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Fallstar
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Morale Limits
      #107955 - 05/16/05 01:33 AM (138.25.2.22)

Does negative morale have a limit which it cannot go beyond?
As in if I had say -100 morale compared to say -300 morale.
The only difference between the two would be that the it would take longer to see a decrease in morale penalty.

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Toontje
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Re: Morale Limits [Re: Fallstar]
      #107959 - 05/16/05 06:10 AM (84.24.165.226)

Not that I know of, but likely an integer overflow is the limit. Moral you see is relative morall as well...

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davion76
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Re: Morale Limits [Re: Fallstar]
      #107962 - 05/16/05 09:07 AM (12.219.244.44)

I remember an update about this a LONG time ago. They did cap the effects of negative morale, but I don't know what the number was.

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Toontje
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Re: Morale Limits [Re: davion76]
      #107965 - 05/16/05 10:27 AM (84.24.165.226)

The effects are capped between -25 and +100 IIRC..

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Re: Morale Limits [Re: Toontje]
      #107968 - 05/16/05 10:52 AM (172.195.109.100)

Actually it is -25% and +150% are the caps. The neg cap was put in place shortly after I started so that it would be possible for empires to recover from heavy losses. The positive cap I suggested to make it so empires wouldn't have insane incomes for there level just because the owner LWed a lot to level the playing field (at one point my level 4 had the income of a level 8 or 9 when I lwed every day o.O).

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Toontje
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Re: Morale Limits [Re: Kit_fox]
      #108043 - 05/18/05 03:52 AM (84.24.165.226)

I have to disagre Kit, it cannot be more than +100, an empire of mine has 176 moral, and doubled the tax+commerce exactly.

Tax Income $ 19,760
Commerce Income 37,638
Morale Income Adjustment 57,398

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Re: Morale Limits [Re: Toontje]
      #108057 - 05/18/05 11:43 AM (209.86.37.85)

one of my lw emps:

Tax Income $ 54,000
Commerce Income 70,414
Morale Income Adjustment 124,414

that is with 233 avg. cit moral.

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Re: Morale Limits [Re: Aunduril]
      #108065 - 05/18/05 01:39 PM (12.47.79.2)

yes, max morale income is tax income plus commerce income. If your morale income isn't equal to those added, it could be higher.

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Re: Morale Limits [Re: Toontje]
      #108088 - 05/19/05 08:01 AM (63.161.86.254)

Yup, from 06/17/04 update ...

Capped the morale income bonus. Your base income can at most double from high morale. Note that your morale can still go higher, and the effects will be that the maximum morale effect will last longer. Negative morale is still limited to a loss of 25% of your total income.

According to my empire history spreadsheet, it occurred somewhere around 07/22/3238 and my morale income dropped from 750k to 250k. At the time, I was a BV heavy level 5 and morale income was all I had for take home pay. Took almost a real life month for my economy to stabilize but ended up with a more robust economy that was less dependant on morale income.

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