Talk:ECM Suite

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(Wrong) Redirect from ECM[edit]

This page shouldn't be a redirect to the Guardian ECM Suite. There are other ECM Suites in the BattleTech universe (even if no one plays by the level 3 rules). --Xoid 03:44, 28 January 2007 (CST)

Concur. Remember, though, at this stage of BTW's development, a consensus of 1 registered editor is easily acquired. :P Feel free to make the change as you see it, so it doesn't just linger undone. --Revanche (admin) 09:23, 28 January 2007 (CST)

Space Combat?[edit]

I just put a link around "ECM" in a dropship essay and it came to this page. Perhaps a brief explanation of how ECM affects gameplay should be included (ground combat would also need a section if we go this route, I feel)? --Greyhind 19:10, 18 March 2010 (UTC)

Go for it. May I suggest MASC as a guide. --Scaletail 03:11, 19 March 2010 (UTC)

About the "ECM 3025" item[edit]

@ PerkinsC/Cameron: With all due respect, I disagree with your recent changes and think we need to mull this over. The reasons are as follows:

  • Neither FASA nor Catalyst (and probably not even FanPro) ever considered material canon that wasn't published in English. MechForce Germany was therefore never a source for "official" material. (This is even arguable for the MechForce North America, imho.) The MFG was just a fan organisation with a permission to operate by the "MechForce" moniker. Their publications can arguably be considered apocryphal.
  • I don't think it's accurate to say the EW Equipment is an "adaption" of the ECM 3025. Rather, I believe the Catalyst staff who created the EW Equipment item/rules probably weren't even aware of the ECM 3025. The EW Equipment is fully canonical and, by retcon, has always been what the RVN-1X had; conversely, the ECM 3025 canonically never existed. It was only an apocryphal attempt to fill the gap in the rules that was eventually properly filled by the EW Equipment, and for the purpose of this wiki the ECM 3025 is just a footnote on an apocryphal item/ruleset that has since been superseded by a different, canonical one.

Frabby 21:06, 12 January 2011 (UTC)

The New equipment, units, and Mechs that are being brought in the canon from the Apocrypha are a concerted effort on the part of the Catalyst team to glean all of the canon materiel that have names and not stats, or names and stats without presence in the core books, as well as at minimum, the english language Official materiel. what has been said about the BattleAxe/HammerHands makes this clear. It is definately a bit greyer with the other language MechForce publications, but with the FanPro GMBH having published the ECM 3025 in their German Lanuage variant of the Solaris VII rules, then i felt somewhat confident in my word choice for FanPro US/Catalyst gleaning data and coming up with a Canon variant of the rules. it is likely that who ever wrote the english version would have been cognizant of the german language variant. As i am not aware of what specificly the canon model states and what the german language FanPro model stated, then i did not feel comfortable with the word "reprinted". humm, but then again it as likely that the point of divergence was the tonnage, crits and description from the HLSB. I say rutabega... let someone familiar with both the new and the german Solaris weigh in. --Cameron 14:51, 13 January 2011 (UTC)

That being said, really should replace the "official" materiel above with "canon". after all, Mechforce and BattleTechnology are "official", heck even the video games are "official" and they were notorious with taking liberties and not giving even lip service--Cameron 14:51, 13 January 2011 (UTC)