 PM (203.56.233.124)

Another version of the catapult with only 2 sets of LRM 20s with plenty of ammo! This would make a great support mech since its pretty dumb to send a Catapult in close combat anyways...

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Krait
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Re: More mechs????
      #75478 - 10/29/03 12:57 AM (172.180.218.243)

That would be the CPLT-C4 which already is in Nev but sucks.

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Mazer
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Re: More mechs????
      #75484 - 10/29/03 05:23 AM (66.20.28.21)

The medium lasers can be nice, I lost both arms in a duel against a Charger and got lucky and shot his head off

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Re: More mechs????
      #75491 - 10/29/03 09:05 AM (12.47.79.2)

One of these days I'm going to get that lucky. I was fighting a FFL with a Locust, was almost untouched and had both of his legs to 2 internal left,and the rest of the fight I couldn't hit them while he slowly chewed me up on 10s and 11s.

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Re: More mechs????
      #75492 - 10/29/03 09:07 AM (12.47.79.2)

No, wait, now that never happened. . . (well, it did, but less than 10 days ago)

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Mazer
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Re: More mechs????
      #75498 - 10/29/03 10:06 AM (66.20.28.21)

The weirdness thickens

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Re: More mechs????
      #75499 - 10/29/03 10:47 AM (12.47.79.2)

Everyone sing along (surely you've all seen the Rocky Horror Picture Show). . .

"lets do the time warp again. . . "

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Haskell
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Re: More mechs????
      #75515 - 10/29/03 03:18 PM (69.34.49.128)

In reply to:

"lets do the time warp again. . . "


/me tries to erase image of Chetter in fish net from her mind ...

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Re: More mechs????
      #75517 - 10/29/03 03:48 PM (211.26.115.173)

......................... [shudder]

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Re: More mechs????
      #75523 - 10/29/03 06:09 PM (68.201.216.232)

You just had to go there didn't you well that'll teach me to try and eat some dinner while patroling these forums... egads lady!


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Khan_E_F
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Re: More mechs????
      #75528 - 10/29/03 10:57 PM (203.56.233.124)

Even for the C4, I'd still like to scrap the lasers for more ammo! Most LRM support mechs which can be bought from the market often can go on prolonged campaigns without needing to retreat and reload... That's my problem, probably why I like PPCs so much

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Krait
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Re: More mechs????
      #75530 - 10/30/03 12:35 AM (172.180.218.243)

Even though it sucks, ammo-wise the CPLT-C4 has as many LRMs as Archers do. No Mech in nev with LRM20 has more than those 12 shots per launcher afaik.
This is exactly why I do not like LRM20 too much. Very tonnage-ineffective. LRM15 are the best (well actually LRM5 are but they spread the damage even more), and for that we got the CPLT-A1 which is a most excellent fire-support platform.

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Tien_Lung
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Re: More mechs????
      #75537 - 11/01/03 03:21 PM (161.184.143.108)

Highlander has 18 I think.

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Kelly
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Re: More mechs???? [Re: Khan_E_F]
      #75855 - 11/07/03 04:00 AM (12.211.253.240)

You mean like a tracked Bandit (ieBadger)

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Kelly
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Re: More mechs???? [Re: Krait]
      #75856 - 11/07/03 04:02 AM (12.211.253.240)

What about the Victor?

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Krait
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Re: More mechs???? [Re: Kelly]
      #75867 - 11/07/03 08:29 AM (172.179.221.218)

Victor?

One of the most useless mechs around. Halfway useful in terrain heavy arenas (though that is dangerous, if theyre hit by a 5/8/5 mech theyre in trouble). Just don't have enough armor on their RA and too high BV. Only thing that makes them good is the AC20s 1-shot kill capability. But in a terrain arena you will have high to hits, so....
(Exception: the paper Vics have nice low BVs, better suited to dueling then the real thing. Still far from being really great mechs though.)

And since they have no range whatsoever, more or less useless in LW. Works good as city fighter, but that role can be fulfilled by a lance of Vedettes even better and those are far cheaper.

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Re: More mechs???? [Re: Khan_E_F]
      #75966 - 11/09/03 07:41 AM (217.232.166.157)

i think an Urbie with an IDF cannon would be interessting. it would provide LWers with much more mobile IDF weapons. as they are more mobile (strategically) than vehicles they could become interessting for LWers. (eg, a lance of 1 ostscout and 3 IDF urbies)

the IDF 5 could also fit well into the urbie design (actually i don't know the real specs of that gun). the slow speed of the urbie would give defenders the chance to hunt urbies down.

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Re: More mechs???? [Re: Khan_E_F]
      #75986 - 11/09/03 03:04 PM (63.157.136.181)

I know of three mechs that follow level 1 rules that Randy could add. The GHR-5N Grasshopper which swaps out the lrm 5, lrm 5 ammo, and the large laser for a PPC and another medium laser. The Longbow LGB-7Q with the smaller engine but more heat sinks and a few medium lasers. And the CRS-3M Cronus, a highly mobile medium mech.

I would also like to see Randy update a few mechs with some Mkii technology. The Shadow Hawk would benefit if you gave it a lighter AC, Mkii missle launchers, and 2 extra jump jets. The JagerMech-S could use the weight savings to add 2 tons of armor.

There are also a few vehicles that could be added like the Myrmidon, the Gladius, and the Brutus.


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Re: More mechs???? [Re: sdog]
      #76006 - 11/09/03 10:49 PM (203.56.233.124)

More mobility on an urbie? Don't think 2 JJ moves are fast

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Re: More mechs???? [Re: Krait]
      #76007 - 11/09/03 10:52 PM (203.56.233.124)

Whats that really fast hover tank with the AC-20??? Can't remember what its called, nevs been down so long... Oh well, I remember that I did dismantle 2 medium mechs from the back with it. Too bad u don't get more than 2 shots before the tank crits:( But 2 AC-20 shots are more than enough!

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Krait
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Re: More mechs???? [Re: Khan_E_F]
      #76057 - 11/10/03 02:32 PM (172.178.51.7)

Saladin... Theyre pretty nifty. I killed a few MMM asaults with them when he attacked me. Regrettably theyre hovers, so too expensive in maint to keep in decent numbers :/

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Re: More mechs???? [Re: Krait]
      #76088 - 11/11/03 06:33 AM (209.201.75.16)

or atleast be able to bulid your own mechs with the new weapons i would actuly like to see some new designs using them

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Re: More mechs???? [Re: wartang]
      #76098 - 11/11/03 11:42 AM (209.159.211.57)

Nah, that might give Mr. Randy a chance to design some other ubermech monstrosity... If you really want a specific design, Randy might put it in for a price....

How do you think we got out current ubermechs?

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Re: More mechs???? [Re: Krait]
      #76143 - 11/11/03 10:29 PM (203.56.233.124)

I used to have a lance, but I lost 2, 1 when a husser managed to run around and hit me with its sole LL, I lost the other to 3 triple ranged AC-towers, but I took 1 tower down in the process:), My other 2 have just been building up dust in their vehicle hangers wasting my mantainance cash!

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Re: More mechs???? [Re: wartang]
      #76179 - 11/12/03 11:22 AM (66.119.33.135)

WHat i ll like to see built is a Raven Favorite (Scout mech) fitted with a ppc or a Lrm 10 or even (dear i say it a "Gauss Rifle" ) that would make it just about perfect for sniping enemy mechs.

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Re: More mechs???? [Re: Madmax]
      #76235 - 11/12/03 11:16 PM (203.56.233.124)

Ravens aren't suited to combat, even in light mech combat, they're role is soley as a scout, If u put a PPC, or any other good LW weapon, it will as a matter of fact, make the Raven worse! There is no point having all those stealth and ECM if u give ur location away by firing, I so, u might as well scrap the whole sensor package, which defeats why the raven was built in the first place.

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