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::That turned out to be a rather long winded response, but I hope it helped. {{emoticon|:)}} --<span style="font-family:Courier">[[User:Ebakunin|Ebakunin]]</span> <sup>([[User talk:Ebakunin|talk]]|[[Special:Contributions/Ebakunin|contribs]])</sup> 04:52, 7 July 2009 (UTC)
 
::That turned out to be a rather long winded response, but I hope it helped. {{emoticon|:)}} --<span style="font-family:Courier">[[User:Ebakunin|Ebakunin]]</span> <sup>([[User talk:Ebakunin|talk]]|[[Special:Contributions/Ebakunin|contribs]])</sup> 04:52, 7 July 2009 (UTC)
  
::NO! That absolutely helped. It also assuaged my guilt over not using the code, since I knew I could use it incorrectly. i see that is not the case, but that I'm free to use regular dashes. Thanks, Ebakunin. I appreciate it. --[[User:Revanche|Revanche]] <sup>([[User_talk:Revanche|talk]]|[[Special:Contributions/Revanche|contribs]])</sup> 20:33, 7 July 2009 (UTC)
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:::NO! That absolutely helped. It also assuaged my guilt over not using the code, since I knew I could use it incorrectly. I see that is not the case, but that I'm free to use regular dashes. Thanks, Ebakunin. I appreciate it. --[[User:Revanche|Revanche]] <sup>([[User_talk:Revanche|talk]]|[[Special:Contributions/Revanche|contribs]])</sup> 20:33, 7 July 2009 (UTC)
  
 
== Timeline tags ==
 
== Timeline tags ==
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== Template:Cite ==
 
== Template:Cite ==
 
 
Ebakunin, do you think you might be able to get the cite tag to work properly? --[[User:Revanche|Revanche]] <sup>([[User_talk:Revanche|talk]]|[[Special:Contributions/Revanche|contribs]])</sup> 19:25, 11 July 2009 (UTC)
 
Ebakunin, do you think you might be able to get the cite tag to work properly? --[[User:Revanche|Revanche]] <sup>([[User_talk:Revanche|talk]]|[[Special:Contributions/Revanche|contribs]])</sup> 19:25, 11 July 2009 (UTC)
  
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== blanking pages ==
 
== blanking pages ==
 
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I'm going to keep blanking pages. I can't be banned because I'm not logged on. {{unsigned|68.81.95.145|20:12, 16 July 2009 (UTC)}}
I'm going to keep blanking pages. I can't be banned because I'm not logged on.
 
  
 
:Hi. Would you please be more specific as to what's going on. I logged out and then edited [[Kell Hound Pilot (CCG - Limited)]] without any issues. I'm unsure how to recreate the problem you encountered. Thanks. --<span style="font-family=Courier">[[User:Ebakunin|Ebakunin]]</span> <sup>([[User talk:Ebakunin|talk]]|[[Special:Contributions/Ebakunin|contribs]])</sup> 20:36, 16 July 2009 (UTC)
 
:Hi. Would you please be more specific as to what's going on. I logged out and then edited [[Kell Hound Pilot (CCG - Limited)]] without any issues. I'm unsure how to recreate the problem you encountered. Thanks. --<span style="font-family=Courier">[[User:Ebakunin|Ebakunin]]</span> <sup>([[User talk:Ebakunin|talk]]|[[Special:Contributions/Ebakunin|contribs]])</sup> 20:36, 16 July 2009 (UTC)
  
 
== Watchout ==
 
== Watchout ==
 
 
I'm catching up with you on editcounts. Today i gained 3 to your 1 addition. Only 84 more to go (which equates to about 4,200 more, by that counter's function). Be afraid, be very afraid. :P--[[User:Revanche|Revanche]] <sup>([[User_talk:Revanche|talk]]|[[Special:Contributions/Revanche|contribs]])</sup> 03:49, 17 July 2009 (UTC)
 
I'm catching up with you on editcounts. Today i gained 3 to your 1 addition. Only 84 more to go (which equates to about 4,200 more, by that counter's function). Be afraid, be very afraid. :P--[[User:Revanche|Revanche]] <sup>([[User_talk:Revanche|talk]]|[[Special:Contributions/Revanche|contribs]])</sup> 03:49, 17 July 2009 (UTC)
  
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== 25 Years of Art & Fiction ==
 
== 25 Years of Art & Fiction ==
 
 
You put a specific date on the moratorium. Does that mean the print edition is for sale already?--[[User:Revanche|Revanche]] <sup>([[User_talk:Revanche|talk]]|[[Special:Contributions/Revanche|contribs]])</sup> 23:37, 17 July 2009 (UTC)
 
You put a specific date on the moratorium. Does that mean the print edition is for sale already?--[[User:Revanche|Revanche]] <sup>([[User_talk:Revanche|talk]]|[[Special:Contributions/Revanche|contribs]])</sup> 23:37, 17 July 2009 (UTC)
  
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== -moz-border-radius-topleft ==
 
== -moz-border-radius-topleft ==
 
 
One reason I always shied away from that property is because of its non-universal support. Be careful that in freeing the web from the tyranny of IE's non-compliance with standards that we don't…yada, yada. You get the drift.
 
One reason I always shied away from that property is because of its non-universal support. Be careful that in freeing the web from the tyranny of IE's non-compliance with standards that we don't…yada, yada. You get the drift.
  
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== Color ==
 
== Color ==
 
 
Quick question: what code do I use to change the color of certain text? I thought <nowiki><color=brown></color></nowiki> would have worked, but it does not. --[[User:Revanche|Revanche]] <sup>([[User_talk:Revanche|talk]]|[[Special:Contributions/Revanche|contribs]])</sup> 05:08, 19 July 2009 (UTC)
 
Quick question: what code do I use to change the color of certain text? I thought <nowiki><color=brown></color></nowiki> would have worked, but it does not. --[[User:Revanche|Revanche]] <sup>([[User_talk:Revanche|talk]]|[[Special:Contributions/Revanche|contribs]])</sup> 05:08, 19 July 2009 (UTC)
  
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::Aaah-kay. Thanks. It apparently doesn't work within the {{tl|quote}} template, but it does work outside it. Thanks, Ebakunin. --[[User:Revanche|Revanche]] <sup>([[User_talk:Revanche|talk]]|[[Special:Contributions/Revanche|contribs]])</sup> 05:25, 19 July 2009 (UTC)
 
::Aaah-kay. Thanks. It apparently doesn't work within the {{tl|quote}} template, but it does work outside it. Thanks, Ebakunin. --[[User:Revanche|Revanche]] <sup>([[User_talk:Revanche|talk]]|[[Special:Contributions/Revanche|contribs]])</sup> 05:25, 19 July 2009 (UTC)
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Ebakunin, requesting a kludge be shoehorned into [[MediaWiki:Common.js/edit.js]]: can you ensure that no "{" is next to another "{"? As it is, the templates this script allows you to insert are actually transcluded. While I theorise that there might be other side effects, MediaWiki:Common.js/edit.jscurrently appears in the categories that those templates bestow.
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While we're on the topic, could you make it so you can insert stuff in the summary field too? (Might be more work than it's worth though…) --[[User:Xoid|Xoid]] 07:10, 25 July 2009 (UTC)

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Liberator

I took the liberty (no pun intended) of changing your last edit to italics, which is what I presume you had intended (you used double quotes, which are not read by mediawiki the same way as two single quotes). If I presumed wrong, please let me know. --Revanche (talk|contribs) 11:44, 18 June 2009 (PDT)

I thought the BT convention is to put named ships in quotes, while ship classes are put in italics (much like 'Mechs). Am I wrong here? Thanks. --Ebakunin 11:55, 18 June 2009 (PDT)
Let me say that I'm uncertain. If there is a policy or stated convention here, please point me in that direction. However, based on my own interest in things naval (I'm a naval officer), I lean towards italicizing ship names. Scaletail and I generally lean towards the adoption of Wikipedia policies on areas where we haven't yet adopted a similar policy (especially in regards to references and copyediting). I don't have the time just now to find & check their policy, but this article tells me they lean towards italicizing. Quotes just seem to be an odd way of highlighting a ship's name. --Revanche (talk|contribs) 12:02, 18 June 2009 (PDT)
You're absolutely right. I was basing quotes vs. italics on CBL's conventions, which I was mistaken about. I took a look at Jihad Secrets: The Blake Documents where the Invincible WarShip is in italics. My bad. Won't happen again. Thanks for pointing out the problem --Ebakunin 12:17, 18 June 2009 (PDT) Tongue.gif
No, not a problem. You've actually given me another reason to write a Manual of Style for the wiki. This is a good one. --Revanche (talk|contribs) 13:05, 18 June 2009 (PDT)

Wiki experience

Hey, Ebakunin. It's clear to me that MediaWiki doesn't scare you. What kind of experience do you have with it? --Revanche (talk|contribs) 12:08, 3 July 2009 (UTC)

Dash or Code

Xoid once tried to explain this to me, but it went over my head. Why do you prefer to use the code –, instead of a dash? --Revanche (talk|contribs) 03:41, 7 July 2009 (UTC)

And why didn't nowiki not work here? --Revanche (talk|contribs) 03:41, 7 July 2009 (UTC)
Usage:
There's three type of dash entities (letter-like symbols), each slightly longer than the previous:
- (standard hyphen)
– (&ndash;)
— (&mdash;)
In general, the short dash is used for hyphenated words, the long dash ("mdash") for connecting sentence fragments, and the "ndash" for everything else. For example:
  • (standard hyphen) "Teaching a pre-teen to drive is a bad idea."
  • (&ndash;) George Washington, February 22, 1732 – December 14, 1799
  • (&mdash;) "Sarah, no matter what he said—and I know he said a lot—I promise you they were all lies."
Browser interpretation:
Here's where it gets complicated. A "character" is basically a number, letter, or entity the can fit in one letter space. For example, "K" and "Æ" are characters since they take up one space, but "AE" is not. Since there are a lot of characters (©, ¥, ñ, etc.) and a limited number of keys on the keyboard, each character has an HTML character entity reference so the browser knows what to display. It has to be something weird so no one will accidentally type it and get confused, which is why &ndash; gives you – and &mdash; gives you —.
All the entities I've mentioned are perfectly valid letters/symbols that just don't show up on an American English keyboard. Therefore they are not HTML tags like <div> and <nowiki> won't work on them.
Because they are entities, you can also cut-and-paste them just like any other letter. They're not readily available on my keyboard, though, which is why I type them out the long way. If BTW had a symbol insert list like Wikipedia offers (the one that lets you insert ©, ¥, ñ, etc.) I would use it instead.
That turned out to be a rather long winded response, but I hope it helped. Smiley.gif --Ebakunin (talk|contribs) 04:52, 7 July 2009 (UTC)
NO! That absolutely helped. It also assuaged my guilt over not using the code, since I knew I could use it incorrectly. I see that is not the case, but that I'm free to use regular dashes. Thanks, Ebakunin. I appreciate it. --Revanche (talk|contribs) 20:33, 7 July 2009 (UTC)

Timeline tags

Having seen the awesome job you did on the yearlist, here's an idea I had: On the Starwars wiki, there is one or more era symbol(s) in each article (where appropriate), denoting during which eras a certain vehicle was used or a certain event occurred. I liked this concept, but totally lack the skills to implement something similar on BTW. You, on the other hand, seem quite skilled in this respect... Frabby 21:11, 7 July 2009 (UTC)

I know what you're referring to, but unfortunately the era symbols use JavaScript for correct positioning. Since I don't have access to BTW's JavaScript I can't do the work. Sorry. --Ebakunin 21:14, 7 July 2009 (UTC)
Is it a one time code addition or something that would need constant access? --Revanche (talk|contribs) 22:08, 7 July 2009 (UTC)
To be honest, it would require admin status, as I would need to modify the system messages page. --Ebakunin 22:38, 7 July 2009 (UTC)

Wannabe_kate code

Ebakunin, do you feel the editcounter code on this site can be used here, if installed? --Revanche (talk|contribs) 01:06, 8 July 2009 (UTC)

Bump. I was hoping you could see if this is something we could have installed on our server, rather than go thru Interiot's. The tool was very informative (IMO) and I'd love to be able to use it again. Thanks. --Revanche (talk|contribs) 04:11, 11 July 2009 (UTC)
Would you first go here and let me know which editcounter you prefer. Afterward, I'll need to talk with Nic about adding the tool to the site. He will need to do the dirty work. --Ebakunin 05:34, 11 July 2009 (UTC)
Technically, its this one, but he offers this code from this page. I'm not even certain the code to run the editcounter is available, but maybe what I provided you only links into the (possibly defunct) master server. --Revanche (talk|contribs) 06:25, 11 July 2009 (UTC)

Ebakunin, please find an appropriate place to put this on your userpage:
BTW Admin.jpg
--Revanche (talk|contribs) 05:03, 9 July 2009 (UTC)

Congratulations, and Welcome to the Admin team! Frabby 10:16, 10 July 2009 (UTC)

Edittools

I'm constantly forgetting how to use the code and then having to look up how I used it in the past. How would I make use of your editool? --Revanche (talk|contribs) 18:39, 9 July 2009 (UTC)

What code? --Ebakunin 18:40, 9 July 2009 (UTC)
MediaWiki:Edittools. Maybe I've mis-understood the intent of this page. --Revanche (talk|contribs) 20:21, 9 July 2009 (UTC)
Edit any page and look under the text box. You'll see the results. --Ebakunin 20:39, 9 July 2009 (UTC) Smiley.gif
So, how do you like your steaks? Certain cut? Expensive? Baked Alaska with that? Seriously...thank you!--Revanche (talk|contribs) 20:44, 9 July 2009 (UTC)

Template:Cite

Ebakunin, do you think you might be able to get the cite tag to work properly? --Revanche (talk|contribs) 19:25, 11 July 2009 (UTC)

I'm not sure what you're referring to. --Ebakunin 23:42, 11 July 2009 (UTC)
Belay my last. I figured out what I wanted to get done. --Revanche (talk|contribs) 00:47, 12 July 2009 (UTC)

blanking pages

I'm going to keep blanking pages. I can't be banned because I'm not logged on. — The preceding unsigned comment was posted by 68.81.95.145 (talkcontribs) 20:12, 16 July 2009 (UTC).

Hi. Would you please be more specific as to what's going on. I logged out and then edited Kell Hound Pilot (CCG - Limited) without any issues. I'm unsure how to recreate the problem you encountered. Thanks. --Ebakunin (talk|contribs) 20:36, 16 July 2009 (UTC)

Watchout

I'm catching up with you on editcounts. Today i gained 3 to your 1 addition. Only 84 more to go (which equates to about 4,200 more, by that counter's function). Be afraid, be very afraid. :P--Revanche (talk|contribs) 03:49, 17 July 2009 (UTC)

Ebakunin sig

Re: {{Ebakunin sig}}, I've corrected the timestamps and removed the four calls to it. I guess this means that it is no longer required? (Seems as if you decided against using it.) --Xoid 13:33, 17 July 2009 (UTC)

Yeah, I didn't realize you could customize your signature using wikicode. I need to double back and replicate the template results before deleting the template, otherwise all the signatures will disappear. --Ebakunin (talk|contribs) 17:48, 17 July 2009 (UTC)
Actually, that's what I did, but it seems you already figured that out. :D
It sort of surprised me really, most people who use vanity templates store them in the User namespace. e.g., {{User:Ebakunin/sig}}. I used to be a template sigger myself but I changed my ways after seeing a wiki go down in flames when it was vandalised. That, and I finally realised that each signature template tends to be a real strain on the server. --Xoid 02:15, 18 July 2009 (UTC)
BTW, nice to finally meet you Smiley.gif --Ebakunin (talk|contribs) 17:48, 17 July 2009 (UTC)
And it's nice to be back. Ah, nostalgia. :P --Xoid 02:15, 18 July 2009 (UTC)

25 Years of Art & Fiction

You put a specific date on the moratorium. Does that mean the print edition is for sale already?--Revanche (talk|contribs) 23:37, 17 July 2009 (UTC)

Nope, my mistake. Fixing it now. --Ebakunin (talk|contribs) 23:42, 17 July 2009 (UTC)
Roger, thanks. My hopes are dashed so easily.--Revanche (talk|contribs) 23:46, 17 July 2009 (UTC)

-moz-border-radius-topleft

One reason I always shied away from that property is because of its non-universal support. Be careful that in freeing the web from the tyranny of IE's non-compliance with standards that we don't…yada, yada. You get the drift.

That reminds me, would I be imposing upon you if I asked for the horizontal ellipsis to be added to that JavaScript-based monstrosity of yours down there? *points at the "Insert a character:" thingamajig at the bottom of his screen*--Xoid 06:44, 18 July 2009 (UTC)

The only reason the I use the -moz-border-radius attribute is because it degrades gracefully to all other browsers. Don't worry – I never use any nonstandard tags (with the exception of filter:alpha(opacity=XX)). I can't think of any other nonstandard attributes I use either other than "-moz". --Ebakunin (talk|contribs) 16:38, 18 July 2009 (UTC)

Color

Quick question: what code do I use to change the color of certain text? I thought <color=brown></color> would have worked, but it does not. --Revanche (talk|contribs) 05:08, 19 July 2009 (UTC)

Unless you want me to create a template, you should use <span>, one of the few HTML tags allowed in the wiki. Try this: <span style="color:blue">example</span>. It will display example. You can apply other font attributes too. --Ebakunin (talk|contribs) 05:15, 19 July 2009 (UTC)
Aaah-kay. Thanks. It apparently doesn't work within the {{quote}} template, but it does work outside it. Thanks, Ebakunin. --Revanche (talk|contribs) 05:25, 19 July 2009 (UTC)

Transcluded

Ebakunin, requesting a kludge be shoehorned into MediaWiki:Common.js/edit.js: can you ensure that no "{" is next to another "{"? As it is, the templates this script allows you to insert are actually transcluded. While I theorise that there might be other side effects, MediaWiki:Common.js/edit.jscurrently appears in the categories that those templates bestow.

While we're on the topic, could you make it so you can insert stuff in the summary field too? (Might be more work than it's worth though…) --Xoid 07:10, 25 July 2009 (UTC)