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=Archive=
  
==Great Start==
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*[[User_talk:Cache/Archive_2019|2014-2019]]
Greetings! I see you've gotten off to a great start. Keep up the good work, and if you have any questions, leave a message at [[User talk:BobTheZombie|my talk page]]. Thanks for helping out! -[[User:BobTheZombie|BobTheZombie]] ([[User talk:BobTheZombie|talk]]) 15:12, 22 October 2014 (PDT)
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*[[User talk:Cache/Archive 2021|2020-2021]]
  
==Award==
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=Current=
Hy Cache great to have contributing now on Sarna. Have this [[File:ImgImp.jpg|Image Import Award, 1st ribbon]] award from me, thanks a lot for new uploaded pics. und image summary template updates, cheers.--[[User:Doneve|Doneve]] ([[User talk:Doneve|talk]]) 13:25, 7 November 2014 (PST)
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==Broken Link Images==
:Technically, Image Import Awards need to be awarded by Admins, but given that I was coming here to award you with one for all your work providing updated images for various articles, it seems fitting that I endorse Doneve's. I appreciate the work you're doing, and i'd like to join Doneve in thanking you for your efforts.[[User:BrokenMnemonic|BrokenMnemonic]] ([[User talk:BrokenMnemonic|talk]]) 12:14, 8 November 2014 (PST)
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Hiya, you removed a number of broken (i.e., non-existant, redlink) image links from [[TCI Model Sets]] and [[BattleTech boxed set]], among others. Normally, I would agree with that but in these two cases the redlinks were placeholders for images that absolutely need to be found and uploaded eventually. For this reason, I'd like to revert your edits but wanted to to raise the issue with you here first. [[User:Frabby|Frabby]] ([[User talk:Frabby|talk]]) 13:03, 6 January 2022 (EST)
::Thank you both for the award/endorsement.  I'm happy to be putting my collection to further use. [[User:Cache|Cache]] ([[User talk:Cache|talk]]) 09:16, 9 November 2014 (PST)
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:Errors vs. requests. I thought about that after I'd removed them, so I put the articles in my queue to research. I may have some of those kits. I'll undo the edits myself later, if you don't beat me to it. Thanks for the note.--[[User:Cache|Cache]] ([[User talk:Cache|talk]]) 16:37, 6 January 2022 (EST)
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::Cheers mate! Would be great if you can fill in the blanks. [[User:Frabby|Frabby]] ([[User talk:Frabby|talk]]) 16:49, 7 January 2022 (EST)
  
==Welcome!==
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== RE: References ==
Greetings, and a somewhat belated welcome from me, too! Let me echo BobTheZombie, you've gotten off to a great start indeed. I noted you've been working on the [[Unseen]] article, which really badly needs a workover that I've conssitently postponed doing myself for many years. So I'm very glad that you're doing this, especially as you seem to be knowledgeable on the subject. Have an award: [[File:AP.jpg|All Purpose Award, 1st ribbon]]
 
  
Sidenote regarding the ''Leopard'': Like the ''Galleon'' tank it was never expressly declared unseen, but it is clearly taken from the same third-party anime sources as the unseen BattleMechs. [[User:Frabby|Frabby]] ([[User talk:Frabby|talk]]) 02:18, 8 November 2014 (PST)
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Thank you! I was just about to send you a message asking where to look up how to properly format those, the way I was doing it was clogging up the references at the bottom of the page ridiculously. Appreciate your help! [[User:Mage|Mage]] ([[User talk:Mage|talk]]) 17:33, 10 January 2022 (EST)
:Thank you for the award.  I've put off updating my own website with any of the recent events regarding the Unseen because that is going to be a good bit of work.  Updating articles here is so much easier.  I'm still confused about some like the ''Thunderbolt'' and ''Locust'', which have appeared in recent products but are still on the [http://bg.battletech.com/forums/miniatures/the-unseen-a-reseen-iic-explanation-and-a-list-(updated-december-2011)/| Unseen list at bg.battletech.com].  I would ask about them over there but I'm not sure I want to poke the hornet's nest.
 
  
:In regards to the ''Galleon'' tank, it was declared Unseen, just not immediately.  I guess the initial focus was on 'Mechs.  The ''Leopard'', ''Corsair'', and ''Sparrowhawk'' are inspired by Crusher Joe designs but not direct copies like the Galleon, ''Samurai'', and ''Locust''. [[User:Cache|Cache]] ([[User talk:Cache|talk]]) 09:14, 9 November 2014 (PST)
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==Marguerita Bourkova==
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Hey! It's hard to tell from the book, I legitimately had to research each of the artists listed and hers, out of all of them, is the style most like that of the particular portraits I've uploaded. [[User:Mage|Mage]] ([[User talk:Mage|talk]]) 17:08, 6 February 2022 (EST)
  
==Images==
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==Direction Appreciated Award==
Hi Cache, be advised that it is not necessary to upload additional images of units unless these images are somehow relevant content. We might get into legal hot waters otherwise, as the Fair Use rationale may not apply if an image is uploaded for no particular reason. See also [[Policy:Images]]. [[User:Frabby|Frabby]] ([[User talk:Frabby|talk]]) 01:26, 16 November 2014 (PST)
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For helping me figure out the Princess DropShip thing. [[File:DA.jpg|Direction Appreciated Award, 1st ribbon]] [[User:Talvin|Talvin]] ([[User talk:Talvin|talk]]) 20:33, 8 February 2022 (EST)
:My thought when uploading the extra images was to show other artist's depiction of the units, since there tends to be major differences.  Is that relevant enough or should I stick to uploading only pictures of variants that are not already present? [[User:Cache|Cache]] ([[User talk:Cache|talk]]) 09:01, 16 November 2014 (PST)
 
::I'm not an expert with the policies, but the different artists' renditions can vary quite a bit, so I'd say that it'd be reason enough to add them. -[[User:BobTheZombie|BobTheZombie]] ([[User talk:BobTheZombie|talk]]) 09:32, 16 November 2014 (PST)
 
:::If the renditions from different artists are different then I'd say that's fair enough. Nothing to see, move on. :) [[User:Frabby|Frabby]] ([[User talk:Frabby|talk]]) 13:53, 16 November 2014 (PST)
 
  
==Rapier Redirect==
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==Images-as-references test case==
Hi Cache, I made ''Rapier (Naval Vessel Support Vehicle)‎'' redirect because that technically alternate name of that naval support vehicle. if feel it should be deleted. I can understand.  I felt it necessary evil Incase there other units named Rapier are introduced. -- [[User:Wrangler|Wrangler]] ([[User talk:Wrangler|talk]]) 13:16, 5 December 2014 (PST)
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Discord go boom, major outage.  When you have a chance, discussing practical concerns at [[Talk:Bull Shark]].
:It doesn't bother me either way, really.  I suggested deletion because I didn't see (Naval Vessel Support Vehicle) on the Rapier-class page in the book and there are no longer links to it.  Searching for "rapier" will send you straight to the ASF page. I put the 'other uses' link at the top rather than creating a disambiguation page because the naval vessel is such an obscure unit. [[User:Cache|Cache]] ([[User talk:Cache|talk]]) 15:43, 5 December 2014 (PST)
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==Images by Artists/Unknown==
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Okay, Cache, got the message. I'm still not used to the new template used for image references. I will be sure to leave it blank next time. -- [[User:Wrangler|Wrangler]] ([[User talk:Wrangler|talk]]) 17:25, 26 March 2022 (EDT)
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==Filename breaking things?==
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[[:File:LAAF + JF 3059.png]] and [[:File:LAAF + JF 3067.png]]  Are the filenames the reason the images don't show up for me?--[[User:Talvin|Talvin]] ([[User talk:Talvin|talk]]) 21:35, 10 April 2022 (EDT)
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:That appears to have been the problem. Fixed.--[[User:Cache|Cache]] ([[User talk:Cache|talk]]) 00:06, 11 April 2022 (EDT)
  
== Brian's Cache ==
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==Citations on 'See also' sections==
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Just saw the Royal Divisions page today. Given that links in that section generally go to other articles and pages in the wiki, isn't requesting citations on those links a bit of overkill? (I did add citations on that note which seemed to concern you the most, since the Talon article itself is rather vague on things like the issue of Royal and Regular Army usage. I might do some work on that one tomorrow, too tired right now.) [[User:Echo Mirage|Echo Mirage]] ([[User talk:Echo Mirage|talk]]) 12:26, 21 May 2022 (EDT)
  
Thanks for linking to this on your user profile here. I've never built any minis, but have commissioned some that I just attempted to do some repairs on. Now, after checking out your instructionals, I see how putty can be used to hold something into place while it's curing, which was very frustrating to me when I attempted it. You've convinced me that maybe I 'can' build my own minis, so I just started stocking up on some of the tools you pages recommend. Thanks! --[[User:Revanche|Revanche]] <sup>([[User_talk:Revanche|talk]]|[[Special:Contributions/Revanche|contribs]])</sup> 18:13, 24 August 2015 (PDT)
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:No, it is not overkill. For example, when I follow the link to the MAD-1R and MAD-2R, I see nothing in the ''Marauder'' article that states those variants were exclusive to the Royals. When I follow-up with the references on the ''Marauder'' article, I still see nothing that states those variants were exclusive to the Royals. I did not bother wasting my limited time tracking down the references on the others. 1) The user should not have to run down links to find references. They should be provided within the article. 2) You need to vet your information. Judging by the lack of references, you are making assumptions based on memory. That is bad for the reputation of this wiki. Put down hard facts only--WITH SPECIFIC REFERENCES. NO ASSUMPTIONS.--[[User:Cache|Cache]] ([[User talk:Cache|talk]]) 17:58, 21 May 2022 (EDT)
:Happy to hear that the info was helpful! --[[User:Cache|Cache]] ([[User talk:Cache|talk]]) 20:58, 24 August 2015 (PDT)
 
  
== Images ==
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::Ahem.
Hi Cache, thanks so much to uploade missing images and add some missing thinks to the image summary template, have your second [[File:ImgImp 1bol.jpg|Image Import Award, 2nd ribbon]] award, cheers.--[[User:Doneve|Doneve]] ([[User talk:Doneve|talk]]) 15:47, 16 July 2016 (PDT)
 
  
== Image Uploads ==
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::''• MAD-1R The earliest version of the Marauder, used by the Royal brigades of the SLDF, the 1R utilized CASE to protect the autocannon ammunition and carried eleven tons of Ferro-Fibrous armor. It was introduced in 2612.[18] BV (2.0) = 1,420[19][20]''
  
As one that is keen to see the pages use more images I appreciate the time you spend to upload more pictures. I'd like to nominate you for another award [[File:ImgImp 2bol.jpg|Image Import Award, 3rd ribbon]] Keep up the good work! [[User:Dark Jaguar|Dark Jaguar]] ([[User talk:Dark Jaguar|talk]]) 05:39, 5 March 2017 (EST)
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::''• MAD-2R This upgrade of the 1R eventually replaced it in 2760. The PPCs were upgraded to ER PPCs, necessitating a similar upgrade of the heat sinks to double heat sinks.[18] BV (2.0) = 1,630[21][22]'' [[Marauder#Variants|Link]]
  
== Leviathan III Image ==
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::You were saying? [[User:Echo Mirage|Echo Mirage]] ([[User talk:Echo Mirage|talk]]) 14:42, 23 May 2022 (EDT)
This may be nitpicky, but still: The image used in the ''[[Leviathan III]]'' article is the one from TRO: 3067, from a time when the ''Leviathan III'' didn't even exist yet. The ship depicted is a ''Leviathan'' block I heavy transport. It's even arguable if that image accurately depicts the ''Leviathan II'' class which were modified ''Leviathan'' Heavy Transports. I don't have XTRO:R3 so I cannot check if or what image that volume shows; but unless they actually reused that TRO:3067 image again the image cannot be used in the ''Leviathan III'' article. [[User:Frabby|Frabby]] ([[User talk:Frabby|talk]]) 04:24, 23 February 2018 (EST)
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:::I was saying you are making assumptions. Drawing connections where none are referenced. How does "used by" equate to "exclusive to"? You are also ignoring my statement that users should not have to chase references across multiple articles. They should be provided in the first article.--[[User:Cache|Cache]] ([[User talk:Cache|talk]]) 17:40, 23 May 2022 (EDT)
:XTRO:R3 recycled the image for the Leviathan III from the TRO:3067 Leviathan (Heavy Transport) entry. [[User:BrokenMnemonic|BrokenMnemonic]] ([[User talk:BrokenMnemonic|talk]]) 04:36, 23 February 2018 (EST)
 
::I only changed the redirects when I moved the image. The images that previously appeared on those pages have not changed. I have no problem if anyone wants to alter the content of the pages.--[[User:Cache|Cache]] ([[User talk:Cache|talk]]) 13:53, 23 February 2018 (EST)
 
  
::(Typed the previous reply from my phone and it doesn't seem totally clear.) I uploaded a better image of the Leviathan, and in the process, changed the filename. When I change filenames, I click on "what links here" for the old filename and edit all pages listed to reflect the new filename. So, the images that appear on those pages now are what were there before--I just changed the filenames. I'm not overly attached to any of the Leviathan entries but we can take the discussion to those talk pages if you'd like.--[[User:Cache|Cache]] ([[User talk:Cache|talk]]) 17:11, 23 February 2018 (EST)
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== Image Categories (Foreign Language) ==
  
==Pages with broken references==
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Hello Cache. As some context, I have been working on foreign editions/products recently and have encountered several novel cover images and product images in these other languages.  Some of the approaches to image management differ between the languages. For instance, the German product images are often tagged with the product image subcategory based on product type (like [[:Category: Novel Cover Images]]) and one of the German product categories ([[:Category: German Editions]] or [[:Category: German Language Products]]), while product images for other languages were simply tagged with the product image subcategory.  So I am working to uniformize the approach across the different languages. 
[[File:AA.jpg|Assistance Appreciated Award, 1st ribbon]] 'nuff said. :) [[User:Frabby|Frabby]] ([[User talk:Frabby|talk]]) 04:47, 30 March 2018 (EDT)
 
:Actually, now that you've almost single-handedly killed the to-do list, have this: [[File:TireCont.png|Tireless Contributor Award, 1st ribbon]] [[User:Frabby|Frabby]] ([[User talk:Frabby|talk]]) 08:02, 8 July 2018 (EDT)
 
  
== Spambots ==
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The approach that seems apt (at least to me) is tagging a foreign product image with an product image subcategory (in addition to and independent of what image categories it posesses).  See [[:Category:Spanish Product Images]] and [[:Category:Hungarian Product Images]] for examples of this model.  I plan to extend this in parallel to [[German Product Images]] and [[French Product Images]].  Given your work with images and knowledge of the image categories, do you see any obvious problems with this approach?  --[[User:Dude RB|Dude RB]] ([[User talk:Dude RB|talk]]) 22:46, 30 May 2022 (EDT)
  
Thank you much for your prompt response to the spambots this afternoon. Please accept this Vandal Cop award: [[File:VC.jpg|Vandal Cop Award, 1st ribbon]].--[[User:Revanche|Revanche]] <sup>([[User_talk:Revanche|talk]]|[[Special:Contributions/Revanche|contribs]])</sup> 15:29, 18 May 2018 (EDT)
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:Just a quick note to let you know that I'm not ignoring your question. I hope to be able to sit down and answer you some time this weekend. --[[User:Cache|Cache]] ([[User talk:Cache|talk]]) 14:25, 2 June 2022 (EDT)
  
== Mercenary units in Mercenary's Handbook ==
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::Thanks for the note.  No worries.  I understand that things are busy.  I got a helpful second opinion from [[User:Frabby]] in [[Category talk:German Editions]].  So I have begun the transition.  If there is anything that 'breaks' the structure of product image categories/subcategories, please feel free to give a holler.  --[[User:Dude RB|Dude RB]] ([[User talk:Dude RB|talk]]) 20:03, 2 June 2022 (EDT)
  
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== Broken image links ==
  
I was reviewing the 3025 Mercenaries Handbook and found some units I'm not seeing in the wiki. Do we have any page with all mercenary logos to quickly look on them?
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Oops. Thanks for catching those. [[User:Madness Divine|Madness Divine]] ([[User talk:Madness Divine|talk]]) 11:25, 19 August 2022 (EDT)
Examples are:
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:You're welcome.--[[User:Cache|Cache]] ([[User talk:Cache|talk]]) 17:16, 19 August 2022 (EDT)
- 17th Recon Battalion (it is not Camacho's Caballeros, logo is at least different)
 
- 12th Striker Regiment
 
- 3rd Recon Company
 
  
And the rest of the unit's logos there are from existing mercenary units.
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== Ashley Pollard Portrait ==
  
I can create the articles, no problem, but the gallery could be interesting.--[[User:Pserratv|Pserratv]] ([[User talk:Pserratv|talk]]) 06:15, 20 February 2019 (EST)
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Thank you for finding that updated portrait of [[Ashley Watkins]]/Pollard.  The image quality makes her page look much nicer than the one I pulled from her blog!--[[User:Beemer|Beemer]] ([[User talk:Beemer|talk]]) 21:35, 17 September 2022 (EDT)
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:No problem. I think the higher quality image is a decade old but it'll do.--[[User:Cache|Cache]] ([[User talk:Cache|talk]]) 23:49, 17 September 2022 (EDT)
  
:To my knowledge there is no gallery of unit logos here. It is an interesting idea and I believe it would be a useful resource. Not just for mercenaries, but all factions. I'm not sure how to implement it, but it's worth discussing. --[[User:Cache|Cache]] ([[User talk:Cache|talk]]) 16:45, 20 February 2019 (EST)
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== Hadur LRM variant ==
  
::There is a gallery of unit logos here: [[:Category:Unit Logo Gallery]]. It's not completely comprehensive, because originally a lot of unit logos were uploaded without any category assignment at all. Originally it was a bucket gallery, but given the sheer number of units I added sub-categories breaking it down by service, and when I get time I've been going through the uncategorised files page to try and capture all of the unit logos and get them assigned to categories. The Mercenary Unit Logo category is probably the largest, simply because of the sheer number of mercenary units... [[User:BrokenMnemonic|BrokenMnemonic]] ([[User talk:BrokenMnemonic|talk]]) 04:41, 21 February 2019 (EST)
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Thanks for the update, I presently don't have the 'Technical Readout: 3150' book. [[User:Echo Mirage|Echo Mirage]] ([[User talk:Echo Mirage|talk]]) 14:57, 14 January 2023 (EST)
:::Many thanks. Just learned something interesting. I'll save this in my "favorite" list.--[[User:Pserratv|Pserratv]] ([[User talk:Pserratv|talk]]) 05:40, 21 February 2019 (EST)
 
  
:::Thanks for the heads-up! I will make an effort to ensure any logo pics I work with (or view) are categorized. --[[User:Cache|Cache]] ([[User talk:Cache|talk]]) 19:38, 21 February 2019 (EST)
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:I'm curious now... where did you get the info that you wrote into the article?--[[User:Cache|Cache]] ([[User talk:Cache|talk]]) 18:10, 14 January 2023 (EST)
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::Got the info on the LRM variant's introduction and initial employment during the Battle of New Oslo from the Operation NOYAN article. The description of the LRM variant in action indicated that the LRM was equipped with a full scale TAG system as well as a LRM launcher. Based on that as well as the space and tonnage available to the baseline ''Hadur'', I assumed that the new variant was a minimum change design that in line with general Clan doctrine (and associated game designer tendencies!) maintained as much ranged firepower as possible while preserving or improving the tonnage available for the primary ammo, in this case the LRM missiles. (To make the most of the available primary ammo capacity I also believed that it was likely that it would have a LRM-5 or possibly LRM-6 launcher.) I was therefore quite surprised when you dug up the detailed specs on the new variant showing that, contrary to the information on its deployment in the field, it is actually equipped with a Light TAG system (the choice of a double LRM-15 system was another surprise, especially given the current Battletech construction rules). As it currently stands, the LRM variant is wildly at variance with the lore; it literally can't carry out the role and tactics that have been described for it. For one thing it would not be able to stick with its standard Hadur partner, but would have to move well ahead to have any hope of spotting targets at the best range of the Arrow IV equipped Hadur, while still being unable to use its own LRMs to anything like full advantage, targeting computer notwithstanding (not to mention that it will probably run out of ammo far more quickly that its partner [only a couple of reloads, if I haven't totally fouled up my tonnage calculations gamewise]). The reactive armor is yet another strange design choice. I'm beginning to wonder if there hasn't been some seriously crossed wires at Catalyst Game Labs here.
  
== Infobox for units at 200px ==
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::I could be wrong, but isn't this new variant unique in putting a Light TAG system on a LRM platform? While light TAG systems aren't entirely unheard of on Clan OmniVehicles and combat vehicles (and the occasional OmniMech or BattleMech), they are usually associated with alternate configurations intended for elemental support or forward artillery spotting, or vehicles specialised for same (including some ProtoMechs lest I forget). And the missile systems where equipped are almost invariably Streak SRMs. Otherwise Clan vehicles equipped with Light TAGs are generally designed for second line units (such as Clan Watch [MP] and ''Solahma'' formations) intended for infantry support or hunting down enemy infantry in rear areas. [[User:Echo Mirage|Echo Mirage]] ([[User talk:Echo Mirage|talk]]) 18:03, 18 January 2023 (EST)
  
Hi Cache, do we have to consider this 200px the expected value for all infobox units? I've seen you have been changing some mercenaries units on this.--[[User:Pserratv|Pserratv]] ([[User talk:Pserratv|talk]]) 07:08, 21 March 2019 (EDT)
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:::One problem with writing wiki articles based solely on information in other wiki articles is that you have no way of verifying the information. That is a very important step. Without verification we get speculation or outright incorrect information, which is a bad thing. Speculation is to be avoided.--[[User:Cache|Cache]] ([[User talk:Cache|talk]]) 20:59, 18 January 2023 (EST)
:I don't remember changing any to 200px. I have been downsizing to 150px because the majority of unit articles I have seen already display them at 150. Since other logo images were only 150px when uploaded, I made the assumption 150px was the standard. If there is a policy or standard I missed, I can change them.--[[User:Cache|Cache]] ([[User talk:Cache|talk]]) 08:46, 21 March 2019 (EDT)
 
  
==Your library==
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== Handling Component Images used in Image Composites ==
Hey Cache, I have just been reading your profile page. I knew you owned the Lostech Cache (I would never of known about any of those designs without you, so thank you), but the other thing I noticed is that your "BattleTech library is extensive", Do you have the original house books in dead tree format?--[[User:Dmon|Dmon]] ([[User talk:Dmon|talk]]) 17:43, 23 March 2019 (EDT)
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:Yes I do. --[[User:Cache|Cache]] ([[User talk:Cache|talk]]) 17:46, 23 March 2019 (EDT)
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Cache, I have the following question. When creating combinations of images that then will replace the original component images within articles, I presume that we would wish to keep the original component images around even though the latter are not directly used in an article (for the purposes of preserving source info and history).  Is there a recommended way to handle such? See [[:File:Catapult Token.jpg]] for an example.  --[[User:Dude RB|Dude RB]] ([[User talk:Dude RB|talk]]) 23:06, 31 January 2023 (EST)
::Sweet. I would like to ask a personal favor then. As you probably know the PDF house books did not include the family trees, and here in the UK, actual physical BattleTech books are damn rare. So would you be willing to do a little bit of work on the family tree articles at some point?--[[User:Dmon|Dmon]] ([[User talk:Dmon|talk]]) 17:55, 23 March 2019 (EDT)
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:::I'm not sure about working on the articles. What exactly needs to be done? At the very least, I can scan those pages of the books.--[[User:Cache|Cache]] ([[User talk:Cache|talk]]) 18:12, 23 March 2019 (EDT)
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:My first thought is to upload the composite image as a replacement for one of the original images. (The "front" image in the case of the ''Catapult''.) Then rename the file, mark the unused ("rear") image for deletion, and replace the individual images with the composite in all affected articles. This preserves the history of at least one image without leaving orphans lying around. Odds are both images were uploaded by the same user so there isn't much of anything lost. --[[User:Cache|Cache]] ([[User talk:Cache|talk]]) 20:52, 1 February 2023 (EST)
::::I am not sure what needs to be done in all honesty, possibly nothing. The main thing I want is somebody to check them for accuracy. The original trees where written by Sgage way back in 2011, and the most I have ever been able to do is modify based on text from the books or update as the timeline goes on. In short, it is an annoyance that has bothered me for the better part of a decade. If you would be willing to scan then I don't even know how to repay you but I would be incredibly greatful--[[User:Dmon|Dmon]] ([[User talk:Dmon|talk]]) 18:29, 23 March 2019 (EDT)
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:::::I can check them for accuracy for as far as the old trees go, when I get a chance.--[[User:Cache|Cache]] ([[User talk:Cache|talk]]) 19:53, 23 March 2019 (EDT)
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::Thanks for the note. I think I will do this with one slight modification. I will upload the rear image into the front image first and then upload the composite image into the front image (then rename and relink). Then the original rear image will also be archived within the history of the final image.  --[[User:Dude RB|Dude RB]] ([[User talk:Dude RB|talk]]) 19:26, 2 February 2023 (EST)
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==Thanks==
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Just wanted to express appreciation for our collaboration and your timely assistance with a number of edits. [[File:AA 1bol.jpg|Assistance Appreciated Award, 2nd ribbon]] --[[User:Csdavis715|Csdavis715]] ([[User talk:Csdavis715|talk]]) 20:26, 15 October 2023 (EDT)
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== Award ==
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Hey Cache,
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I just wanted to express my appreciation for your recent efforts helping out around the wiki in some of the problem areas.
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[[File:SubAdd.jpg|Substantial Addition Award, 1st ribbon]], I have placed your first Substantial addition award on your board.
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Thank you.
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--[[User:Dmon|Dmon]] ([[User talk:Dmon|talk]]) 08:16, 29 December 2023 (EST)
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==Viper Origin Note==
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Thank you. The criticism was very productive. [[User:HussarZwei|HussarZwei]] ([[User talk:HussarZwei|talk]]) 01:08, 8 January 2024 (EST)

Latest revision as of 02:08, 8 January 2024

Archive[edit]

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Broken Link Images[edit]

Hiya, you removed a number of broken (i.e., non-existant, redlink) image links from TCI Model Sets and BattleTech boxed set, among others. Normally, I would agree with that but in these two cases the redlinks were placeholders for images that absolutely need to be found and uploaded eventually. For this reason, I'd like to revert your edits but wanted to to raise the issue with you here first. Frabby (talk) 13:03, 6 January 2022 (EST)

Errors vs. requests. I thought about that after I'd removed them, so I put the articles in my queue to research. I may have some of those kits. I'll undo the edits myself later, if you don't beat me to it. Thanks for the note.--Cache (talk) 16:37, 6 January 2022 (EST)
Cheers mate! Would be great if you can fill in the blanks. Frabby (talk) 16:49, 7 January 2022 (EST)

RE: References[edit]

Thank you! I was just about to send you a message asking where to look up how to properly format those, the way I was doing it was clogging up the references at the bottom of the page ridiculously. Appreciate your help! Mage (talk) 17:33, 10 January 2022 (EST)

Marguerita Bourkova[edit]

Hey! It's hard to tell from the book, I legitimately had to research each of the artists listed and hers, out of all of them, is the style most like that of the particular portraits I've uploaded. Mage (talk) 17:08, 6 February 2022 (EST)

Direction Appreciated Award[edit]

For helping me figure out the Princess DropShip thing. Direction Appreciated Award, 1st ribbon Talvin (talk) 20:33, 8 February 2022 (EST)

Images-as-references test case[edit]

Discord go boom, major outage. When you have a chance, discussing practical concerns at Talk:Bull Shark.

Images by Artists/Unknown[edit]

Okay, Cache, got the message. I'm still not used to the new template used for image references. I will be sure to leave it blank next time. -- Wrangler (talk) 17:25, 26 March 2022 (EDT)

Filename breaking things?[edit]

File:LAAF + JF 3059.png and File:LAAF + JF 3067.png Are the filenames the reason the images don't show up for me?--Talvin (talk) 21:35, 10 April 2022 (EDT)

That appears to have been the problem. Fixed.--Cache (talk) 00:06, 11 April 2022 (EDT)

Citations on 'See also' sections[edit]

Just saw the Royal Divisions page today. Given that links in that section generally go to other articles and pages in the wiki, isn't requesting citations on those links a bit of overkill? (I did add citations on that note which seemed to concern you the most, since the Talon article itself is rather vague on things like the issue of Royal and Regular Army usage. I might do some work on that one tomorrow, too tired right now.) Echo Mirage (talk) 12:26, 21 May 2022 (EDT)

No, it is not overkill. For example, when I follow the link to the MAD-1R and MAD-2R, I see nothing in the Marauder article that states those variants were exclusive to the Royals. When I follow-up with the references on the Marauder article, I still see nothing that states those variants were exclusive to the Royals. I did not bother wasting my limited time tracking down the references on the others. 1) The user should not have to run down links to find references. They should be provided within the article. 2) You need to vet your information. Judging by the lack of references, you are making assumptions based on memory. That is bad for the reputation of this wiki. Put down hard facts only--WITH SPECIFIC REFERENCES. NO ASSUMPTIONS.--Cache (talk) 17:58, 21 May 2022 (EDT)
Ahem.
• MAD-1R The earliest version of the Marauder, used by the Royal brigades of the SLDF, the 1R utilized CASE to protect the autocannon ammunition and carried eleven tons of Ferro-Fibrous armor. It was introduced in 2612.[18] BV (2.0) = 1,420[19][20]
• MAD-2R This upgrade of the 1R eventually replaced it in 2760. The PPCs were upgraded to ER PPCs, necessitating a similar upgrade of the heat sinks to double heat sinks.[18] BV (2.0) = 1,630[21][22] Link
You were saying? Echo Mirage (talk) 14:42, 23 May 2022 (EDT)
I was saying you are making assumptions. Drawing connections where none are referenced. How does "used by" equate to "exclusive to"? You are also ignoring my statement that users should not have to chase references across multiple articles. They should be provided in the first article.--Cache (talk) 17:40, 23 May 2022 (EDT)

Image Categories (Foreign Language)[edit]

Hello Cache. As some context, I have been working on foreign editions/products recently and have encountered several novel cover images and product images in these other languages. Some of the approaches to image management differ between the languages. For instance, the German product images are often tagged with the product image subcategory based on product type (like Category: Novel Cover Images) and one of the German product categories (Category: German Editions or Category: German Language Products), while product images for other languages were simply tagged with the product image subcategory. So I am working to uniformize the approach across the different languages.

The approach that seems apt (at least to me) is tagging a foreign product image with an product image subcategory (in addition to and independent of what image categories it posesses). See Category:Spanish Product Images and Category:Hungarian Product Images for examples of this model. I plan to extend this in parallel to German Product Images and French Product Images. Given your work with images and knowledge of the image categories, do you see any obvious problems with this approach? --Dude RB (talk) 22:46, 30 May 2022 (EDT)

Just a quick note to let you know that I'm not ignoring your question. I hope to be able to sit down and answer you some time this weekend. --Cache (talk) 14:25, 2 June 2022 (EDT)
Thanks for the note. No worries. I understand that things are busy. I got a helpful second opinion from User:Frabby in Category talk:German Editions. So I have begun the transition. If there is anything that 'breaks' the structure of product image categories/subcategories, please feel free to give a holler. --Dude RB (talk) 20:03, 2 June 2022 (EDT)

Broken image links[edit]

Oops. Thanks for catching those. Madness Divine (talk) 11:25, 19 August 2022 (EDT)

You're welcome.--Cache (talk) 17:16, 19 August 2022 (EDT)

Ashley Pollard Portrait[edit]

Thank you for finding that updated portrait of Ashley Watkins/Pollard. The image quality makes her page look much nicer than the one I pulled from her blog!--Beemer (talk) 21:35, 17 September 2022 (EDT)

No problem. I think the higher quality image is a decade old but it'll do.--Cache (talk) 23:49, 17 September 2022 (EDT)

Hadur LRM variant[edit]

Thanks for the update, I presently don't have the 'Technical Readout: 3150' book. Echo Mirage (talk) 14:57, 14 January 2023 (EST)

I'm curious now... where did you get the info that you wrote into the article?--Cache (talk) 18:10, 14 January 2023 (EST)
Got the info on the LRM variant's introduction and initial employment during the Battle of New Oslo from the Operation NOYAN article. The description of the LRM variant in action indicated that the LRM was equipped with a full scale TAG system as well as a LRM launcher. Based on that as well as the space and tonnage available to the baseline Hadur, I assumed that the new variant was a minimum change design that in line with general Clan doctrine (and associated game designer tendencies!) maintained as much ranged firepower as possible while preserving or improving the tonnage available for the primary ammo, in this case the LRM missiles. (To make the most of the available primary ammo capacity I also believed that it was likely that it would have a LRM-5 or possibly LRM-6 launcher.) I was therefore quite surprised when you dug up the detailed specs on the new variant showing that, contrary to the information on its deployment in the field, it is actually equipped with a Light TAG system (the choice of a double LRM-15 system was another surprise, especially given the current Battletech construction rules). As it currently stands, the LRM variant is wildly at variance with the lore; it literally can't carry out the role and tactics that have been described for it. For one thing it would not be able to stick with its standard Hadur partner, but would have to move well ahead to have any hope of spotting targets at the best range of the Arrow IV equipped Hadur, while still being unable to use its own LRMs to anything like full advantage, targeting computer notwithstanding (not to mention that it will probably run out of ammo far more quickly that its partner [only a couple of reloads, if I haven't totally fouled up my tonnage calculations gamewise]). The reactive armor is yet another strange design choice. I'm beginning to wonder if there hasn't been some seriously crossed wires at Catalyst Game Labs here.
I could be wrong, but isn't this new variant unique in putting a Light TAG system on a LRM platform? While light TAG systems aren't entirely unheard of on Clan OmniVehicles and combat vehicles (and the occasional OmniMech or BattleMech), they are usually associated with alternate configurations intended for elemental support or forward artillery spotting, or vehicles specialised for same (including some ProtoMechs lest I forget). And the missile systems where equipped are almost invariably Streak SRMs. Otherwise Clan vehicles equipped with Light TAGs are generally designed for second line units (such as Clan Watch [MP] and Solahma formations) intended for infantry support or hunting down enemy infantry in rear areas. Echo Mirage (talk) 18:03, 18 January 2023 (EST)
One problem with writing wiki articles based solely on information in other wiki articles is that you have no way of verifying the information. That is a very important step. Without verification we get speculation or outright incorrect information, which is a bad thing. Speculation is to be avoided.--Cache (talk) 20:59, 18 January 2023 (EST)

Handling Component Images used in Image Composites[edit]

Cache, I have the following question. When creating combinations of images that then will replace the original component images within articles, I presume that we would wish to keep the original component images around even though the latter are not directly used in an article (for the purposes of preserving source info and history). Is there a recommended way to handle such? See File:Catapult Token.jpg for an example. --Dude RB (talk) 23:06, 31 January 2023 (EST)

My first thought is to upload the composite image as a replacement for one of the original images. (The "front" image in the case of the Catapult.) Then rename the file, mark the unused ("rear") image for deletion, and replace the individual images with the composite in all affected articles. This preserves the history of at least one image without leaving orphans lying around. Odds are both images were uploaded by the same user so there isn't much of anything lost. --Cache (talk) 20:52, 1 February 2023 (EST)
Thanks for the note. I think I will do this with one slight modification. I will upload the rear image into the front image first and then upload the composite image into the front image (then rename and relink). Then the original rear image will also be archived within the history of the final image. --Dude RB (talk) 19:26, 2 February 2023 (EST)

Thanks[edit]

Just wanted to express appreciation for our collaboration and your timely assistance with a number of edits. Assistance Appreciated Award, 2nd ribbon --Csdavis715 (talk) 20:26, 15 October 2023 (EDT)

Award[edit]

Hey Cache,

I just wanted to express my appreciation for your recent efforts helping out around the wiki in some of the problem areas. Substantial Addition Award, 1st ribbon, I have placed your first Substantial addition award on your board.

Thank you. --Dmon (talk) 08:16, 29 December 2023 (EST)

Viper Origin Note[edit]

Thank you. The criticism was very productive. HussarZwei (talk) 01:08, 8 January 2024 (EST)