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Hythos
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Unit kills not increasing Rep?
      #164454 - 02/23/12 04:57 PM (137.78.94.87)

With a new Empire, I had moved my Emporer into a larger vehicle, and successfully defeated 8 enemy jeeps (newbie jeeps, yes).

His Reputation is still -.04, and he has not received any Combat checks.
Is this expected?


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buc
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Re: Unit kills not increasing Rep? [Re: Hythos]
      #164455 - 02/23/12 05:42 PM (210.86.1.168)

Killing newbie jeeps will give a tiny amount of rep at best. He would have received checks, but I guess not enough to skill down

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Re: Unit kills not increasing Rep? [Re: buc]
      #164644 - 03/05/12 08:04 AM (193.144.201.49)

could be that its ok.


Rep award comes in the terms of 2 things: The unit killed and the reputation of the killed unit.

not sure how much rep you willl receive forkilling a jeep, but would bet itll be near "0", if the enemy pilot had no rep (or even negative) you wouldn't get any rep from there either, so maybe its ok.

talking about the checks: Old "overal war skill checks" are no more so you will get nothing from winning a war or a raid (at least not in check terms). Units used to get checks when killing other units, not sure if thats in place now but even then those checks depended on your/his Bv ratio, sokilling jeeps with a heavy vehicle will award nothing, nowadays youll get awarded some kind of check each time your units open fire, you should at least get that, but my experience with emperors is that they tend to skill down really really slow. If any.

Hopes this clarifies things for you.


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Hythos
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Re: Unit kills not increasing Rep? [Re: rantamplan]
      #164648 - 03/05/12 10:19 AM (137.78.94.87)

Well, when I meant larger vehicle, I meant larger than a 5-ton jeep.

I had put the pilot into a Guardian (MkII); Attacked two empires and destroyed 8 jeeps total with the same unit. In either engagement, the tonnage was the same, and all jeeps were rep 0.00.

In the end, my units' rep is the same... SO, I could only assume that I should use a Savannah Master on my next test.


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Re: Unit kills not increasing Rep? [Re: Hythos]
      #164653 - 03/05/12 10:43 AM (72.77.197.22)

it could be a refreash issue i seen in the past your unit list wont match your active unit info for hrs sometimes days? ive seen the same thing for old kill skill downs. you active unit in war will have a diff skill listed then the unit list. l8rs DABOSS

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rantamplan
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Re: Unit kills not increasing Rep? [Re: cbtgod]
      #164654 - 03/05/12 10:45 AM (193.144.201.49)

no, that wont work either.

For the rep earned your unit doesnt mather, it only mathers the enemy unit and the enemy rep.

For the skill checks for killing an enemy units it does mather, (If skill checks are still awarded forkilling units), then the ratio "yourBv"/"enemyBV" enters into acount.


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Hythos
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Re: Unit kills not increasing Rep? [Re: rantamplan]
      #164655 - 03/05/12 11:08 AM (137.78.94.87)

I've *finally* just seen an increase just now...
I had attacked another noob, whom defended with 4 noob jeeps and an Urbanmech (rep +.04).
Destroyed all (poor Urbanmechs really get the short-end of the stick ), and his rep increased to +1.44.
Though, no skill-checks were received.

** Edit -- How is salvaging supposed to work? The Urbanmech was CT'd out, but the AC/10 was undamaged. The persons' main zone was NOT taken... does the salvage remain there / his?

Edited by Hythos (03/05/12 11:11 AM)


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Re: Unit kills not increasing Rep? [Re: Hythos]
      #164662 - 03/05/12 02:25 PM (161.184.189.112)

When a mech is salvaged it stays in the zone it was destroyed in. If you do not take the zone in war, then yes they get to keep it. It will show as !! in the zone, even though you may own it, as well under Armory/Mechs it will say you have salvage.

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Re: Unit kills not increasing Rep? [Re: Phred]
      #164677 - 03/05/12 06:16 PM (72.77.197.22)

you can move your salvage by selling it to yourself. the active zone you are in is where it will be moved. l8rs DABOSS

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Re: Unit kills not increasing Rep? [Re: cbtgod]
      #164704 - 03/07/12 04:32 AM (60.241.43.86)

You have a 50% chance of salvaging a mech if its CT is destroyed or so I heard. It will appear as a double kill (unit killed 2 times in a row) but if you have other units shooting at it and kill it again, it is gone. Death by other means like headcap, explosion, engine crit, will not yield salvage.

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Re: Unit kills not increasing Rep? [Re: dieaready]
      #164790 - 03/12/12 12:01 PM (137.78.94.42)

Was this what you were meaning?



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Wolfhound fires a LL at [STR-01] Striker (LRM15) 0001, needing a 9 to hit and rolling a 3. A miss!
[STR-01] Striker (LRM15) 0001 fires a LRM-15 at Wolfhound, needing a 8 to hit and rolling a 3. A miss!


Phase #24

Wolfhound hits [GOB-33E] Goblin with a ML on the front side for 5 points
Wolfhound hits [GOB-33E] Goblin with a ML on the front side for 5 points
Wolfhound hits [GOB-33E] Goblin with a ML on the front side for 5 points
Wolfhound hits [GOB-33E] Goblin with a LL on the front side for 8 points
[GOB-33E] Goblin hits Wolfhound with a LL on the left arm for 8 points
Wolfhound has had its left arm destroyed by [GOB-33E] Goblin!
8 points of damage transfers to the LT of Wolfhound!
8 points of damage transfers to the CT of Wolfhound!
[STR-01] Striker (LRM15) 0001 hits Wolfhound with a LRM-15 on the center torso for 5 points
Wolfhound has had its center torso destroyed by [STR-01] Striker (LRM15) 0001!
Wolfhound has been destroyed by [STR-01] Striker (LRM15) 0001!
Wolfhound has been destroyed by [STR-01] Striker (LRM15) 0001!
[STR-01] Striker (LRM15) 0001 hits Wolfhound with a LRM-15 on the center torso for 2 points
Wolfhound has had its center torso destroyed by [STR-01] Striker (LRM15) 0001!
Wolfhound has been destroyed by [STR-01] Striker (LRM15) 0001!
Wolfhound has been destroyed by [STR-01] Striker (LRM15) 0001!
[STR-01] Striker (LRM15) 0002 hits Wolfhound with a LRM-15 on the right leg for 5 points
[STR-01] Striker (LRM15) 0002 hits Wolfhound with a LRM-15 on the right arm for 4 points
A crewman in the unit [GOB-33E] Goblin has learned from this battle. His Driver skill has been improved to 7.
A crewman in the unit [STR-01] Striker (LRM15) 0002 has learned from this battle. His Driver skill has been improved to 4.


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dieaready
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Re: Unit kills not increasing Rep? [Re: Hythos]
      #164794 - 03/12/12 08:15 PM (60.241.43.86)

Wolfhound has been destroyed by [STR-01] Striker (LRM15) 0001!
Wolfhound has been destroyed by [STR-01] Striker (LRM15) 0001!

yeah, that, except it happened twice, so i'm not too sure. did you get the salvage?

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Hythos
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Re: Unit kills not increasing Rep? [Re: dieaready]
      #164820 - 03/14/12 08:53 AM (137.78.94.42)

Quote:

Wolfhound has been destroyed by [STR-01] Striker (LRM15) 0001!
Wolfhound has been destroyed by [STR-01] Striker (LRM15) 0001!

yeah, that, except it happened twice, so i'm not too sure. did you get the salvage?




I didn't win the zone, and checking in any of my zone's Armory->Mechs, I have none... Though that's the only location I could imagine it would be. SO, if that is correct, then no, I have no tamales.

Thank you for helping!


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Re: Unit kills not increasing Rep? [Re: Hythos]
      #164920 - 03/21/12 10:05 PM (24.103.210.226)

i have not confirmed any of this, but ive been told that second listing of the mech being killed in that same round of attacks is what destroys the previously salvaged mech.

the first listing of it destroyed is when it salvaged, the second listing of it getting destroyed is when the salvage was then destroyed

again i have not confirmed any of this, but that is what some players have stated based on their experiences

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Re: Unit kills not increasing Rep? [Re: ShadowMasterCM]
      #164922 - 03/21/12 10:18 PM (74.193.51.193)

its been confirmed by people that have actually warred in the game for about 4 years now.

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Re: Unit kills not increasing Rep? [Re: DeathStar]
      #164924 - 03/22/12 01:56 AM (50.137.208.91)

lmao

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Re: Unit kills not increasing Rep? [Re: KJI_3x6]
      #164925 - 03/22/12 06:27 AM (128.243.253.104)

Ow.

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Re: Unit kills not increasing Rep? [Re: mattbuck]
      #164931 - 03/22/12 04:16 PM (161.184.189.112)

Guy shows up for 5 seconds and gets beat down. Nicely done DS.

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Re: Unit kills not increasing Rep? [Re: Hythos]
      #164938 - 03/22/12 06:54 PM (76.114.40.214)

Quote:

Was this what you were meaning?

Phase #24

[STR-01] Striker (LRM15) 0001 hits Wolfhound with a LRM-15 on the center torso for 5 points
Wolfhound has had its center torso destroyed by [STR-01] Striker (LRM15) 0001!
Wolfhound has been destroyed by [STR-01] Striker (LRM15) 0001!
Wolfhound has been destroyed by [STR-01] Striker (LRM15) 0001!
[STR-01] Striker (LRM15) 0001 hits Wolfhound with a LRM-15 on the center torso for 2 points
Wolfhound has had its center torso destroyed by [STR-01] Striker (LRM15) 0001!
Wolfhound has been destroyed by [STR-01] Striker (LRM15) 0001!
Wolfhound has been destroyed by [STR-01] Striker (LRM15) 0001!




thats good the same unit can hit the target over and over again and still salvage the Mech

Quote:


[STR-01] Striker (LRM15) 0002 hits Wolfhound with a LRM-15 on the right leg for 5 points
[STR-01] Striker (LRM15) 0002 hits Wolfhound with a LRM-15 on the right arm for 4 points
A crewman in the unit [GOB-33E] Goblin has learned from this battle. His Driver skill has been improved to 7.
A crewman in the unit [STR-01] Striker (LRM15) 0002 has learned from this battle. His Driver skill has been improved to 4.




soon as another unit hits the target after its been salvaged say by by to the mech, salvage destroyed! . still gotta take the zone after you salvaged the unit and I believe CT destruction gives a 20% chance of salvage and headshot a 10%

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Re: Unit kills not increasing Rep? [Re: GwB]
      #164942 - 03/22/12 10:19 PM (210.86.1.168)

CT kill is 50% salvage and a headshot is 0% salvage

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