Talk:Blackjack (BattleMech)

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Name[edit]

The title of the article is Blackjack (Mech) because there is a planet with the name Blackjack. --Revanche 15:20, 9 October 2006 (CDT)

BJ-3 issue[edit]

(copied over from various talk pages as it really pertains to this article only)

Hello. You wrote that most of the St. Ives BJ-3 Blackjacks were turned over to the Federated Suns. Can you provide the source and page number? Thanks. Aldous (talk) 18:34, 13 November 2013 (PST)

He, iam confused, the source links are added to the variant! You found the info in Objective Raids.--Doneve (talk) 18:44, 13 November 2013 (PST)
I checked the sources and they do NOT say this. I took the time and looked at every source in the entire article and they don't say that either. I will be correcting these massive errors in the future.Aldous (talk) 21:17, 13 November 2013 (PST)

Hello. The Battlepack entry seems to conflict with TRO 3050U. Opinions on how to resolve conflict if any? Aldous (talk) 21:40, 13 November 2013 (PST)

Interesting, didn't know there was conflicting information. Since I don't seem to have TRO3050U, could you cite the relevant passage please? Frabby (talk) 03:55, 14 November 2013 (PST)
The St. Ives Compact deployed their BJ-3 variant extensively with their St. Ives Armored Cavalry, and a number of BJ-3s entered service with Federated Commonwealth troops stationed in the Compact.
Variants Produced on St. Ives, the BJ-3 replaces the AC/2s with Ceres Arms Smasher PPCs and retains the medium lasers. Although one ::heat sink is removed, the ten that remain are upgraded.
The Battlepack claims most BJ-3 and technology were handed over to FedSun but both Objective Raids and TRO:3050U both state the mech is still being made and deployed in St. Ives by 3071.Aldous (talk) 04:59, 14 November 2013 (PST)
So the majority of the BJ-3s produced up to a certain date (possibly the in-universe publication date of the Battlepack) were handed over to the Federated Suns or Federated Commonwealth, but production continued domestically within the St. Ives Compact, predominantly but not exclusively for St. Ives Compact forces, after that date and up until at least 3071 (or 3079 if the variant is listed in Objectives: Capellan Confederation). I don't see a conflict. BrokenMnemonic (talk) 05:55, 14 November 2013 (PST)
Thanks for the quote Aldous. I agree with BrokenMnemonic, there is not necessarily a disconnect here. But the TRO3050U text clarifies that the line from BattlePack 4th SW doesn't hold true in the future. I'll amend the article text accordingly. Frabby (talk) 07:09, 14 November 2013 (PST)
Thanks for catching this comment on my talk page, Doneve & Frabby. As you probably deduced, it was actually CJKeys who provided the data, but (regardless0, it sounds like you guys figured out the best interpretation of the material.--Revanche (talk|contribs) 13:40, 27 November 2013 (PST)