Oh they love it tough but wining is more important. They don't like losers, so if they make it to tough and fail no one is going to care what odds where all that is going to be said is that they failed.
-------------------- Why argue if the glass is half full or half empty, when you know someone is going to knock it over and spill it anyways.
I was a Major before *pain*
But I got a promotion.
I am now a General *pain*
Yay for promotions!!!