wartang
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heat waepon
#77768 - 12/06/03 09:27 AM (209.201.75.83)
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me and my brother were talking and we came up with this idea
mount an I.C.engine (jet engine with and after buner) in an arm and use it like a flamer just wonder ing what the forum thought about this idea
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Silenced_Sonix
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Re: heat waepon
[Re: wartang]
#77781 - 12/06/03 12:18 PM (168.209.97.34)
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You can be glad it's late, or I'd have flamed you to death for that...
Use common sense: an ICE unit takes up something like six criticals, and weights a lot. You want to use it as a flamer, which weights much less, and takes up less space. Why bother?
PS: if you knew anything about jet afterburners, you'd know they don't have the range, the fuel efficiency or the right delivery method to be effect as flamers.
PS2: this is not a flame, I'm just stating an opinion.
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tgsofgc
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Re: heat waepon
[Re: wartang]
#77786 - 12/06/03 01:40 PM (67.4.200.247)
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It could be intressting though I doubt it would even be as effective as a famer. Namely the raw exhaust wouldn't have much of a usable range in battletech, note each hex is 30 meters or approx 90 feet. I'd assume it 'd only have a range of one, and the prohibitive weight of the dedicated ICE would likely make the weapon all but useless. Especially with the risk of the arm causing a relatively devestating explosion if the "jet engine" is hit.
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Cray
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Flamers, Jet Engines, and Lions, Oh My
[Re: wartang]
#77923 - 12/07/03 04:51 PM (68.200.106.99)
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Well, the standard (energy weapon) flamer is a first cousin of the jump jet. The flamer inhales local air (or some stored reaction mass, if in a vacuum) and superheats it with a burst of energy (microwaves, electrons, lasers, etc.) This fusion-powered blast of uber-hot air then does enough damage to ablate off several hundred kilograms of armor from a target. It can also raise the heat of a target 2 points, if using the option flamer rule.
In comparison, a jet engine's exhaust temperature doesn't get hot enough to ablate armor. It also tends to move a lot of air then lowers the temperature - there's a scene in "Forest Gump," on the shrimping boat in the hurricane, which was created by aiming a jet engine at the boat and live actors (plus some hoses for the spray. The temp on the deck was about 120F).
I don't think a jet engine would perform as well as a flamer, or even a vehicle flamer (which sprays the target with burning, jellied fuel.) You might get a point of heat out of it, or bowl over infantry with the gust of wind, but I wouldn't expect great heat raises out of it.
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Diablo
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Re: heat waepon
[Re: wartang]
#79238 - 12/27/03 03:10 PM (24.114.50.190)
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i'd like to point out that a jet engine provides thrust enbough to propell multi toned fighters. now, strap that to a mech and let it go. what happens?
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Cray
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Re: heat waepon
[Re: Diablo]
#79253 - 12/28/03 04:48 PM (68.202.157.248)
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Quote:
i'd like to point out that a jet engine provides thrust enbough to propell multi toned fighters. now, strap that to a mech and let it go. what happens?
You have a jump jet or fuel-guzzling VTOL. See: jump jets. They deliver comparable levels of thrust - a 100-ton mech won't get off the ground on a 1G planet without having a bit over 100 tons of thrust, which would require 3 of the engines being fitted to the F-22 or the JSF/F-35.
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