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Pintos?[edit]
I know this poster is putting many these articles with no references what so ever. The mentioning of 2 Pinto class Warships in service of the Free Worlds League raises question for in my mind. What possible sources includes (lost) RWR WarShips in FWL navy? Online Battle Corp story? I don't believe the Handbook: House Marik mentions anything like that. -- Wrangler 01:58, 16 November 2009 (UTC)
- Review of section where these events accured. Does not mention any type of WarShip which Captain-General Geralk Marik used. So this section will likely needs to be re-written unless a source can be found. -- Wrangler 02:18, 16 November 2009 (UTC)
Re-Write[edit]
After doing the bio of General Geralk Marik, i've found that House Steiner had majority of the details of the battle that mention in original wording of the article. However, it does not mention at all use of WarShips. I am planning to ask the writers or anyone on forums of Classic Battletech website if they've heard of any short-stories that may have been made more recently that could have included these details that unregister author included in article. -- Wrangler 20:50, 3 December 2009 (UTC)
Delete?[edit]
Is this article salvageable? The title is so generic as to be useless. I feel like this information belongs elsewhere, like in Geralk Marik. Should it be merged there? Is it even worth keeping this? --Scaletail 03:15, 4 December 2009 (UTC)
- Once I'm done with the re-write it will be worth it. This campaign prompt the entry of the first BattleMechs used in Battle. For the Very FIRST TIME. It is historical event. Like alot things, some of them didn't have names. I wrote the Geralk Marik article point view of Marik. Event was triggered by him, but he remember because the Lyrans remembered what he did to them and brought it up. BattleTech has a rich history, which many of the conflicts didn't have defining name. Personally I would have possibly used a title like Free worlds League incursion of 2455-2459 or Geralk's War. The name that has be applied maybe generic, but its good enough one if any. I don't like how article is written either. So it will be re-written. I want find out if there been a Battlecorp story may have come out that may have given new light to a old story that been found in least 4 source books. -- Wrangler 12:10, 4 December 2009 (UTC)
- So then I guess we're taking suggestions on a new title for this article. --Scaletail 23:44, 4 December 2009 (UTC)
- Not quite, i'm saying that title good enough unless something canon comes up. Its for all purposes a Un-named conflict. Thats generic title works for it. Do you have better suggestion. I'm just trying I can get some answers about other sources for the article. -- Wrangler 02:50, 5 December 2009 (UTC)
- I understand where you're coming from, but there have been a number of wars between the FWL & LC. This article could be for any of them. I would suggest "Battle of Loric", since that is where BattleMechs were first deployed in combat. Everything else is basically the run up to that battle. --Scaletail 03:24, 5 December 2009 (UTC)
- So you want me to do only Loric battle then? Only reason i put this way is because of Bella I & Alula Australis were part of the campaign that lead to Loric. I just didn't want seperate Geralk's actions in those two worlds since they were part of the overall campaign. Just the delaying action was spread out bit, 3 years fighting on Loric. -- Wrangler 04:16, 5 December 2009 (UTC)
- That's not what I said. I'm suggesting that we re-title this article "Battle of Loric", since that was really the key component of this campaign, which took place during the Age of War. It was where the first 'Mechs were deployed in combat and where Geralk Marik died. The fighting on the two other worlds is secondary, and could be treated as the run-up to the Battle of Loric. IF you don't like that idea because there was more than one battle, then how about "Geralk Marik's campaign"? --Scaletail 18:40, 5 December 2009 (UTC)
- I understand where you coming from now. I guess Geralk Marik's Campaign seem to be most telling on what the conflict stemps from or identifies it. Would Geralk Marik's Lyran Campaign be acceptable name change? Least says where it being done. -- Wrangler 19:37, 6 December 2009 (UTC)
- I'm agreeable to that. --Scaletail 22:41, 6 December 2009 (UTC)
- I understand where you coming from now. I guess Geralk Marik's Campaign seem to be most telling on what the conflict stemps from or identifies it. Would Geralk Marik's Lyran Campaign be acceptable name change? Least says where it being done. -- Wrangler 19:37, 6 December 2009 (UTC)
- That's not what I said. I'm suggesting that we re-title this article "Battle of Loric", since that was really the key component of this campaign, which took place during the Age of War. It was where the first 'Mechs were deployed in combat and where Geralk Marik died. The fighting on the two other worlds is secondary, and could be treated as the run-up to the Battle of Loric. IF you don't like that idea because there was more than one battle, then how about "Geralk Marik's campaign"? --Scaletail 18:40, 5 December 2009 (UTC)
- So you want me to do only Loric battle then? Only reason i put this way is because of Bella I & Alula Australis were part of the campaign that lead to Loric. I just didn't want seperate Geralk's actions in those two worlds since they were part of the overall campaign. Just the delaying action was spread out bit, 3 years fighting on Loric. -- Wrangler 04:16, 5 December 2009 (UTC)
- I understand where you're coming from, but there have been a number of wars between the FWL & LC. This article could be for any of them. I would suggest "Battle of Loric", since that is where BattleMechs were first deployed in combat. Everything else is basically the run up to that battle. --Scaletail 03:24, 5 December 2009 (UTC)
- Not quite, i'm saying that title good enough unless something canon comes up. Its for all purposes a Un-named conflict. Thats generic title works for it. Do you have better suggestion. I'm just trying I can get some answers about other sources for the article. -- Wrangler 02:50, 5 December 2009 (UTC)
- So then I guess we're taking suggestions on a new title for this article. --Scaletail 23:44, 4 December 2009 (UTC)
- Once I'm done with the re-write it will be worth it. This campaign prompt the entry of the first BattleMechs used in Battle. For the Very FIRST TIME. It is historical event. Like alot things, some of them didn't have names. I wrote the Geralk Marik article point view of Marik. Event was triggered by him, but he remember because the Lyrans remembered what he did to them and brought it up. BattleTech has a rich history, which many of the conflicts didn't have defining name. Personally I would have possibly used a title like Free worlds League incursion of 2455-2459 or Geralk's War. The name that has be applied maybe generic, but its good enough one if any. I don't like how article is written either. So it will be re-written. I want find out if there been a Battlecorp story may have come out that may have given new light to a old story that been found in least 4 source books. -- Wrangler 12:10, 4 December 2009 (UTC)