Sideburnz
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Best Factions
#91565 - 05/13/04 03:22 PM (142.33.248.131)
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Its not like im lookin for one currently , but im just intrested. in your opinion, what is the best faction you can belong to.
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Seo
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Re: Best Factions
[Re: Sideburnz]
#91569 - 05/13/04 05:04 PM (142.166.196.28)
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FedCom all the way.
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Solourus
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Re: Best Factions
[Re: Sideburnz]
#91588 - 05/14/04 12:23 AM (203.219.188.113)
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There is no "best faction" it all depends on your type of play eg if you like LW join a faction that Lws often eg a HoC Faction but generaly you want a faction that looks out for its members has a good repair bay and is preferably in one of the top alliances
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sinsear
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Re: Best Factions
[Re: Solourus]
#91761 - 05/17/04 04:32 PM (211.26.126.101)
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Best Faction?
One you can trust.
Loyalty will win out over DP most of the time.
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Lone_Wolf_Radick
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Re: Best Factions
[Re: Sideburnz]
#93714 - 06/21/04 07:05 PM (65.1.53.170)
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Go CLAN all the way... Which one isn't important unless your timeline is post 3055, but consider this: Superior genetics, Superior Technology, and Battlefield Honor (which is sometimes a hindrance) but overall I've enjoyed my gaming experience much more without all the bickering and internal politics that come from fighting for one of the "great" houses. A merc unit or periphery faction may be an option too, once again allowing for the timeline you play in and what types of equipment serve you best. I myself (as evidenced from the bloodname) am Clan Wolf for life, but make your own decisions. By the way, Hi all, see you on CBT or MW4 online. See if you can find my submission!
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Seo
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Re: Best Factions
[Re: Lone_Wolf_Radick]
#93719 - 06/21/04 07:22 PM (156.34.177.59)
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Please will people stop reviving old topics. We arn't talking about BT factions (i think) but nev factions and on that note I've become more of an small faction guy now.
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MrMagonigal
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Re: Best Factions
[Re: Seo]
#93763 - 06/22/04 07:39 AM (69.28.165.161)
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I also like the smaller factions as it tends to make the members look out for each other more than the bigger guys out there. As long as you set your BP amount for your faction members to help you out and vice-versa, you should have no problems. Of course the smaller factions are not as rich as the big ones so there will probably be no large amounts of cash trading hands either.
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BigBoss
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Re: Best Factions
[Re: Sideburnz]
#95944 - 08/05/04 02:57 PM (24.224.151.124)
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All hail HoC! 
THE best LWers around, great people too.
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sinsear
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Re: Best Factions
[Re: BigBoss]
#96062 - 08/06/04 10:34 PM (211.26.118.227)
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I wouldn't say HoC are THE best lwers around.
theyhave lots of members, and ten or so would definately be in the elite land war category, but with over a hundred empires, that still leaves 90% of HoC just coming along for the ride.
personally, I think the best lw faction would be KZK. a single faction held off many concentrated attacks, and made it so that to kill them would be very uneconomical.
but of course, that's only my opinion.
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Kit_fox
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Re: Best Factions
[Re: sinsear]
#96081 - 08/07/04 04:49 AM (172.192.13.154)
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Actually I have thought about this topic a lot and what I came up with is that KzK is probably the faction currently that is the most skilled in LW, however HoC probably ends up being the best simply because while KzK is comprised of entirely active people who know what they are doing HoC has a lot of very well funded LW empires. You don't have to be skilled if you have a good enough military (tho it helps and saves a lot of pain if you are).
On that note, I also think that HoC has probably lost some of its edge that they used to have based on the last war that went on with WoB and Kizo with Hoc and Gen. Although I was just on the outside looking in, it seemed to me that HoC was having more problems in that war then they were in the previous one. I'm not sure if Kizo/WoB got better of if HoC got worse, but somehow HoC appeared to lose a bit of its edge.
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sinsear
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Re: Best Factions
[Re: Kit_fox]
#96102 - 08/07/04 11:23 AM (211.26.126.35)
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I was waiting for someone to mention the last war.
That is the reason why I said HoC (as a whole) are not the best LWers.
They blitzed kizo (and it's 17 or so op's) because kizo was a big, disorganised, cumbersome entity, that didn't co-ordinate itself very well. When HoC killed off empires, it was usually the crappy, inactive tag-a-longs (with a few exceptions) that quit nev because of it.
Now, kizo (Nev Com) is much smaller, and much more solid, thus harder to take.
I gues the title of THE best lwers depends on how you define it.
based on BV killed? Cpop captured? Vs human opponent or AI? averaged out with factionmates?
HoC have many very skillful lwers, don't get me wrong about that, but just Being in HOC doesn't make one skillful at lw, any more than being in a meadow makes you a cow.
Factor in the mass exodus of players, and rule changes (esp surrender) to expalin why people aren't dying, and you have you reason why this war is different from the last.
The most successful LW faction at the moment would have to be Ryuken.
Why?
1.They have the top 4 factions.
2.no one attacks them.
to quote sun-tzu;
"a general is skilled in attack when an enemy does not know where to defend, and skilled in defense when an enemy does not know where to attack."
They win without fighting, and stay strong without opposition, mostly through political ties, and military threats of reprisal.
HoC's biggest asset is their sheer unpredictability, and proven ability to spend un-imaginable lengths of time infront of their PC's, blasting away.
To answer your (Proably rhetorical) question;
Kizo did get better, they concentrated their strength, and HoC did lose a bit of it's edge with player retirements and diluting their strength by taking on lots of newbies and starting new OP's.
End result; only time will really tell.
THE best lwer? someone who wins without losing anything, against overwhelming opposition. I can only speak for those I've fought against, but in particular I respect firstborn (cunning, smart and thinks quite a few moves ahead, pls he has respect for other, so I have such for him) the leaders of UDC (reload and co seem to do everything they can to stand by their word and play fair, clever little lwers too, especially in teams) and a few others whom I cannot recall right now (4am here)
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Kit_fox
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Re: Best Factions
[Re: sinsear]
#96106 - 08/07/04 12:00 PM (172.196.169.68)
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*chuckles*
Yeay, Reload and co are well respected!
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Charon
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Re: Best Factions
[Re: Kit_fox]
#96134 - 08/07/04 09:10 PM (192.169.41.46)
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You know its sad, we let FWLM and WoB withdraw out of pity and we get "losing our edge", do you guys really want us to lw our enemies into the ground every time?
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Kit_fox
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Re: Best Factions
[Re: Charon]
#96137 - 08/07/04 09:56 PM (172.192.248.102)
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From what I saw WoB was holding their own until Chetter had his login stolen for several days and you had to call in another faction to handle FWLM.
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Charon
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Re: Best Factions
[Re: Kit_fox]
#96142 - 08/07/04 11:19 PM (192.169.41.46)
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Thats some damm fine stuff you are smoking, I was there and Chet and FWLM were damm lucky not to be (more) dismantled. That was kindness on the part of HoC leadership.
If people (like you) start talking smack about our kindness we will need to stop being kind.
PS. Strange how Chet sans login still had active bpers and re-inforcements between phases, if he lost his login it would be back in 5 seconds (after one phone call).
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Kit_fox
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Re: Best Factions
[Re: Charon]
#96147 - 08/08/04 05:07 AM (172.192.108.44)
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I will admit that FWLM was lucky to not be more dismantled, but not by HoC. You completely ignore the fact that UDC was called in and they more than anything else is what leveled FWLM, not HoC. It was UDC who restricted the vast majority of FWLM's 4-6 support empires, not HoC. It was primarly UDC who restricted higher level FWLM empires. And it was UDC who was the only faction to restrict a FWLM FL empire.
I do not know much about what happened on the front with WoB, I just have the warlog to look at. And it tells me that until the time that Chet lost his login you guys were at pretty much a stand still. How did he have active BPers? Well that is a silly question, BPing doesn't require a login, just set BP values. Moving troops just requires a pilot login. I didn't say that the person who stole chet's login changed anything about his empire, just that the login was in fact stolen. In fact, there was a public announcement by the people in HoC telling whoever had Chet's login to give it back (funny they would do that with a non stolen login, huh?).
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LiRa
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Re: Best Factions
[Re: Kit_fox]
#96155 - 08/08/04 07:08 AM (24.102.165.90)
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I agree that UDC took out alot of the FWLM. They surrendered alot of empires from lots of different factions. If it wasn't for people dropping out of the war and empires being protected, UDC and HoC(because Hoc did hurt FWLM as well) would have done alot more damage to FWLM.
As for wob and Nevcom, Hoc did the lions share of work here. They crippled the wob empire so far that Chet had to pull out. They knocked him down almost 20 faction rankings, which is alot of pop taken.
With the new surrender rules, you have to be really cold to surrender someone repaetedly, and while this did happen, because it didn't happen more, HoC is looking softer. And after HoC took a few hundred mil pop of Wob's hands, they let Chet out of the war, so they're looking softer there too. Who knows, HoC just may be getting softer.
But that still doesn't mean that they're soft or that anyone in the game would want to go to lw with them.(except that Chet will prolly keep trying  )
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Kit_fox
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Re: Best Factions
[Re: LiRa]
#96157 - 08/08/04 07:39 AM (172.196.165.201)
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When I am talking about HoC losing its edge I in no way consider the fact that they let WoB and FWLM out of the war. The reason I say what I do is because the gap between their skill and the skill of the people they fight is narrowing, and has nothing to do with letting people out of a war once they surrender.
I also am not saying that HoC has gotten any worse at LW. While getting worse at fighting is one way to lose your edge, it is not the only way. To the best of my knowledge HoC hasn't gotten any less skilled at fighting. What has happened, however, is the people they are fighting have gotten MUCH better previous to what they used to be while HoC as a whole has remained at about the same fighting skill. As a result the gap between them and their foes has narrowed, meaning that HoC has lost some of the edge it used to have.
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ReLoad
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Re: Best Factions
[Re: sinsear]
#96181 - 08/08/04 07:44 PM (210.193.151.74)
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Sinsear, what do I owe you for that shameless plug?
But on a serious note, I tend to agree with the above posts regarding KzK as the best Lw’ers with a couple of footnotes:
The first time I came across kzK was when I was looking after the final throngs of Rox’s old empire “Major League”, and KzK were certainly giving it all their best, and in the end certainly had the edge even over such a wily fox as Rox. They used tactics as well as sheer persistence to win over even someone as cunning as Rox.
Next id rate the people down at UNF. The guys down there are in a similar boat to Ryuken and they really know their stuff, Weird, Warren, spook and all the crew there are really top notch tacticians and are very sound in choosing the right fight.
Probably HoC comes in next, as previously mentioned HoC has that sheer unpredictability about it, which imho is probably one of the greatest parts of our game, I always look forward to seeing what HoC are up to. Their other big trait is that they do not do things in half measures, if they go to war they really go to war. Eggy, Casper, Purg just to name a few who really know their stuff.
Now here’s where I do get biased so please excuse the next paragraph!. UDC comes in next. Obviously I cannot speak for my own abilities, and I have had some very humiliating defeats along the way but hey, that’s how you learn, UDC is very well led, with Elf, Sparhawk, Patryn to name a few. I think the difference with UDC over other factions is the second line troops, such as myself, Kit, Li Ra, Magehound, Nevyn, Ceevu, Sid, Xeno, Macca, Zartek, Bert, Uglybob, Highlight, etc etc who are all highly competent at LW in their own right. (many apologies to everyone I missed out on!)
There are many obvious exceptions and this is certainly only my view, there are many factions who certainly in their own way deserve to be counted as a top faction, and I think the list differs depending on the point of view of the author.
Id be very curious to see an in depth review of Ryuken, if someone on the inside would like to divulge on how they see themselves, only being part of R6 myself I don’t really see the big picture.
Sorry to everyone whom I didn’t mention im sure I could ramble on for hours! But ill spare you all the pain.
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sinsear
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Re: Best Factions
[Re: ReLoad]
#96185 - 08/08/04 09:42 PM (211.26.126.58)
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well, reload, we've fought before, some time ago, I happened to pick on a UDC empire and was promplty bushwacked by 4 empires, and sent packing, plus I lost my capital.
This was an impressive display of fast response, organised deployment (attacking both my forward zone and home zones) and gave me too much to worry about to continue the attack, you then had the honour to accept my surrender.
put simply, I learned a lot from that war, and as a result, became a much better lwer.
and with the whole 'who is the best lw faction' question...
well; if you count the whole faction, basing the abilities of every single member, I'd still back KzK, I've fought them, I've fought with them. They are tough bastards. They have no weak links. They are blood loyal.
HoC is a very large alliance. Not everyone knows everyone else (much like Gen, I assume) and as such, they cannot see the 'whole picture' of the alliance's interactions with nev.
It's like this; KzK is more of a SEAL style team. They have great unit integrity, and are small, but lethal.
HOC are more like geurilla warriors. They live off the land, have broad objectives passed down from above with little involvement in tactical planning, and fight best by wearing down the morale of their opponents (RL, not nev calculated)
Personally, I'd like to see a tourney that pit the top 5 KZK people vs the top 5 hoc people (all in the same style of mech)
maybe then we'd have a definitave answer.
The main difference is that HOC have many lite land warrers, while kzk (and unF if reLoad is right) are elite land warrers, from the smallest empire to the faction leader.
it's just a point of view? What's more important? numbers of elite lwers, or the percentage of elite lwers?
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GreenBeret
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Re: Best Factions
[Re: Kit_fox]
#96193 - 08/08/04 11:35 PM (128.194.30.213)
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The reason it appears we were at a standstill is because we were not really targeting WoB itself until 48-72 hours before Chet threw in the towel (when he lost hundreds of thousands of BV in the space of 2 days). Note that we gave chet several days to retrieve his login prior to this. In engagement prior to this span of time, pilots (or Chet himself) thought it was wise to hot-drop mechs on 1k cities taken by lvl 7 empires in expensive and futile attempts to catch a mech or two.
I'm not sure how many FWLM empires there were, but as single HoC/Cult empires surrenderred well over half a dozen FWLM lvl 5-7's unassisted... I'm not sure how valid your statement is about UDC. I spent most of the time spent actively fighting WoB and FWLM waiting for new targets to pop into the 6-7 range and hoped I got there before someone else did. Once an empire is below level 5 or 6 it is generally considered training material for newer people and ignored unless it becomes a nuissance.
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Chetter
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Re: Best Factions
[Re: GreenBeret]
#96194 - 08/08/04 11:52 PM (24.34.64.254)
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Hello all I guess ill give my end. I would first state that Word Of Blake did do very well over all in the last war. We did lose and I commend the forces arrayed against us for there win. I wont bitch about HoC and company as in the last war I aided Nimon on the offensive meaning we started it. HoC did actively enagege us for along period of time but for the most part it was indesisive battles. Attrition based warfare that in all they won. They had greater numbers. I did lose my main login but it wasnt stolen, what had happened was Joker thought I was in danger of it being stolen and changed it, it was 48 hours or so before we contacted him and got it back. We did use pilot logins and have alot of bp'ers so thats how we tried to keep things going and yes HoC did give me a birth of time to recove it. I would say this last war did a couple major things for us in wob. We have severial vetrain pilots now and I wanna go on record and say how very proud I am of my guys they stood up with me on there own choice we made the choice to aid our brothers in NC as the FWLM made the choice to aid us. And I wouldnt trade in them for anything my RCTs are the best in the world even if Im the only one that thinks so. You guys are the best thank you for sticking with me.
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Flameseeker
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Re: Best Factions
[Re: Chetter]
#96254 - 08/09/04 03:56 PM (66.82.9.38)
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Geez, been a while since I checked Sarna.
Thanks for all the compliments guys, although I would barely count myself a mediocre landwarrer, I'm the first to announce how godly Silvertown and Kuin are, Spynshade and the Mirumoto Clan are also very deadly LWers in our faction as well, and I know that everyone else in KzK can hold their own.
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Red_Ironholm
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Re: Best Factions
[Re: Flameseeker]
#98797 - 10/18/04 11:53 AM (217.137.172.156)
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Cool to be thought of as the best LWers, The only way i think it worked is because KzK started with experienced players such as Coyote and Jakre(FL), Before i joined KZK last year i'd never fought on neveron before and now through LW alone im usually between levels 6-7-8 and that's how i like it.
However its not about the best LW faction and i don't think there is a best faction, I enjoy all the factions I put effort into. If a faction communicates, Pilots, helps out in anyway possible then the members are gunna become close and loyal. I find my best factions are those i can talk to. I was in DEST for a while and even though i wasn't that active for them i still enjoyed it due to the comaradery (prolly spelt that wrong). I like this thread though, specially as were mentioned alot 
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dreday2001
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Re: Best Factions
[Re: Red_Ironholm]
#98836 - 10/19/04 02:56 AM (194.95.255.71)
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I miss 2 things in here.
1st DEST
2nd Cult
Not necessarly in that order but both are small and have a high percentage of veteran and elite players with strong comradry (hehehe?)
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Pimpslap
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Re: Best Factions
[Re: sinsear]
#98874 - 10/19/04 03:40 PM (68.12.203.62)
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Man dont kill people for a few months and everyone forgets about you.
Anyway i would say only 1 thing really matters about the "best LWer" and thats surviving and growing. And i dont think that anyone has done that better over the years then HoC. HoC left LIFE with 2-3 factions and about 10 active people we now have close to 15 factions with active members out the ass. Most wars we engage in are nothing more then training for new blood to get their learning in.
Dull? I dont think we have dulled in any sense, i DO thnk that LW has changed. Its rather easy for any noob to stick 40 idf 5 towers in a zone and call it defended. LW has become boring in the extreme cause of all the changes, i cant even remember last time i used mechs to war...and its ALWAYS such fun to be mid-lw and get a nice 500k in pirate bv force hitting you. I think their are several things that should be addressed that could make lw fun and viable again.
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Khan_E_F
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Re: Best Factions
[Re: Red_Ironholm]
#98979 - 10/22/04 01:13 PM (131.181.251.66)
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amen to that
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Tigre
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Re: Best Factions
[Re: Red_Ironholm]
#99054 - 10/25/04 07:34 AM (12.47.79.2)
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Yeah,
I learned LW as well from Jakre in the original Kizo. Now I try to be as good a FL as he is and teach what I know to other players. Your first FL can really make or break the game. I had a few who were never on and the faction just sat there basically. I didn't care for that.
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ggfr
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Re: Best Factions - In regards to FWLM During The Last War
[Re: Tigre]
#99090 - 10/26/04 06:41 AM (195.234.153.37)
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Sorry to drag up old stuff but I only just read the forum lol and thought I may give you my thoughts, opinions and correct any innacuracies, coming from the FWLm side.
It was with great zest that FWLM joined the war to aid its allies in times of trouble (well that's what I keep telling myself anyway). FWLM started off very well indeed and squared straight at HoC overlooking all others such as Gen. Most fights were low level raids pretty much around the level 5 mark and numerous empires on the HoC side were restricted. At this point HoC were focused mainly on the larger Nev Com empires and we took advantage of this restricting over 30 empries (although HoC deny this and I'm sure will continue to, it doesn't look good that a supposed, I use the word supposed lame faction could do so much). Not sure the exact number, time makes me forget but I think the final count was over 33 with SoH taking a significant proportion of that.and I have a feeling it was well over this amount, just time makes me forget. How am I sure of this? Well, considering I restricted 10 myself and being around 24/7, had a few weeks off work, and watching the amount of successful attacks go down things were going well. Even though we bombed out and yes it was UDC that probably finished us off coming in all fresh and un-fatigued as we were are several weeks of fighting, 3 or 4 I think it was, it was HoC that made most damage. There was a change of tact to FWLM from HoC, I expect in response to the surrenders that were mounting up and this happened to correspond to roughly about a week before UDC joined fresh and squared at and only at FWLM, no wob or nev com. Here's the correction. There was more than one faction leader restricted by enemy forces (Not exactly propoganda here for FWLM but I like the facts to be known rather than innacuracies). Pre UDC restricting one faction leader, incidently the same faction leader that had been engaged with pimp a week or so earlier and had lost a company of DP mechs before the UDC visit, 4 fl's were hit and restricted by HoC and another two involved in fights that were not restricted. As much as I'd like to believe that the stand alone at the time, FWLM group, had the resources to stand up against the far greater numbers of large size empires that HoC & Cult have, living ion the real world told me something different. I'm not sure at this point whether there was a lull in the fighting with Nev com or whether just some manpower was taken from that front but there was a huge swap over directed at FWLM. No slight on UDC, yeah you did quite some damage, you restricted a faction leader and tipped us over the edge, but if I could swap damage and have it back from any alliance it would be HoC. Remembering that one FL was dropped from 9 to 4 (several surrenders), one fl was dropped from 8 to 7 (2 surrenders), another 2 FL's were surrendered (and we're not talking 10% here) and countless smaller empires. Then came UDC battering an already battered faction. FWLM refused to pull out of the war and leave its allies although at was broken and taking yet more damage, most of which it could not do much about due to the funding constraints and so many empires being surrendered. Then came HoC's decison to no longer treat FWLM as within the war, I'm sure they knew we had taken I expect that they thouight enough damage after dealing so much of it and UDC followed suit.
HoC had the honour and integrity to respect FWLM's valiant, although beaten effort and officially announced its ending of war with FWLM with UDC following.
Now a general point for everyone. Of all the things that are said about HoC, in this matter they acted with great dignity and fairness. We are FWLM, we have no axe to grind, we hold no malice but just enjoy playing the game and I'm sure HoC amognst others recognise that. When things cross that line and empires are shattered irrepairably you must ask yourself are we actually playing a game or do we have a personal axe to grind? Some actions costs the community great players, good friends and even amusing adversairies, some ,I'm sure, you have great fun with on and off the field. Next time you're in war and have the oppurtunity to kill someones empire/s, by this I'm mainly talking about multi-surrenders, is that really what you want to do when you have no problem with that individual? Find another target, you'll enjoy the challenge of the fight a lot more.
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Disclaimer: last comments were not a pop at anyone in particular, we managed to save all but a couple of the worst affected empires in the last war, although I must admit to not being impressed with the vulture faction (a faction not in the war) that caused several of them, that started attacking already multi-surrendered empires, near direct after FWLM being withdrawn from the war. That's one for the pick another target if you ahdn't already guessed .
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Re: Best Factions - In regards to FWLM During The Last War
[Re: ggfr]
#99119 - 10/27/04 01:27 AM (211.26.122.91)
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Well, ggfr, I think you'll have more luck in the future.
Look at it this way, FWLM may have been battered, hurt and beaten, but not broken. Now, you have players with more experiance, newbies who can bp, and people who can work as a team. Is it enough to take on HoC? Probably not, but if any 'vulture' factions (I don't know which one you are tlaking about here, though I admit I am curious) try to take you on as easy pickings, it'll be much more difficult.
Kizo/NC had the same thing happen. Kizo was an unwieldy 17 faction strong force, with the reaction time and communication ability of a nursing home, but as NC, it is smaller, more compact and more effective. That's not to say that NC is invincible, but it has fewer 'soft' targets.
Also, when you go 'balls to the wall' with friends, it does create comraderie. If someone is being attacked, you'll help them any way you can because you KNOW they will do the same for you.
I've said it before, but the best indication of a good faction is LOYALTY. The people that suck with you through it all, the ones you can trust implicitly are the ones that can save your arse.
Looking forward to seeing how you go recovering ggfr.
oh, and back onto the topic; The best faction? one that has TRUST in every one of it's members.
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