Talk:Crescent Moon

Katana?

Errr, that sword does not look like a katana, a katana is not a Chinese sword, is there proof that its really a katana? RagTag 21:24, 23 March 2010 (UTC)

Hy I jump in, i think it is not a Katana, it looks like a saber, but is definitly not a Katana.Doneve 21:33, 23 March 2010 (UTC)

it looks like a Saif or Tulwar, but those are Arabic weapons... so its probably some form of Dao like Damdao or Niuweidao or something. RagTag 21:41, 23 March 2010 (UTC)

your right, i think it is a adopted variant, but i can't find every reference in the sources.Doneve 22:01, 23 March 2010 (UTC)

I would suggest using the generic term "sword" rather than trying to use a specific name that not everyone might be familiar with. --Peregry 22:56, 23 March 2010 (UTC)

Field Manual: Capellan Confederation, pg. 61: "The order's crest is a stellar field with a shining dadao sword hanging overhead like a crescent moon." Whether or not Crescent Moon, specifically, is a katana or dadao, I cannot answer because I do not own the novel that is cited as the source of the information. --Scaletail 00:11, 24 March 2010 (UTC)

So we go with Sword right? Seems fair to me! RagTag 10:45, 24 March 2010 (UTC)

When I wrote the article I used the word "katana" because Crescent Moon is explicitly described as a "katana sword" in the only source describing the item, the novel Binding Force (pg. 24). Also, the Hiritsu guards in the scene are said to wield "katanas". Whether or not the sword depicted in the House Crest is meant to be Crescent Moon is pure speculation however; I am not aware of any notion anywhere to support this. Frabby 11:06, 24 March 2010 (UTC) (Also cleaned this page up somewhat.)

Well, if its a "canonical mistake", who are we to correct it? :D RagTag 11:08, 24 March 2010 (UTC)

I think problem stems with from the original FASA writting staff. If you read original fiction from first wave of source books, the many of the swords of House Liao were katanas instead of the dadaos. Later books, specially when Sun Tzu Liao came instituted his cultural revival brought in more "chinese" correct changes. I think it comes down to no one in old FASA staff was that familiar with chinese culture. -- Wrangler 11:38, 24 March 2010 (UTC)

I think you're right, Wrangler. I remember reading somewhere that part of Sun-Tzu's Xin Sheng in the 3060s was a reworking of the Capellan logo to look more like a dao and less like a katana. There seemed to have been this assumption that an Asian sword was a katana. Xin Sheng seemed to me like an in-game reason to fix that error. That said, Xin Sheng came after the events of Binding Force. --Scaletail 00:32, 25 March 2010 (UTC)

Aris Sung says something about that in Threads of Ambition, I think...RagTag 21:57, 25 March 2010 (UTC)

Actually, it was Binding Force, he Aris Sung stole the sword itself when he was teenager in order to convince the Warrior House to adopt him. I'd have to look at Threats of Ambition which maybe looking aback in his past history, but Binding Force has in better detail. -- Wrangler 23:33, 25 March 2010 (UTC)