Talk:Davion (WarShip)

Separate pages vs Variants

I guess my question is, is there enough difference between the Davion Blocks and any of the other (FWL Zec for example) to warrent separate pages as opposed to just covering the additions within the Variant section? Cyc 22:55, 21 October 2009 (UTC)

I pondered the same question for quite some time - I avoided these writing these entries for this very reason. I decided this decision was already made once before on BTW (see Lola).

Here is a rationale: the Lola III-class destroyer is actually the Block III Lola-class, the 2nd refit of the original Lola-class destroyer. Most people would not refer to separate blocks by the same name; in military parlance, the name Lola refers to a distinct class of vessels compared with the Block III Lola (or, shorter, Lola III-class), right? So I guess my question is, if players/in game personalities are referring to the Lola III as the Lola III, why are we forcing it into the same entry with the Lola-class? Of course, if consensus is against splitting the entries, then we can change it around--S.gage 05:23, 22 October 2009 (UTC)

The Lola III article exists separately for the same reason we had a Whirlwind article before the Davion, TRO3057R came out years after TRO2750 and the original TRO3057 so those existing article were written based on older information when there was no stats for the other name only ships which 57R delighted in expanding. I don't have a copy, but doesn't TRO3057R smoosh both the older Lolas and both Davions into a single entry too? Cyc 05:43, 22 October 2009 (UTC)

TRO 3057R has some grouped together, I'll give you the list here:

• Lola I & Lola II - pp.210-211 (both blocks pictured together)
• Lola III - pp. 140-141
• Davion I & Davion II - pp. 204-205
• Whirlwind (Davion Block Ia) - pp. 134-135

In other words, there appears to be no common thread.--S.gage 17:36, 22 October 2009 (UTC)

What about the Congress Class Frigate? It was Davion produced ship, fluff suggests that non-SL tech ship was one they used. -- Wrangler 19:21, 22 October 2009 (UTC)

I read it, it does talk about a downgraded Davion variant, but no details are given, meaning I would definitely include this as a variant - we just don't have enough details. I'll add the category, though.--S.gage 16:22, 23 October 2009 (UTC)

Lola I, II & III

OK, having read these entries now, I am less comfortable separating the Lola I, Lola II, and Lola III pages on BTW. These classes are very similar, much more closely related to one-another than the Davion classes. I am inclined to leave them separate - different blocks have different histories, roles, etc., and to be honest, there are so few WarShips in BT compared with BattleMechs, etc., I am less worried about the number of extra pages generated. However, if we want to separate pages, I really do think this separation is warranted for the Lolas.--S.gage 21:20, 23 October 2009 (UTC)