http://www.sarna.net/forums/ubbthreads.php Sarna: Neveron Sarna.net Classic BattleTech Forums - UBB.threads(tm) http://www.sarna.net/forums/showflat.php?Number=151802 This post is what was off topic from a conversation I satred in sugestion changed additions, moved it here so people can discuss it withouth interfere in the conversation we started there. - CBTGOD - the cowards that prey on noobs and noob factions is what has done the damage to neveron. just look at the dp whores on noob island why are they there? bottom line it is the veterans of this game that has driven away new players. - Primushoppy - meh its because the veterans get bored. I have a standing policy in my factions that no one is to be on noob island. i thought hoc was going to be doing the same when i talked to kato, but now he quit and nothing was ever done....woohoo for hoc's nonexistant honor once again screwing this game over - Katrar - This thread was brought to my attention, and though I don't play any longer I would like to respond. The following announcement was made in the HoC forums on April 16th, 2008. Quote: ----------------------------------------------- -- rantamplan 09/02/08 10:09 AM http://www.sarna.net/forums/showflat.php?Number=151802 http://www.sarna.net/forums/showflat.php?Number=151789 Data recovery 'specialists' / hobby 'archeologists' from the "Dirtcheap Products for Survival Group" managed to salvage some data (an old resources marketplace price list) from an old harddrive, dating back to December, 09th, 2003. Neveron, December, 09th, 2003, resources (prices): Quote: Resource Units Cost per Unit Seller Basic Metals 1,691 1,000 Kell Hounds Empire Basic Metals 7,011 1,000 Sharpe's Kingdom Basic Metals 744 1,000 Unfortunate Gentlemen Basic Metals 500 1,000 bobbyvilli Basic Metals 933 1,049 2nd Kearny Highlanders Basic Metals 229 1,050 {FS} Fire Snake Basic Metals 225 1,050 Vanguard Legion Basic Metals 338 1,050 Huey Mechworks Basic Metals 32,700 1,050 Steiner Basic Metals 837 1,099 Silver Blade Basic Metals 8,904 1,100 Sares Basic Metals 1,475 1,100 Clan Mongoose , Viking Warriors Basic Metals 7,207 1,100 Frozen Chosen, The Hunting Pack Basic Metals 960 1,100 Calania Basic Metals 1,000 1,100 SOL 9 Basic Metals 117 1,1 -- NeverSayNever 08/30/08 02:11 PM http://www.sarna.net/forums/showflat.php?Number=151789 http://www.sarna.net/forums/showflat.php?Number=151777 This is more of a thought experiment, but I thought I toss this one out for people to chew on. In another post, someone mentioned the idea of having objectives in LW, like "kill the general". Thinking on that particular objective led me to thinking about the idea of having "hero soldiers" in your empire. "Hero soldiers" would be special characters within your empire that would have a greater than normal affect on battles and empire morale than standard soldiers. These soldiers, extremely rare, would also allow for some role-play aspect that Neveron currently lacks. Neveron soldiers and characters currently exist as a name/number, a set of skill levels, and a reputation score. For the vast majority of soldiers in Neveron this is enough. But it seems to me that there could be a role for special characters within a player's empire that can offer more; allowing for better narratives should some wish to take up role-playing as well as empire growth, as well as special skills and obje -- DuncanMons 08/29/08 04:59 PM http://www.sarna.net/forums/showflat.php?Number=151777 http://www.sarna.net/forums/showflat.php?Number=151763 Love your NOOB - The idea of NooB factions as an alternative to NOOB is and has been bandied about a little in chat and in forums. Thing is when I thought about it some more, it becomes clear that it is actually something that could be put together and administered by the playerbase...IF we could trust each other to do it. Construction - To begin with - 2x factions. Ok so NooBs have to go through the island process. However, it can be made abundantly clear through forums, NooBmail, pubmail and chat that NooBs can be moved off the island, even very early in the piece, to main nev planet under the protection of Faction A or B. The faction leader of each faction Im thinking would need to be at least level 9 to ensure that lots of space for 50+ Noob emps of lvl 1,2,3 to join. Each faction is led by a quality nev veteran who has a good reputation overall and can be trusted to keep nev faction politics out of the nurturing of Noobs. Further consideration would need to be given as to how -- Marathon 08/25/08 07:20 PM http://www.sarna.net/forums/showflat.php?Number=151763 http://www.sarna.net/forums/showflat.php?Number=151756 I'm selling my level 5/6 emp. Mechs are: 3xON-1LW, MAD-4A, 4x GRFs, 4x jump Heavies, plus additional Trainer Mechs/Pilots. Most mechs Upgraded. Keep in mind you can't upgrade level 5 mechs anymore... Pop is already nicely spread in Tents. (usual small emp setup) Cash: +3Bill Bid: Is 70US$ Please contact me in chat. #Frin is the channel I hang around. Thx Dag -- Dag 08/23/08 10:29 AM http://www.sarna.net/forums/showflat.php?Number=151756 http://www.sarna.net/forums/showflat.php?Number=151731 (Disclaimer: this is my vision of nev-problems and nev-solutions, feel free to discuss but as I allways ask in chat, BE POLITE, if you want to be rude against someone, or someone opinions, please open a new thread). Nowdays Neveron has 2 problems: - People cant actually “play” it (understanding it as doing what they want as long as its within rules limits, the point here is that 99% of actions you make on your empires is forced by game rules) - Nev community is full of hate and bad behaviour. Those 2 points must be solved for making neveron a viable game again, and both problems must be solved changing game rules, lets analyse the problems for finding solutions. 1st, Playing nev: (don’t want to extend too much my post so ill write only the main idea if you want we can discuss it laters) Nowdays most actions on neveron are forced, for example, you are forced to war or fake raiding for keeping a decent army, you are forced to have some infra to accommodate your army, you are for -- rantamplan 08/19/08 05:09 AM http://www.sarna.net/forums/showflat.php?Number=151731 http://www.sarna.net/forums/showflat.php?Number=151719 Word of Blake is up for sale now that I have The Davinian Protectorate. Trying to see what I can get for it and if it's enough for me to want to sell. Empire has 31 Mechs outside the stable, Only 7 0 gunners, the rest are negative. Features a -4 gun IMP with 3 PPCs and 3 -3 gun imps as well as some other -3 gun mechs and -2 and of course -1. can build RB lvl 4, is cored out for the most part. No empire has yet to dow it since I redid its defenses. I don't think anyone wants to :-P Anyway, PM me offers here or on IRC, i can be found in #WoB as PrimusHoppy. -- PrimusHoppy 08/16/08 03:01 PM http://www.sarna.net/forums/showflat.php?Number=151719 http://www.sarna.net/forums/showflat.php?Number=151693 HEy all! I recently had a war and in rough terms it was the most boring thing i have done in months if not years (and i was lucky and had tons fo things to do so couldnt expend much time in nev), therefore (now that the war is over and i dont go leaving unfinished stuff) i think its time to start thinking on moving on. I have decided to raise my main empire for selling and see how much i can get for it, im not in a hurry for selling and i wont necesary acept the higher bid (i mean, for me the person means something, there is some people out there i would give the empire for free, there are some other i wont give the empire :P ). Im sorry i cant sell GBWs, although some people consider the emprie mine, it isnt, i just fixed it and it will stay were it is. highlights mechs are: Nemesis 1/1 thats all :P It happens when you play the game withouth considering the mechs the key fo the game, thanks to kato wich gifted the mech to me. I can add 2 IMPs, a banshee 3S, 6 AWE , 4 thunde -- rantamplan 08/12/08 03:11 AM http://www.sarna.net/forums/showflat.php?Number=151693 http://www.sarna.net/forums/showflat.php?Number=151688 im sorry to hear about your issues in your personal life and my prayers are with you. that been said i started this post as a way to show you some of us even though we are a little ticked off still support this game. that been said i know you read these forums from time to time if poss could you give us a heads up on your veiws for nevs future. -- cbtgod 08/10/08 10:06 PM http://www.sarna.net/forums/showflat.php?Number=151688 http://www.sarna.net/forums/showflat.php?Number=151668 This thread is to keep track of all op abuse in #neveron, feel free to post anything you see. right knowy cuz hoppy never cheats I believe a rule is to not imply or even discuss cheating in gen chat, only in PM. -- PrimusHoppy 08/09/08 02:34 PM http://www.sarna.net/forums/showflat.php?Number=151668 http://www.sarna.net/forums/showflat.php?Number=151658 Seems there are still more than a few wars month by month. Perhaps in lieu of the complete dearth of RP seen on these forums the past couple years, "reports" of some of these wars could be written up. Kills/losses, battlefield commendations (within factions, alliances, whatever), notable battles, etc. Straight facts, story driven, up to you guys. All I know is that Neveorn used to see a lot of little RP. Nobody expects things to ever return back to 2001 with public nevmail full of a hundred pages a day, but really... how many hundreds of wars are fought a month? How many are worth remembering? I bet at least one. This forum, the RP forum, can be fun again, even if it never becomes massively popular again. Fun is good enough though, isn't it? (And I'm talking to everyone. Not just oldies. Not just big emps. Not just battles that kill Rhinos. I'm also talking to you, mr level 3 noob, fresh off the island. Maybe your stories can be the next big thing here on these too-dead forums) -- Katrar 08/08/08 07:49 AM http://www.sarna.net/forums/showflat.php?Number=151658 http://www.sarna.net/forums/showflat.php?Number=151625 Hey guys, checking in to see any of the old dogs are left around? -- BatmanTWB 08/03/08 09:39 PM http://www.sarna.net/forums/showflat.php?Number=151625 http://www.sarna.net/forums/showflat.php?Number=151560 i myself took a break from neveron for almost 2 months. i have to say after this that i feel act better. i see alot of people in the forums and public mails that well just need a break from neveron? bottom line this is only a game. and even though myself and others have real $$$$$$$$ in this game it is only a game. its not any diff from any pay to play game. the wws sit is rather shocking to say the least. but i do think maybe he just needs some time to get his life in order, and poss get a freash veiw of neverons future. updates would be nice. i guess my point is if you get to that i hate neveron point just take a break. the one good thing about neveron is most of us can rebuild in a few days other higher lvl empires in a week or 2. it would be nice to try and get some rping in neveron? im happy to say the neveron player base has done a great job in trying to change and become a more positive game. -- cbtgod 08/01/08 02:05 AM http://www.sarna.net/forums/showflat.php?Number=151560 http://www.sarna.net/forums/showflat.php?Number=151501 Whats the highest reputation you have achevied on FFA??? (If you can remember) -- TheKiller 07/29/08 04:46 PM http://www.sarna.net/forums/showflat.php?Number=151501 http://www.sarna.net/forums/showflat.php?Number=151467 I just saw "Welcome to our newest member, PrimusHoppy" at the bottom of my screen and I have to ask: What percent of the 3,770 users on these forums are yours? :P -- Katrar 07/28/08 01:40 PM http://www.sarna.net/forums/showflat.php?Number=151467 http://www.sarna.net/forums/showflat.php?Number=151359 Pilot started out with 0 rep. Had one battle, killed some jeeps and geckos, got .12 rep. Went into second battle, and pilot dropped to -0.63 rep. No duels were fought. only these two battles were fought with this pilot and mech. Second battle, killed a light mech. No rep change. any ideas? -- Fang 07/23/08 10:30 AM http://www.sarna.net/forums/showflat.php?Number=151359 http://www.sarna.net/forums/showflat.php?Number=151269 Rules of Combat If the enemy is in range, so are you. Incoming fire has the right of way. Don't look conspicuous: it draws fire. The easy way is always mined. Try to look unimportant, they may be low on ammo. Professionals are predictable, it's the amateurs that are dangerous. The enemy invariably attacks on one of two occasions: When you're ready for them. When you're not ready for them. Teamwork is essential; it gives the enemy someone else to shoot at. If you can't remember, the claymore is pointed at you. If your attack is going well, you have walked into an ambush. Don't draw fire, it irritates the people around you. The only thing more accurate than incoming enemy fire is incoming friendly fire. When the pin is pulled, Mr. Grenade is not our friend. If it's stupid but works, it isn't stupid. When in doubt empty the magazine. Never share a fox hole with anyone braver than you. Anything you do can get you shot. Including doing nothing. Make it too tough for the -- Kelly 07/15/08 01:33 PM http://www.sarna.net/forums/showflat.php?Number=151269 http://www.sarna.net/forums/showflat.php?Number=151266 Currently, the value of the top 100 empires by wealth has an aggregate estimate total of $2.3 trillion nev dollars. This figure is excessively lower than the amount of cash on hand in March of 2008. This total was at an estimated $3.4 trillion nev dollars. What is the cause of this shrinkage of wealth and how we can prevent what threatens us as a viable game? The first argument by the naysayer is that wealth is being more evenly distributed between the empires. This is a serious question, is wealth parity converging, or is there an underlying cause? Let’s define money. Money is a medium of exchange. It is accepted by all parties so that we can trade with someone regardless of both parties agreeing on what to trade and therefore enables economic growth in productivity and the sort. In Neveron, money serves several purposes. It isn’t a mere medium to exchange goods, it also has intrinsic wealth in itself. For example, declaring war, raiding, hot dropping, tooling TCs, and buying mech -- jake 07/15/08 09:54 AM http://www.sarna.net/forums/showflat.php?Number=151266 http://www.sarna.net/forums/showflat.php?Number=151251 I'd just like to point out that today marks a full 3 months that there has been no word from WWS. I don't count the two private responses to MB and SM, just for that reason: they were private. Neveron. Leaderless, rudderless, abandoned. It is ironic and insulting that during this time the community has made so many strides to improve its overall character, and been met with stony silence on WWS's part. I just want to take a moment on this 3 month milestone to say to you, Wayward Son, that you can go to hell. Your abandonment of this community that has given you so much is utterly reprehensible and no excuse on your part, at this point, will ever be sufficient to rectify what you have done. Shame. Shame. Shame. And to all of you players that are still here... from DEST to EFS to Legion, all my HoC brothers and sisters, all the indies and all the noobs (clueless and otherwise)... thanks for still being here. As a community we have had many troubles, but in the end we are all we've got -- Katrar 07/14/08 05:13 AM http://www.sarna.net/forums/showflat.php?Number=151251 http://www.sarna.net/forums/showflat.php?Number=151137 bear in mind and this info is for the new players if there are any, that sometimes your mechs will come up with flagged as damaged. this is a a bug just check your mechs on the info sheet for critts etc if there are none your good to go. sometimes the manual flag option will work sometimes not. ive got supposed damaged mechs that are fine for over 2 yrs now lol. -- cbtgod 07/05/08 04:07 PM http://www.sarna.net/forums/showflat.php?Number=151137