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NeverSayNever
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[Neveron 2012, un-official poll] The New Training Experience (NTE) ...
      #163985 - 02/12/12 04:28 PM (78.48.165.74)

... do you like / enjoy it - or not?
Do you like / enjoy the New Training Experience (NTE)?
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Votes accepted from (02/12/12 03:21 PM) to (No end specified)
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marauderch
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Re: [Neveron 2012, un-official poll] The New Training Experience (NTE) ... [Re: NeverSayNever]
      #163990 - 02/12/12 07:20 PM (24.225.116.227)

I don't like loging in and seeing all my 8 rated vehicle drivers skilling down and my best mechwarriors skilling up...

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buc
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Re: [Neveron 2012, un-official poll] The New Training Experience (NTE) ... [Re: marauderch]
      #163993 - 02/12/12 08:55 PM (210.86.1.168)

I think its awesome. I have no active military in my empires since they are single city, so yeah, awesome!

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Malachi
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Re: [Neveron 2012, un-official poll] The New Training Experience (NTE) ... [Re: buc]
      #164000 - 02/13/12 04:20 AM (90.217.232.119)

Havn't been fully following. Is this on top of maintenance or is this replacing maintenance? If its replacing it, then I think its pretty good. If its yet another cost I think its a little much

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Re: [Neveron 2012, un-official poll] The New Training Experience (NTE) ... [Re: Malachi]
      #164005 - 02/13/12 05:01 AM (128.243.253.104)

On top of.

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Re: [Neveron 2012, un-official poll] The New Training Experience (NTE) ... [Re: Malachi]
      #164020 - 02/13/12 11:56 AM (12.171.57.50)

It is basically doubling current maintenance.......so if your currently paying 15mill a Nday, normal training is 15 mill. Expert training would be like 100 mill.

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Re: [Neveron 2012, un-official poll] The New Training Experience (NTE) ... [Re: Pimpslap]
      #164021 - 02/13/12 12:14 PM (84.127.161.179)

another cost malachi, basivally it makes that any empire that want to have a decent military wont have money for anything else.

Any empire that wants to have money for anything else will have a gunnery 5-8 army.

There is another joke: Any empire who is not war ready becouse of gunnery and wants to go to war will need about 3 and a half month for training any 8/8 unit to something around 2-4.


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Malachi
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Re: [Neveron 2012, un-official poll] The New Training Experience (NTE) ... [Re: rantamplan]
      #164029 - 02/13/12 05:25 PM (109.246.128.150)

Ah right, ok. Wow, to be honest I would have thought the old system of setting the maint rate would be far more player friendly...

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marauderch
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Re: [Neveron 2012, un-official poll] The New Training Experience (NTE) ... [Re: Malachi]
      #164030 - 02/13/12 05:33 PM (24.225.116.227)

player friendly? what is that???

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buc
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Re: [Neveron 2012, un-official poll] The New Training Experience (NTE) ... [Re: marauderch]
      #164035 - 02/13/12 07:22 PM (210.86.1.168)

Malachi, normal training is = maint costs (INCLUDING uncommed units), and Max training is 10x maint

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Re: [Neveron 2012, un-official poll] The New Training Experience (NTE) ... [Re: buc]
      #164038 - 02/13/12 08:18 PM (24.17.137.174)

Its worse than just cost. They don't actually do crap all for your skills. Best setting under old system would actually improve your empire. You might even get - gun. Under this new system with logarythmic difficulty to skill down, you have a brainiac gunner if he gets 4 gun. I've been running "extremely high" training setting in a small testing empire and I have had my units skilling up from 5 gun to 6, with the only skilldowns being 8 to 7 gun. So even at extgremely high my army seems to be balancing out at a 6 gun average.

Its just like everything else... the basic underlying idea has merit, but the implementation is horrid.

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Re: [Neveron 2012, un-official poll] The New Training Experience (NTE) ... [Re: Katrar]
      #164039 - 02/13/12 08:36 PM (60.241.43.86)

it would be great if it was implemented alongside the old training system. empire wide training along with more specific unit training for the dummies...

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Re: [Neveron 2012, un-official poll] The New Training Experience (NTE) ... [Re: dieaready]
      #164043 - 02/14/12 01:09 AM (109.246.128.150)

I have to admit Katrar that I noticed the same. Had a soldier drop for 4 to 3 gun in my lev 3 (veh gunner) only for the next set to reveal that the original 3 veh gunner I had in another tank skilled up to 4. That was the best of it. So far the majority of skill downs are on low skill, and the skill ups have hit the decent gunned units.

Now, I do think we need to wait maybe 2-4 weeks for the system to balance out - remember that as it hasn't run before there will be no block on what skills up and what doesnt due to time. So in short we need more time to assess this.

Also I think now we will see empires saving for a "training phase", turning their training up for a week or 2, then down to a manageable level again.


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Re: [Neveron 2012, un-official poll] The New Training Experience (NTE) ... [Re: NeverSayNever]
      #164074 - 02/15/12 01:22 PM (78.50.198.104)

14 votes total so far.

IMVHO it's way too early to post any results - or trends, so if you want to see any early results then please vote and feel free to take a look at the results, but please try to keep your knowledge to yourself, no need to spoil the voting for those who did not vote so far, don't you agree? - Thanks in advance!


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Re: [Neveron 2012, un-official poll] The New Training Experience (NTE) ... [Re: marauderch]
      #164075 - 02/15/12 01:45 PM (78.50.198.104)

technical side note:

While I do appreciate the discussion getting rejuvenated by the poll it might have been better for the poll if the discussion took place elsewhere (seperate thread) - simply because now interested parties (like ShadowMaster) may simply claim that the poll's results have been influenced / 'spoiled' by the discussion within the poll's thread.


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Re: [Neveron 2012, un-official poll] The New Training Experience (NTE) ... [Re: NeverSayNever]
      #164080 - 02/15/12 05:22 PM (128.243.253.104)

And if it's not within the thread, he can simply claim it was hijacked by people who didn't care enough to actually write an opinion.

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Re: [Neveron 2012, un-official poll] The New Training Experience (NTE) ... [Re: NeverSayNever]
      #164980 - 03/29/12 02:07 PM (92.228.11.217)

23 votes total so far, representing approx. 18 percent (rounded up) of current daily logins ("Unique Logins (past 24 hours): 128").


Poll is still open, please feel free to vote if you haven't already. Thanks in advance!


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buc
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Re: [Neveron 2012, un-official poll] The New Training Experience (NTE) ... [Re: NeverSayNever]
      #164988 - 03/29/12 07:31 PM (210.86.1.168)

18% of logins is prob a much higher % of those who login to the forums.

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rantamplan
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Re: [Neveron 2012, un-official poll] The New Training Experience (NTE) ... [Re: buc]
      #164989 - 03/30/12 02:12 AM (193.144.201.49)

It wont rise any more, 20% answer is what you can expect of any pool, when I raise a pool on my website about anything people dont really answer.

I have 500 daily visits and I'm lucky if when teh pool ends I have more than 50 replies...


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